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Bluem 11-18-07 08:23 PM

titanium apex selas from rotor master???
 
anyone here ever used/heard of someone using these apex seals???

http://www.rotormaster.com.au/subPage.asp?cid=12

RETed 11-18-07 10:03 PM

Oh gawd, here we go again...

You have a price on these things?
If it isn't closer to US$1,000, I'd be suspect of there is any Ti in there...
I'd get a materials analysis on these things if I had the money and time to burn.


-Ted

Bluem 11-18-07 10:16 PM

Me 2, a friend just e-mailed me the link, i had never heard of them until today.

Black91n/a 11-18-07 10:30 PM

I think the topic of Ti seals has been brought up before and it was thought to be a bad idea. Maybe it was due to thermal expansion, I don't know. Ceramic seals are apparently very good.

Snack 11-18-07 10:47 PM

ceramic seals make pop ;)

CrackHeadMel 11-19-07 06:47 AM

There once was a machinest on this forum (maby he still is) who made his own TI seals and ran them. he said after a short period of time the engine started to just loose compression on all faces, felt like an old motor. he opened it up and said it looked like a 200k motor. seals's galled the housings to the point they were trash

Bluem 11-19-07 11:04 AM

i remember reading those threads, i e-mailed them yesterday for price and more info.

BLUE TII 11-19-07 05:33 PM

Hmm, is the Nichol/Titanium they describe Nickel Titanium (Nitinol)- as in the memory metal?

In the next paragraph they are talking about it as a ceramic instead of a metal alloy. ???

Nickel Titanium can also be used to braze, bond or coat ceramics and so could be used as a matrix or mixture I guess?

Who would buy that based on that description- well, they don't even list a price :P

We want more info please!

Bluem 11-19-07 06:54 PM

I noticed that 2.

still waiting for them to E-mail me back

13BT_Starlet 11-19-07 07:40 PM

Here is a few website which I was looking to try but I ended up going with
the superseals this are the black ones from kenny mercado .

http://www.performancetestedseals.com/index.html
http://members.shaw.ca/nrsrotorsports/index.html
http://www.southcoastrotary.com.au/index.htm

Bluem 11-19-07 09:56 PM

performance tested seals are good, that is what the major-league runs.

t-von 11-20-07 12:27 AM

You can clearly see the machining grooves in those seals. To me it looks like they are re-selling the Ra seals.

RoTaRyBoYz 11-20-07 01:00 AM

RotorMaster (Joe) was the guy that bought Abel's old FD, they also have a few sick 20b's that are running consistant 7.1's so they definately know what they're doing... I'm tring to get Po, the owner of the full chassis FD to come on here and comment more on these seals...
video of Po's car http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pQcMl...eature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RomCI...eature=related

michaelt 11-20-07 06:08 PM

i have used them.

I will be using PTS in my new engine.

13BT_Starlet 11-20-07 07:26 PM

I was thinking of using the pts but ended up with the superseals there are alot of cars in puerto rico using them with boost well above 40psi

Viking War Hammer 11-20-07 07:33 PM


Originally Posted by 13BT_Starlet (Post 7534558)
I was thinking of using the pts but ended up with the superseals there are alot of cars in puerto rico using them with boost well above 40psi

Check your private messages. I just sent you one.

13BT_Starlet 11-20-07 07:38 PM


Originally Posted by Viking War Hammer (Post 7534591)
Check your private messages. I just sent you one.

havent gotten it yet !

Viking War Hammer 11-20-07 07:55 PM


Originally Posted by 13BT_Starlet (Post 7534614)
havent gotten it yet !

Weird, try now ? Sent you another one.

13BT_Starlet 11-20-07 08:23 PM


Originally Posted by Viking War Hammer (Post 7534688)
Weird, try now ? Sent you another one.

Got it PM'd back !

karism 11-27-07 05:34 AM


Originally Posted by CrackHeadMel (Post 7528114)
There once was a machinest on this forum (maby he still is) who made his own TI seals and ran them. he said after a short period of time the engine started to just loose compression on all faces, felt like an old motor. he opened it up and said it looked like a 200k motor. seals's galled the housings to the point they were trash

Yip,that be my friend.We did it some years ago,and the results were as you stated.

The gauling properties of the Titanium is juts to high.Ate the hard chrome right of the rotorhousings in a matter off minutes (if i remember properly the engine didnt even run for a full 30min)

+1 for Ceramic.
- 11ty billion for titanium.

Karis

ZAN_TUNING 11-27-07 01:37 PM

pts for the win :)


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