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Resource 02-21-03 12:00 PM


Originally posted by LTProject
how about your HP's number x 2, or lambos x 1.5. Resource would you please go play on the stl forum SHANES waiting for you.
Maybe one day I'll be able to step up to the level you St.Louis Street Racers are on.:beer: :fruit:

LTProject 02-21-03 12:08 PM

your street car runs on what fuel?

Resource 02-21-03 12:12 PM


Originally posted by LTProject
your street car runs on what fuel?
Gasoline.

LTProject 02-21-03 12:13 PM

there a place we can talk on here one on one

Liquid Anarchy 02-22-03 07:09 PM

Like I said before, those are some OLD pics. The car runs, I've seen it run (idle not drive). I'll ask Charlie on the 2nd (our local meet) if he has any/if I can take some more pictures.

3RotorRocket 05-23-04 05:40 PM


Originally posted by KNONFS
I don't think that's a rotary engine :(
Sure it is.What other engine block is that small other then a 13B?

3RotorRocket 05-23-04 05:41 PM


Originally posted by 4RotorRocket
Sure it is.What other engine block is just as small other then a 13B?

KevinK2 05-23-04 10:22 PM


Originally posted by trex72
thats my buddy charlies 2nd gen, hes out of springfield MO
its a 3rd gen ROTARY engine though.
760ish hp at 26 psi, 8.5 possible ets

26 hot psi, no apparent IC, I would think only methanol could be used.

Liquid Anarchy 05-23-04 11:53 PM

*ding*

Sponge Bob Square Pants 05-24-04 01:10 AM

Gasoline + No intercooler + 26 psi.... what?!?!?

BOOSTD 7 05-24-04 09:32 PM

Hey, I kinda know Charlie ... friend of Gregg's, who always spoke very highly of Charlie's skillz. I'd love to see that car in person.

What's a number where I can get in touch with Charlie? Maybe I'll put it in the RX Tuner :)

Liquid Anarchy 05-24-04 11:45 PM

PM'ed you

mazdarick 05-25-04 12:16 PM


Originally posted by KNONFS
I don't think thaLt's a rotary engine :(
Looks like a rotary to me too!!

Liquid Anarchy 05-25-04 04:50 PM

quit doubting, it's a rotary. I've touched it...and messed myself.

Wargasm 05-25-04 09:29 PM

That guy will be MUCH closer to 90 hp rather than 900 hp. I give him a gold star for trying something unusual... but I have a feeling his results will be pretty poor. I'll say... 250 rwhp max :)

Brian

Liquid Anarchy 05-26-04 01:07 AM

hahaha, it's been dyno'd at something like 6-700... I might ask him about it if I run across him in the near future.

it's supposed to make it's 1st 1/4-mile trip sometime this season

rotarygod 05-26-04 11:33 AM

I find it so funny that some are saying it doesn't look like a rotary. Yes it does. It doesn't even remotely resemble anything other than a rotary. Others are saying it can never hit very high boost with pump gas. Where'd the pump gas assumption come from? Methanol doesn't need an intercooler and this doesn't look like a street car to me. Rotaries can get 600-700 hp from forced induction without methanol so why can't his on methanol? It should be able to. That's the problem with this forum. Too many people are constantly crying bs about things they haven't ever seen based on their own assumptions and limited knowledge of the subject. Superchargers are better than many people here give them credit for. Whether or not a turbo is better is irrelevant. It's also funny how people criticize the install in the pictures for not being complete and then stating that it must not run. I've taken many pictures of projects in various states of completion. To state it must not work because it isn't complete in the pictures is pretty ignorant. Give it a rest guys. Grant William's RX-7 in Australia ran high 8's on a streetport, and a Weber carb in a nonintercooled draw through style setup. This car has potential.

KNONFS 05-26-04 11:43 AM


Originally posted by rotarygod
I find it so funny that some are saying it doesn't look like a rotary. Yes it does. It doesn't even remotely resemble anything other than a rotary. Others are saying it can never hit very high boost with pump gas. Where'd the pump gas assumption come from? Methanol doesn't need an intercooler and this doesn't look like a street car to me. Rotaries can get 600-700 hp from forced induction without methanol so why can't his on methanol? It should be able to. That's the problem with this forum. Too many people are constantly crying bs about things they haven't ever seen based on their own assumptions and limited knowledge of the subject. Superchargers are better than many people here give them credit for. Whether or not a turbo is better is irrelevant. It's also funny how people criticize the install in the pictures for not being complete and then stating that it must not run. I've taken many pictures of projects in various states of completion. To state it must not work because it isn't complete in the pictures is pretty ignorant. Give it a rest guys. Grant William's RX-7 in Australia ran high 8's on a streetport, and a Weber carb in a nonintercooled draw through style setup. This car has potential.
What *I* really find funny, is that it has been said a million time before that it is a rotary, actually it was said A YEAR AGO!

Why does somebody have to bring this thread from the dead, just to POINT OUT something that has been pointed out more than twice already?.....A YEAR AGO!

BTW - Everything is posible, Rafelito was once the fastest rotary in the world with a 7.7 by using a weeber + turbo + NOS combination; however there are better ways of doing things; like EFI, from 7.7 rafaelito went straight to 7.4 :o:

80-CU.IN.T 05-26-04 03:42 PM


Originally posted by rotarygod
I find it so funny that some are saying it doesn't look like a rotary. Yes it does. It doesn't even remotely resemble anything other than a rotary. Others are saying it can never hit very high boost with pump gas. Where'd the pump gas assumption come from? Methanol doesn't need an intercooler and this doesn't look like a street car to me. Rotaries can get 600-700 hp from forced induction without methanol so why can't his on methanol? It should be able to. That's the problem with this forum. Too many people are constantly crying bs about things they haven't ever seen based on their own assumptions and limited knowledge of the subject. Superchargers are better than many people here give them credit for. Whether or not a turbo is better is irrelevant. It's also funny how people criticize the install in the pictures for not being complete and then stating that it must not run. I've taken many pictures of projects in various states of completion. To state it must not work because it isn't complete in the pictures is pretty ignorant. Give it a rest guys. Grant William's RX-7 in Australia ran high 8's on a streetport, and a Weber carb in a nonintercooled draw through style setup. This car has potential.
Couldn't have said it better myself :wink:

c2t88rx7 05-28-04 01:21 AM

dannng. a post started a year ago... well the reason is simply efficiency. and oh yeah... that Turbonetics ceramic ball bearing T76 sounds really cool when it comes at full boost!!!

now 05-28-04 10:02 AM

if all thats holding that motor is the front cover and he
does get it to make 900 hp i would guess that the front
cover will not be covering the front for long.
matt

Liquid Anarchy 05-29-04 07:05 AM


Originally posted by now
if all thats holding that motor is the front cover and he
does get it to make 900 hp i would guess that the front
cover will not be covering the front for long.
matt

...it's not...

peejay 05-29-04 09:26 AM


Originally posted by rxtasy3
I haven't noticed any difference in the front covers between 12a and 13b.
Depends on which 13B.

4-port 13Bs have the same front cover as 12As.

GSL-SE engines have a different front cover, since the OMP is different and has a different mounting flange.

And then of course the S4 / S5 / FD front covers are all different...

rotarygod 05-29-04 04:30 PM


Originally posted by KNONFS

Why does somebody have to bring this thread from the dead, just to POINT OUT something that has been pointed out more than twice already?.....A YEAR AGO!


Since you directly quoted me I assume this response is aimed at me. I wasn't the person who dug up this thread so this was a misplaced reply.

KNONFS 05-30-04 08:33 AM


Originally posted by rotarygod
Since you directly quoted me I assume this response is aimed at me. I wasn't the person who dug up this thread so this was a misplaced reply.
Well,
You said...


Originally posted by rotarygod
I find it so funny that some are saying it doesn't look like a rotary. Yes it does.

Again, it was pointed out a whole year ago

:p:


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