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2Lucky2tha7 08-25-07 11:14 PM

New tension bolts on the market???
 
So I was on ebay looking for a set of series 5 tension bolts and I came upon these. Does anyone know anything about these or this seller? They aren't the studs and nuts that are currently available, but rather wider tension bolts alltogether...

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/13B-M...em#description

AnthonyNYC 08-27-07 12:42 PM


Originally Posted by 2Lucky2tha7 (Post 7272172)
So I was on ebay looking for a set of series 5 tension bolts and I came upon these. Does anyone know anything about these or this seller? They aren't the studs and nuts that are currently available, but rather wider tension bolts alltogether...

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/13B-M...em#description

The seller is Pettit Racing in Florida. Very reputable. Give them a call.

Anthony

RETed 08-28-07 12:15 AM

I wonder...

I've never had a problem with stock tension bolts "failing"...
I don't question if their 10mm bolts are stronger, but are they necessary?

I also question the part about torquing the engine more.
You really should not be going that much higher than stock specs.
29 lb-ft?
I torque them to 30 lb-ft myself.
I've seen when you start to torque them to 35+ lb-ft, the rotating assembly starts to seize...

When engine fails, it's usually due to the block "twisting".
The engine do not usually fail trying to blow itself apart.


-Ted

crispeed 08-28-07 12:29 AM


Originally Posted by RETed (Post 7278567)
I wonder...

I've seen when you start to torque them to 35+ lb-ft, the rotating assembly starts to seize...
-Ted

How's that?

RICE RACING 08-28-07 12:46 AM

Omfg

crispeed 08-28-07 12:58 AM

Sometimes it's better to stay quiet than remove all doubt.

slo 08-28-07 01:16 AM

So what is implied in the ebay add (but not stated) is the S5 and before motors used 7 and 8mm tension bolts and s6 and up used 10MM.

Is this the case?

RETed 08-28-07 11:53 AM


Originally Posted by crispeed (Post 7278598)
How's that?

Gradually increase torque in 5 lb-ft increments over 30.
At 35 lb-ft, you can feel a little bit more drag.
At 40 lb-ft, it took signficant more force to rotate everything by hand.

Or are you talking about something else?


-Ted

Boostmaniac 08-28-07 03:07 PM

In on page 1.


I've always wanted to say that.

crispeed 08-28-07 03:10 PM

The plot thickens!

rotarygod 08-29-07 12:45 PM

If you torque them to 50 ft lbs, the rotors and housings will completely collapse themselves into oblivion and all you'll have left is 3 irons. ;)

crispeed 08-29-07 12:52 PM


Originally Posted by rotarygod (Post 7283472)
If you torque them to 50 ft lbs, the rotors and housings will completely collapse themselves into oblivion and all you'll have left is 3 irons. ;)

You just couldn't resist! :lol:

RETed 08-30-07 01:41 AM

The sun shines on a dog's ass every once and a while doesn't it?

I guess you can't always post a useful reply all the time, eh...


-Ted

crispeed 08-30-07 05:36 AM

Ok the fun begins. :)

'Useful' like 'beauty' is in the eyes of the beholder. :lol:

TonyD89 08-30-07 05:04 PM


Originally Posted by slo (Post 7278698)
So what is implied in the ebay add (but not stated) is the S5 and before motors used 7 and 8mm tension bolts and s6 and up used 10MM.

Is this the case?

I would like to know also.:)

2Lucky2tha7 08-30-07 08:57 PM

Well, I finally got a reply and he mentioned that they are "basically" s6 tension bolts because they are apparently the widest, which made me wonder if the series 6 were wider or better than the ribbed series 5. I can't currently remember if the s5 and s6 looked the same or not.

RotaryResurrection 08-31-07 03:33 AM

All 89-95 stock rods were the same, the wider ribbed versions. The 88 and prior were all skinny and non ribbed.

I dont see that you could go more than a couple of mm oversize versus the stock 89+ style, as the holes in the rotorhousings and irons do not line up perfectly all the way through the block and there is not too much slack in them. That is, unless you wanted to mock up the housings and ream them out to roughly matching sizes.


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