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Silver93T 09-23-02 07:58 PM

anyone running octane booster?
 
I recently started using some Turbo 108 octane booster. I'm not relying on the stuff, as I still only buy 93 or 94 octane gas, but figured it would offer bit more of a safety margin. It costs $5 and some change for a can at Pep Boys. One can is enough to treat 44 gallons of gas, so Its more than enough for 2 fill ups. Also, I'm running 16 psi at the most on pump gas. What do you guys think?

rxrotary2_7 09-24-02 10:07 AM

http://www.vtr.org/maintain/gasoline-octane.html

use xylene instead. it actualy will raise your octane. octane booster bought at pepboys is BS.
xylene is commonly used as a paint stripper. it can be had for about $7.00 for a gallon. do a google on it (xylene) or toluene. ;)

Street King 09-24-02 07:36 PM

Re: anyone running octane booster?
 

Originally posted by Silver93TT
I recently started using some Turbo 108 octane booster. I'm not relying on the stuff, as I still only buy 93 or 94 octane gas, but figured it would offer bit more of a safety margin. It costs $5 and some change for a can at Pep Boys. One can is enough to treat 44 gallons of gas, so Its more than enough for 2 fill ups. Also, I'm running 16 psi at the most on pump gas. What do you guys think?
I do when I tend to drive the car hard. I'am sure it doesn't raise it but a few points but it can save your ass.

rxrotary2_7 09-26-02 12:03 AM

if you are talking about pepboys booster. i doubt if it will save your ass or even your motor. ;)

Silver93T 09-26-02 12:46 AM

What affects does the xylene have on the rest of the fuel system and motor? Anything bad?

Toy 09-26-02 10:20 AM


Originally posted by Silver93TT
What affects does the xylene have on the rest of the fuel system and motor? Anything bad?
i tried xylene a couple of weeks ago...dumped a gallon in after filling up with 10 gallons of 94. Xylene i think is 117 octane so it brought me up a point or so. so far no bad effects that i know of...everything seems normal.

Gearhead 09-26-02 10:56 AM

Does it eat rubber and plastic? I know guys used to dump acetone years ago, but they had to do certain stuff to their carbs to keep them together.

Silver93T 09-26-02 11:41 AM

It seams like it will eat paint. I don't know about rubber and plastic. By accident I spilled a little down the side of the car as I was pouring it in and it didn't look like it went to good with the paint. It made a streak that I could feel when I ran my hand over it. I immidiatley wiped it off and then hit it with some 3m fine cut compound. Luckily it all came out. I think it just attacked the zaino on my paint.

dingleberry 09-27-02 02:14 AM

hey what ever happened to that 104 octane booster that came in a red bottle, that was the shite. I was shooting MAD flames, bumper caught on fire too, but it
was easy to put out hehe

Tec 09-28-02 10:51 PM

I've run Toluene alot! It's cheaper to buy 100 octain avation gas or some 104 VP, I'm a painting contractor so toluene is $3.75 a gallon! where i can get 100 octain for $2.20 and not have to mix 93 into the car as well.

As far as it being safe? i've had no problems in the four years! 3 gallons of toluene and fill the tank with 93 your right around 98 octain if i remember correctly?

rx7tt95 09-28-02 11:38 PM

Sounds about right..I've run it for some time as well, mostly in my piston engine. I just purchased a single turbo so I have a feeling I'll be visiting Sherwin Williams for some Toluene sometime soon. Where do you get it at $3.75 a gallon?
Michel

Tec 09-29-02 01:55 AM

Sherwin Williams!

rxrotary2_7 09-29-02 06:28 AM

M.A.B paint stores, and F&H aslo cary it cheap.

Silver7 09-29-02 08:08 PM

Ihor- Octane boosters claim an increase in 2-3 points. A point is 1/10 of an octane. I doubt octane booster would even be detectable when mixed with 93-94 octane. FYI, 94 octane is really 93 octane mixed with toluene at the refinery. I have been using xylene for a couple of years now with very good results.

Silver93T 09-30-02 12:37 PM

Hey Josh, how much xylene do you use.

Silver7 09-30-02 05:52 PM

You are not supposed to go over a 10% mixture. I try to keep it just under 10% when I race. It's kind of ironic. The one time I decide to use real race gas (114) I experienced engine damage. I never blew a motor on xylene though. :)

Silver93T 10-01-02 10:07 AM

So how much would 10% xylene raise the octane of 93 or 94 pump gas

rxrotary2_7 10-01-02 10:38 AM

if using 92 octane
Xylene final octane
5% 93.25
10% 94.5
15% 95.75
20% 97
25% 98.25
30% 99.5

Final octane = ((percentage of xylene*117)+(percentage 92 octane fuel*92))

you can figure it out from whatever the rating you started with. this ratting is determined by Ron/Mon system from the refinery i believe, not from chemical testing. i could be wrong, but read what it says at the pump about ron/mon...i think that is what the engines are called..:confused: i have not read about it in a while.


you should definatly not use more than 20%. it leaves deposits when it burns. xylene has a rating of 117, but you can not run straight xylene

read up on it to learn more. actualy i am going to also to refresh my memory.

rxrotary2_7 10-01-02 10:41 AM

a 10% mixture of 94oct. will give you 96.30

and w/ 93 it will give you 95.4

Silver93T 10-01-02 11:19 AM

is there a way to make 100 octane?

rxrotary2_7 10-01-02 11:52 AM

hmmm...yes
i could figure it out with the formula i posted. maybe this time you can. :)
try it. its fun.

Silver93T 10-01-02 12:18 PM

Cause at the track they sell 100 octane unleaded. Its pretty expensive at $4.50 a gallon. I'd like to try to make my own to run on the street. I know xylene is pretty cheep.

Silver7 10-01-02 05:24 PM

I am not really sure how they make 100 octane fuel. For the amount of boost I have been running (<17psi) I have not seen the need to go above 96 octane. I think you may be better off trying to locate a small local airport to sell you some aviation fuel if you are trying to save some money. BTW, the cheapest I've found xylene is about $7 a gallon. If you really think about it, you are not even saving that much money by using it considering 116 race fuel goes for about $7 a gallon as well.

dvls-7 10-01-02 05:53 PM

Is there a difference between the xylene and toluene?....and how much of each is needed for a tank full of 93oct?

Toy 10-01-02 06:43 PM

toluene is 114 octane and xylene is 117. the gallon of xylene that i used says that of xylene that i bought says that xylene can be used anywhere toluene is needed...not that that i based my decision on that..they don't know that we use this stuff as "race fuel"


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