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veilside_mazda 06-05-04 06:25 PM

2.6 or 1.3
 
Im in the uk and on another forum i started a post about an rx7 gen3 and alot of people are saying that the car is a 2.6 and im sure that its a 1.3 could anyone shed some light on this :(:confused: and could you point me to a mazda site that states that because i know they wont believe me when i show them just the post

Thanks

Ps i sort of envy gen3 owners:( cause im 18 and i cant get insured on one yet

rynberg 06-05-04 06:43 PM

1. Use the search function, this has been debated to death.

2. This topic does not belong in the Advanced Tech 3rd Gen section.

Mahjik 06-07-04 10:15 PM

https://www.rx7club.com/showthread.p...hreadid=269803

Evil Aviator 06-07-04 11:18 PM

Re: 2.6 or 1.3
 

Originally posted by veilside_mazda
Im in the uk and on another forum i started a post about an rx7 gen3 and alot of people are saying that the car is a 2.6 and im sure that its a 1.3 could anyone shed some light on this :(:confused: and could you point me to a mazda site that states that because i know they wont believe me when i show them just the post
Many countries consider it a 2.6L engine for taxation purposes because it breathes like a 2.6L 4-stroke piston enigne. However, the displacement of the two rotor housings is 1.3L.

Snrub 06-09-04 05:00 PM

You're right it's 1.3L, but it breaths like a 2.6L.
Discussion ending proof:
http://www.geocities.com/jeffguilfoi...lacement1.html

TurboSmoke 06-09-04 06:07 PM

lets not start this subject again, please.

Evil Aviator 06-09-04 07:40 PM


Originally posted by Snrub
You're right it's 1.3L, but it breaths like a 2.6L.
Discussion ending proof:
http://www.geocities.com/jeffguilfoi...lacement1.html

Just as a clarification, it breathes like a 2.6L 4-stroke piston engine. It is very important to make that distinction, because it also breathes like a 1.3L 2-stroke piston engine. This is all assuming the same volumetric efficiency, of course. ;)


Originally posted by TurboSmoke
lets not start this subject again, please.
LOL, this thread is an explanation and clarification, not a debate, since there really is no point in debating a tax code. :)

KevinK2 06-14-04 01:50 PM

Re: 2.6 or 1.3
 

Originally posted by veilside_mazda
Im in the uk and on another forum i started a post about an rx7 gen3 and alot of people are saying that the car is a 2.6 and im sure that its a 1.3 could anyone shed some light on this :(:confused: and could you point me to a mazda site that states that because i know they wont believe me when i show them just the post
....

The simple answer is:

4-stroke piston engines dominate the auto world. Their rated displacement reflects the total air pumped in, over a complete engine cycle (2 crank revs). In this case, complete engine cycle is when all cylinders have been fired once.

Mazda wankels are also 4 stroke engines. But their rated displacement reflects the total air pumped in during just ONE crank rev.

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The 'one rev' mazda rating considers each housing as a cylinder, and suggests a complete engine cycle is when both housings have fired once (one rev). It ignores the fact that at any instant, 6 independent chambers (2 rotors x 3 faces) are each at varied stages of the otto cycle, just like a snapshot of a 6 cylinder piston engine.

Regarding displacement of air into the engine, automotive engineers (and a few others) understand that all 6 of these chambers will go through complete otto cycles in 3 e-shaft revs (one true engine cycle), displacing 3.9L in 3 revs. You can still just look at 2 revs (2.6L) to compare with piston engines, or one rev (1.3L) for the NSU/mazda rating.

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Problem is there is no proper universal method/standard for claimed engine displacement ratings, so ratings for 2-stroke scooters, v8 bentleys, and wankel rx7's are not technically consistent for direct comparison of injested air.

Jeff20B 06-14-04 02:52 PM

That's a good explanation, Kevin. I like 1.3L or 1308CC the best. Always have. :)

vspecpgt 06-14-04 04:37 PM

i think its easiest to just count the total volume of the combustion chambers..... we've got two "cylinders" and so add the two combustion chambers for the 2 cylinders and you get 1.3 liters.... same thing if you counted 4 civic combustion chambers (4 cylinder) you'd get 1.6....

bottom line, is that they are just mad cause we have cooler motors! whoo hoo!

paximus 06-14-04 06:20 PM


bottom line, is that they are just mad cause we have cooler motors! whoo hoo!
rotary :argue: piston

rotary :boxing: piston
rotary :bash: piston
but in the end...
:cuddle:
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