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GT34 05-16-07 08:37 PM

Humiliated rx-8 vs jeep
 
Yeah, I'm not too proud of it and I keep telling myself I'd smoke his ass around a track. But you can't get out of your car and throw down some pylons when you wanna street race someone.

Anyways, at a set of lights two lanes that turn left onto a freeway and go into one lane. I was in the right lane with my gf(the one that ends) and I was next to a jeep commander with the damn redneck hemi in it.

I thought piece of cake I'll be able to take this thing. Then the light turns green we both take off into a left hand turn and I was on the throttle the whole way around. The jeep got the jump on me and I was on the outside lane and when we straightened out I was just at his back door and very very very slowly walking on him.

I would have been able to pass him, but my lane was about to end and I had his front bumper by my door. I knew I wasn't going to make it and I yelled out "fuck!" and dropped back and let the jeep go so I could merge into his lane as mine was ending. Total piss off and ruined my already shitty day. I thought beating him would cheer me up. Oh yeah, and I kept refering to the driver as "him" when in reality it was fucking soccer mom who probly wasn't even trying! And yes that's ONE of the reasons why the 8 is going.

fd3s_jerry 05-16-07 08:54 PM

haha, that's what you get for driving a rotary family car!:rlaugh: :rlaugh: :rlaugh: :rlaugh: get the fd and come to the light.

Kotetsu 05-16-07 09:03 PM

Nice story man! I've personally tried a 8 before leaving for Japan and all I can say is that it definitely won't make it without a serious tune up.

GT34 05-16-07 09:10 PM


Originally Posted by fd3s_jerry (Post 6948297)
haha, that's what you get for driving a rotary family car!:rlaugh: :rlaugh: :rlaugh: :rlaugh: get the fd and come to the light.

Ha, I'm seeing the light. Checked one out yesterday, now I'm waiting for another sucker to buy the 8.

fcdin 05-17-07 12:18 AM

Sorry for jacking your thread but...
Almost the samething happened to me. Instead mines was a big new truck. Didnt know what kind or anything. All I could see was head lights through the rear view mirror. Couldnt even see their wind sheild. Im in the left lane wanting to shift in the right lane. It was right beside me. So then I gased it to pull ahead. I look in my rear mirrow and hes not there. I look to my right and I see lights but didnt see his car. My turn was coming and I had to slow down. All I could think was fucker. I did get the jump but I never saw him pass me til I slowed down.

Rx7TyreBurna 05-17-07 01:43 AM

Bummer dood.

My friend went on a cruise with a bunch of RX-8's to a dyno day. And he was driving a 96 Probe GT. Mods were just a cat-back and working VRIS (VDI like thing).

He was able to beat most of the RX-8's. There were a couple that were keeping up with him, but none that stomped him.

RX-8 is not that cool. Maybe if they come out with a nice turbo rotary.... :)

Anywho, sucks to lose. Shoulda had an RX-7... they never lose.... or so I hear...

XxMerlinxX 05-17-07 02:09 AM


Originally Posted by Rx7TyreBurna (Post 6949159)
Anywho, sucks to lose. Shoulda had an RX-7... they never lose....

And the truth shall set you free... :D

Buzzardsluck 05-17-07 02:15 AM

Who cares? Are ya'lls live so empty that you need to beat someone at a stop light?

Did you test drive the 8 before buying it? Ill just assume you have a 6spd.

The RX8 is a better or equal car to the FD except for power, if you just want power look elsewhere (like a piston motor). If I could only have one I would choose the 8 everytime.

Butthead 05-17-07 08:54 AM

Jeezus, learn how to drive. Bet your RX8 has an auto tranny too.

amp 05-17-07 09:07 AM


Originally Posted by Buzzardsluck (Post 6949211)
...The RX8 is a better or equal car to the FD except for power, ... If I could only have one I would choose the 8 everytime.

doesnt add up... must be the extra seats..
came close to the eight for a daily.. but needed the fifth seat..

Sprockett 05-17-07 09:34 AM


Who cares? Are ya'lls live so empty that you need to beat someone at a stop light?
+1 - you sound like a dumb ricer kid trying to race some guy in a Jeep...well, I say "race" but you were trying to basically cut him off. Person in the Jeep probably didn't even know he was racing someone.

Heisenberg 05-17-07 10:34 AM

I thought this was a spin on the guy who raced the cherokee.

XxMerlinxX 05-17-07 11:50 AM


Originally Posted by Buzzardsluck (Post 6949211)
The RX8 is a better or equal car to the FD except for power, if you just want power look elsewhere (like a piston motor). If I could only have one I would choose the 8 everytime.

You're smoking crack.

Hondaeat-R 05-17-07 02:37 PM

The Rx-8 is doo doo, straight up. I have 2 buddies that work @ Cooley Mazda here in NY, and apparently almost all of the people that bought an RX-8, are pissed a lot of the time because it's always broken.

Sprockett- If a RX-8 driver is beating on the car like he's in a race, and the other person "racing" is ahead or even close, either way, that person knows they're "racing". Regardless, 3/4's of the "Kills" that people write about are pure ricer bullshit...

Sprockett 05-17-07 03:10 PM

His words, not mine


Oh yeah, and I kept refering to the driver as "him" when in reality it was fucking soccer mom who probly wasn't even trying!

cool_as_crap 05-17-07 03:51 PM

:uh:

KhanArtisT 05-17-07 07:43 PM

hahahaha...funny RX8 owners. A jeep commander is a 16 second car...theres no fucking way. My bet is that either yours is auto or you don't know how to properly downshift into your powerband. You bought the wrong car for racing soccer moms either way...a new fully loaded top model toyota camry would dust your car in a drag race. Drag racing is the last thing RX8s were built to do...or do you think you just own the road with your mad tyte new sports car like every other typical 8 owner?

fd3s_jerry 05-17-07 07:53 PM

if it was an srt-8, I could see it. but again, the rx-8 sucks balls, and THE 7 CAN'T LOSE!!!:lol: :rlaugh:

FD369 05-17-07 09:24 PM


Originally Posted by Buzzardsluck (Post 6949211)
The RX8 is a better or equal car to the FD except for power, if you just want power look elsewhere (like a piston motor).


Originally Posted by XxMerlinxX (Post 6950228)
You're smoking crack.

I was thinking the same thing. What RX8 are you taking about, the 2033 model that isn't out yet.:rlaugh:

GT34 05-17-07 09:29 PM

QUOTE=KhanArtisT;6951789]hahahaha...funny RX8 owners. A jeep commander is a 16 second car...theres no fucking way. My bet is that either yours is auto or you don't know how to properly downshift into your powerband. You bought the wrong car for racing soccer moms either way...a new fully loaded top model toyota camry would dust your car in a drag race. Drag racing is the last thing RX8s were built to do...or do you think you just own the road with your mad tyte new sports car like every other typical 8 owner?[/QUOTE]

You've got it all figured out. I did buy the 8 just so I could race everything and inflict pwnage on everyone out there. And I am the damn king of the road in my 8. It's so fast I'd own you in a second! You're the typicall forum dork that hangs out all day reading every new thread and talking shit from the comfort of his own home hiding behind his keyboard. Using the 8 for drag is probly the last reason I bought it for. It was a kill story and I got killed and I posted it.

Please tell me how I can downshift into my powerband from a dig? 130tq at the wheels means dick all when the car weighs almost 3400lbs wet with a passenger (wets a small word, you should be able to figure it out. If not, it means with all your fluids and a full tank of gas. Did you catch that? If not google it then run your head into a wall you douchebag)

Buzzardsluck 05-17-07 09:53 PM

For starters I own both, how many of you have actually had seat time and ownership with both. Secondly my FD actually works and works well and is a very nice car (yes I am proud of that).

The RX8 is FAR more practical for everyday life than a FD, you can't argue this don't even try. While most of you seem to drive race tracks on the way to and back to work I do not. The RX8 corners as well and is MUCH easier to take to the limit. The 8 is better or as good as a FD with power and maybe looks as the exception.

If you were saying Im on crack about the pistons comment I meant that the OP would probably ruin a FD and should just skip getting one.

fd3s_jerry 05-17-07 10:29 PM

everyone was new to rotaries at some point.

KhanArtisT 05-17-07 10:35 PM


Originally Posted by GT34 (Post 6952152)
Please tell me how I can downshift into my powerband from a dig? 130tq at the wheels means dick all when the car weighs almost 3400lbs wet with a passenger (wets a small word, you should be able to figure it out. If not, it means with all your fluids and a full tank of gas. Did you catch that? If not google it then run your head into a wall you douchebag)

I knew it...typical 8 owner :icon_tdow hahaha. Chill out, I love RX8s, I just hate seeing soccer moms and kids driving them, most people here that have one don't know shit about it. I didn't read your first post all the way through (so much for being a forum dork), I figured you'd be like the typical idiot that just jams the shifter into a lower gear without rev-matching and steps on the gas..lol. dump the clutch next time, he probably figured you'd try it cuz your car looks sporty lol.

REVERE 05-17-07 11:11 PM


Originally Posted by Buzzardsluck (Post 6952250)
For starters I own both, how many of you have actually had seat time and ownership with both. Secondly my FD actually works and works well and is a very nice car (yes I am proud of that).

The RX8 is FAR more practical for everyday life than a FD, you can't argue this don't even try. While most of you seem to drive race tracks on the way to and back to work I do not. The RX8 corners as well and is MUCH easier to take to the limit. The 8 is better or as good as a FD with power and maybe looks as the exception.

If you were saying Im on crack about the pistons comment I meant that the OP would probably ruin a FD and should just skip getting one.

^Agreed. Though I can't say I have had ownership of both I have done a few hours in an 8 and I am ashamed to say I was pretty impressed. The power is really smooth and predictable and it can handle at least as good as a 7. If it had more power and better looks I would grab one. But honestly people look at the 8 as if it is the next gen rx-7 it's not, you only have to look at the price difference when new to work that one out

chutzpah 05-18-07 12:17 AM

...Soccer mom :rlaugh:

XxMerlinxX 05-18-07 01:13 AM


Originally Posted by Buzzardsluck (Post 6952250)
For starters I own both, how many of you have actually had seat time and ownership with both. Secondly my FD actually works and works well and is a very nice car (yes I am proud of that).

The RX8 is FAR more practical for everyday life than a FD, you can't argue this don't even try. While most of you seem to drive race tracks on the way to and back to work I do not. The RX8 corners as well and is MUCH easier to take to the limit. The 8 is better or as good as a FD with power and maybe looks as the exception.

If you were saying Im on crack about the pistons comment I meant that the OP would probably ruin a FD and should just skip getting one.

For starters, who buys a sports car for practicality? You want to be practical? Go buy an accord. I've had seat time in the 8, and it blew. The RX-8 does NOT corner as well as an RX-7. Yes, it does inspire confidence, but that's not the same as actually being able to handle the same curves. The 8 did a .88 on the skidpad while the 7 did a .99 instead. Not even close, as the .88 is right next to the montecarlo and GTO. Those cars are boats. So what, exactly, makes it a better car? The fact that it has back seats? That just makes it more practical, not overall better.

jojodotcom 05-18-07 01:35 AM

GT34, time to import those JDM FD's from japan~ only $13k landed

Buzzardsluck 05-18-07 02:15 AM

Skip pad ratings? Great tool there, always lets you know what the best cornering car is LOL. Only a idiot would say an 8 blew at handling, wow. Even people who hate 8 concede the handling, well except for people such as yourself.

Im done in this thread, obviously talking with some number racers here.

XxMerlinxX 05-18-07 02:45 AM


Originally Posted by Buzzardsluck (Post 6952957)
Skip pad ratings? Great tool there, always lets you know what the best cornering car is LOL. Only a idiot would say an 8 blew at handling, wow. Even people who hate 8 concede the handling, well except for people such as yourself.

Im done in this thread, obviously talking with some number racers here.

That's cool, you obviously don't know what you're talking about.

Sprockett 05-18-07 09:23 AM


The 8 did a .88 on the skidpad while the 7 did a .99 instead. Not even close, as the .88 is right next to the montecarlo and GTO. Those cars are boats
The Rx8 may have only pulled a .88g, but the McLaren F1 only managed a .86g. I doubt you would consider that car a "boat". So, then, would an FD be faster than a McLaren F1 around the track? Skidpad numbers aren't everything. However, I still am not convinced that an Rx8 is better than the 7 on a track. If it were lighter, maybe. If it had more power, perhaps. But the fact that the 7 has more power to get out of the corners faster and is lighter for better acceleration/braking...I don't know. It'd be interesting to watch a comparison of the two, though...don't think the Stig ever drove an FD around Millbrook
For reference, the Stig's lap time for the Rx8 was 1:31.8. That places it right at the same time as an E46 M3 (1:31.8), slightly slower than a Honda NSX-R (1:31.6), and over a second and a half faster than a Ford Focus RS (1:32.2). Now that's not science, but it's about as close to a real-world comparison as you can get...same driver, same track.

ferragame 05-18-07 10:23 AM


Originally Posted by Buzzardsluck (Post 6952957)
Skip pad ratings? Great tool there, always lets you know what the best cornering car is LOL. Only a idiot would say an 8 blew at handling, wow. Even people who hate 8 concede the handling, well except for people such as yourself.

Im done in this thread, obviously talking with some number racers here.

Agreed. I have both an 8 and a 7. The 8 is a much more practial car and will out handle a 7 in most situations. Skid pad numbers don't really equate with real world corners.....afterall real world corners are not constant radius, flat and smooth - dynamic handling is different.

The 8 is set up differently than a 7 and transistions (at least to me) much better. The engine is farther back and lower in the chassis and the fuel tank is under the passenger seat rather than at the back and high up as in a 7. Better center of gravity and polar moment of enertia.

But the 8 IS dog slow. A Mazsport or ptp turbo kit (hp up over 350 at the wheels - they sell various stages) will help a bunch. The Greddy turbo kit is crap. Read up on the RX-8 forum for those who are interested.

As for me.......the 7 is for fun - single turbo, fast. Evo for a DD and my wife drives the 8 now :D

XxMerlinxX 05-18-07 03:21 PM


Originally Posted by Sprockett (Post 6953340)
The Rx8 may have only pulled a .88g, but the McLaren F1 only managed a .86g. I doubt you would consider that car a "boat". So, then, would an FD be faster than a McLaren F1 around the track? Skidpad numbers aren't everything. However, I still am not convinced that an Rx8 is better than the 7 on a track. If it were lighter, maybe. If it had more power, perhaps. But the fact that the 7 has more power to get out of the corners faster and is lighter for better acceleration/braking...I don't know. It'd be interesting to watch a comparison of the two, though...don't think the Stig ever drove an FD around Millbrook
For reference, the Stig's lap time for the Rx8 was 1:31.8. That places it right at the same time as an E46 M3 (1:31.8), slightly slower than a Honda NSX-R (1:31.6), and over a second and a half faster than a Ford Focus RS (1:32.2). Now that's not science, but it's about as close to a real-world comparison as you can get...same driver, same track.

About the McLaren, that was my point. The RX-7 has more power than the RX-8, so when comparing only the handling aspect of it, you can't go by track times, which is why I made reference to the skidpad numbers. That test doesn't rely on power, simply on handling.

fd3s_jerry 05-18-07 04:31 PM

I'm still thinkin the fd will rape an rx-8 in handling as well as everything else.

Sprockett 05-18-07 05:46 PM

Ah ha! you're WRONG. Rx8 > Rx7 when it comes to # of people it can hold :) That's about it I think...maybe reliability.

TehMonkay 05-18-07 06:56 PM

At least you dont have an NA FC.

SLOASFK 05-18-07 08:23 PM


Originally Posted by Sprockett (Post 6953340)
For reference, the Stig's lap time for the Rx8 was1:31.8. That places it right at the same time as an E46 M3 (1:31.8), slightly slower than a Honda NSX-R (1:31.6), and over a second and a half faster than a Ford Focus RS (1:32.2)

You failed remedial arithmetic, didn't you? 1:32.2 - 1:31.8 = 0:00.4

hmm..1.5 seconds or .4 seconds...wow.

Anyway, the FD pulled .99gs and ran a 13.9 with 1991 tire technology. stock FDs with new tires pull closer to 1.1gs and run 13.4s...soooo

SLOASFK 05-18-07 08:24 PM


Originally Posted by Sprockett (Post 6954854)
Ah ha! you're WRONG. Rx8 > Rx7 when it comes to # of people it can hold :) That's about it I think...maybe reliability.

An FD and an 8 each with 450whp, FD will be more reliable every time :)

rotaxrave 05-18-07 10:26 PM

i bet my car handles better than an rx8....

bella_daniela 05-18-07 11:00 PM

all i had to see there was rx-8, enough said:lol:

Sprockett 05-19-07 01:28 AM


You failed remedial arithmetic, didn't you? 1:32.2 - 1:31.8 = 0:00.4
Yeah, I'm a little dyslexic...was counting from 1:31.2 to 1:32.8...messed up the numbers a bit lol.

XxMerlinxX 05-19-07 06:45 PM


Originally Posted by 93VRTouring (Post 6955317)
You failed remedial arithmetic, didn't you? 1:32.2 - 1:31.8 = 0:00.4

hmm..1.5 seconds or .4 seconds...wow.

Anyway, the FD pulled .99gs and ran a 13.9 with 1991 tire technology. stock FDs with new tires pull closer to 1.1gs and run 13.4s...soooo

Oh, but you obviously must be a numbers racer. :rlaugh:

GT34 05-20-07 01:07 AM


Originally Posted by jojodotcom (Post 6952901)
GT34, time to import those JDM FD's from japan~ only $13k landed

Sweet thanks. I see you're from the coast, and I bet a lot of them are hitting the shores now. I was looking at some jdm's but I found a local lhd one with low milage for a good price that I'm going to go with. Thanks anyways.

slow7NC 05-20-07 07:16 PM

You guys ever seen an Rx-8 perform at an autocross track? The Rx-8 here wins in his stock classwith falken azenis, and usually is 3rd or 4th place in times - thats up against the street mods, street prepared, all that good stuff and the tire classes. And this is out of 140+ drivers every single event.

Rx-8 is a nice car. You haters need to shut up. Sorry that the Rx-8 isnt as fast as a bridgeported single turbo rx-7.


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