Mazda's best rally car?
This is posted in the second gen section, but you race guys might miss it????
https://www.rx7club.com//showthread....hreadid=279220 |
Nah, the 323 GTX was the best rally car with championships to prove it. That thing is a hemorphadite.
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I like the suspension and chasis of that car, but the second gen guys are right is is very ugly. No problem, a new body could be made for it.
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1st-gens are still winning national championships in the US of A.
Of course, Mazda isn't exactly backing them anymore... :) |
I dont think that car actually ever got to compete coz of changes in the rules... it was the end of the Group B era by then
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awd, the 323gtx
rwd, 1st gen 7. infact there is some guy that is surprising everyone in his 1st gen. i'm guessing that's who pj is referring to. |
Several people, actually. :) Although Andrew Havas's seems to be the most photogenic one...
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actually mazda campaiegned a 3 rotor awd fc for pikes peak back in 89 i believe. I have a picture somewhere. but to answer your question that would be mazdas best rally car.
the 323 gtx is an awesome rallycross car but it has major tranny problems. |
That's funny I have had 3 323 GTXs and I have never heard of or personally had any major tranny problems. Unless, you put it a 4 puck unsprung disc, the weakpoint in the drive train is the clutch.
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Rally guys break 323 trannies left and right.
Even the 2WD version of the tranny is pretty weak... |
Yeah, I used to do SCCA Club Rally for several years (not in a Mazda).
As was stated above the 323 GTX does pretty well but is now very outclassed by the WRX and the Lancer. Sometimes a 323 would still win at a club or regional event but never a national event. However, the 1st generation RX7 still does pretty well in RWD. As a matter of fact a 1st gen RX7 took 1st place OVERALL at the Prescott, AZ rally a few years back. |
Originally posted by M's actually mazda campaiegned a 3 rotor awd fc for pikes peak back in 89 i believe. I have a picture somewhere. but to answer your question that would be mazdas best rally car. the 323 gtx is an awesome rallycross car but it has major tranny problems. |
ok, but it was still a mazda rx7, correct ;)
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That's a bunch of nice parts, but do they work well? Has that car ever raced and won? 323's and 1st-gen's are proven competitors.
For rally, I'll take the Suby please... -s- |
Originally posted by C. Ludwig Nah, the 323 GTX was the best rally car with championships to prove it. That thing is a hemorphadite. My old GTX didn't have any tranny problems, then again I never rally'd it :cool: I think its the 2nd gear synchro that gives everyone problems. Weak tranny aside, the car did have one major short coming, a god awful cable shifter. |
It isn't ugly if it's fast.
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Originally posted by Hamza734 My old GTX didn't have any tranny problems, then again I never rally'd it :cool: I think its the 2nd gear synchro that gives everyone problems. Originally posted by Hamza734 Weak tranny aside, the car did have one major short coming, a god awful cable shifter. |
That's one ugly car. Dont think it's a Rally car though because of the Homogulation rules (must be based upon a production car with minimum run of ??? ).
Dont know how many AWD RX7's were made but I do know of 1 I saw in Nevada... http://www.4seventeen.com/images/awdrx7.jpg http://www.4seventeen.com/images/rally7.gif |
As previously mentioned, it was built by Mazda as the ultimate rally weapon, but then the rules changed... just a piece of history now.
A friend has a Japanese GTR-323 as a circuit / targa car and it is forever braking tranny's. http://mrec.homestead.com/files/members/sc_323.jpg The top rally versions ran non-mazda x-trac transmisions (spelling?) which cost more than the standard road car, but at least they did not go pop every second event! |
Originally posted by Rated R1 I rally-x'd my GTX all the time on a course that was as bad, or worse, than any rally stage. I never had any problems with the tranny. Don't forget that infamous crankshaft nose! |
Originally posted by M's ok, but it was still a mazda rx7, correct ;) |
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