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benny 08-08-04 07:16 PM

Dyno 13B peripheral video
 
Just ran the EX IMSA RX7 Peripheral 13B on the dyno, and here is a link to
the video.
Unfortunately the ignition cut out at 6800 rpm, and we were not able to fix
it at the dyno shop.
We will be back next week we a proven ignition system.


http://images.realride.com/cgi-bin/i...mv&img=&tt=avi


<ahref="http://images.realride.com/cgi-bin/imageFolio.cgi?action=view&link=Video&image=RX7-Dyno.wmv&img=&tt=avi">Video</a>

benny
Realride

obviousboy 08-08-04 08:31 PM

thats sick........
how high can it rev??

benny 08-08-04 09:01 PM

normally with my drysump 10.5, this time it cut out at 6500.
Benny

TYSON 08-09-04 01:59 PM

carb or FI?

open exhaust?

what did the dyno print look like up to 6800?

benny 08-09-04 05:47 PM

58 genberk carb. at 6400 184hp, so base on my last engine pull I 'm right where I should be to acheive 292hp at the wheels.
Last time we had 182hp at 6400

benny 08-09-04 05:48 PM

Exhaust 3'' with Borla Mufler (burn in about 3 hours anyway !)

http://images.realride.com/cgi-bin/i..._Benny/exhaust

Bridge_FD3S 08-11-04 09:41 AM

That was absolute music to me ears.
Cant wait to see the full run to 10.5k rpm :bigthumb:

Travis R 08-11-04 12:37 PM

Wow the sound is really misleading. I thought it had reved way past 6800rpm. Still sounds great though.
You've made awesome progress on the car.
Next I want to see some in car video at the track. :D

1RevvinFC3S 08-11-04 07:15 PM

WOW! Sounds incredible. I LOVE that "BRAP BRAP BRAP" of those. How "reliable" (ha) is pp? Would a good bridge be better for a street/race setup?

Sorry for being off topic, but I need power.

3RotorRocket 08-12-04 02:59 AM


Originally Posted by 1RevvinFC3S
WOW! Sounds incredible. I LOVE that "BRAP BRAP BRAP" of those. How "reliable" (ha) is pp? Would a good bridge be better for a street/race setup?

Sorry for being off topic, but I need power.

A PP lowers the motors life expectancy worse than a BP

Go with a bridgeport or half bridgeport for a street/race setup

pp13bnos 08-12-04 08:13 AM


Originally Posted by 4RotorRocket
A PP lowers the motors life expectancy worse than a BP

Go with a bridgeport or half bridgeport for a street/race setup


I'm not going to get into anouther debate about wich is more reliable. But you are completely wrong. CJ

banzaitoyota 08-12-04 08:37 AM

I have to agree with CJ on this one. 4RR: how many modified engines have you personally run? Other than your vast knowledge of how to steal pics of other peoples work and claim it as yours?

igottafc 08-12-04 10:46 AM

lol, that thing isnt even an rx7 anymore! lol moor sounds amazing, i wish my fc sounded like that

benny 08-12-04 12:57 PM

Actually I getting more life out of my PP than a brigeport. I have no over heating problem and run a full season on my PP (unless I miss shift !!!).

RETed 08-12-04 04:52 PM

Was that a 5th gear pull?


-Ted

benny 08-12-04 06:42 PM

No it was a 3rd gear pull.
thx
ben

RETed 08-12-04 09:20 PM

Did I miss the dyno numbers somewhere?
What did it do with the lower redline?


-Ted

benny 08-13-04 10:16 AM

184hp
Will go to the dyno tomorow morning.
So will post new results

DriveFast7 08-13-04 11:52 AM

Sweet! Can't wait to see it and compare to my little 12a J-bridge with ceramics :)

What size chokes in the gene berg?

speedturn 08-14-04 08:51 PM

I have been road racing since 1995. I ran a 12A peripheral port motor from 1997 thru 2003, and it never had to come out of the car all those years. I built a new 13B one this year because the old one was getting tired and I wanted more power and torque from the larger 13B.
PP motors are more reliable than bridge ported motors. The only reason anyone races a bridge port motor is because either their race rules will not allow peripheral ports or because they can't afford PP.

I have driven my PP motor on the street, and it is not streetable. It will not pull at low street rpms because the PP is timed for high rpm torque only.

DriveFast7 08-16-04 12:41 PM

How did the dynoing turn out benny? Take any video? When will the car be back on the track?

benny 08-19-04 12:50 PM

here is a link to a 10500rpm pass

Travis R 08-19-04 02:14 PM

Uh, am I the only one that doesn't see a link?

BigIslandSevens 08-19-04 02:15 PM


Originally Posted by Travis R
Uh, am I the only one that doesn't see a link?

nope! :D

he just did it to get our mouths watering!

C. Ludwig 08-19-04 04:44 PM

http://images.realride.com/cgi-bin/i...mv&img=&tt=avi


Here ya go. ;)

benny 08-19-04 05:41 PM

all of them

http://images.realride.com/cgi-bin/i...i?direct=Video

BigIslandSevens 08-19-04 07:58 PM

good god!! I am suprised the windows on that old winni don't blow out with that rpm frequency!!:D

What gear and #'s was that in. sounded like 4th gear from the shifts?

Very nice set-up.

Also it sounded like the ignition hiccup moved to the low end on that run...or is that just a camera twitch in the audio?

sectachrome 08-19-04 08:11 PM

:bowdown:

im not ashamed to say that gave me wood :bigthumb:

benny 08-19-04 10:48 PM

Yes it was a 4th gear run.
The hick up at low rpm was toomuch fule, we did test different jet.

And Sectachrome you are manly enough to admit what we all feel when we see car that we love !

Thx
ben

MakoRacing[S13] 08-20-04 12:50 AM

That was a well deserved backfire at the end. Sweet car!

Lukus 08-20-04 07:14 AM


Originally Posted by benny
Just ran the EX IMSA RX7 Peripheral 13B on the dyno, and here is a link to
the video.
Unfortunately the ignition cut out at 6800 rpm, and we were not able to fix
it at the dyno shop.
We will be back next week we a proven ignition system.

benny
Realride

That thing is awesome! How on earth did you come across it!?!

benny 08-20-04 08:49 AM

that should answer it !



TALES OF RESTORING AN IMSA GTU RACE CAR
Benoit
5/16/2004

TALES OF RESTORING AN IMSA GTU RACE CAR

Story as told by Benoit Pecqueur

In the Summer of 2003, I was trying to sell my 1988 13B peripheral Mazda RX7 racecar on Ebay, and was looking for a tube frame racecar to replace it. One of the Ebay bidders, Richard Gray, had come over to inspect my car and mentioned in passing that he had seen a former IMSA GTU racecar for sale about 8 months ago. But he felt that the car would be too expensive to restore as it was missing the engine, transmission, and the rear upright. My dream car has always been to own an IMSA GTU class RX7 and even though Richard decided not to buy my car, I immediately began my search for this car on Ebay. Sadly my search came up unsuccessful, but I saved my search settings for an automatic update.

As the season ended in late 2003, I still hadn’t sold my car so I decided to repaint it, add a new carbon wing, and just work on some finishing details for the 2004 racing season. It was the first Saturday of January 2004 and I had spent the day delivering my car from the body shop to my fabricator Pablo Mobius so he could reinforce my roll cage and install my new Racetech seat. When I got home, I checked my email and my Ebay search alert showed an ex-IMSA Mazda RX7 for sale. I immediately sent an email inquiry for more details and pictures to the seller who was in Pennsylvania.

The next morning, I finally spoke to the seller who informed me that the car was not original as it had been fitted with an incomplete 20b three-rotor engine, as opposed to the original 13b two-rotor peripheral port engine. While he was not sure about the complete history of this car, he did know that this car formerly belonged to a two-car team. This particular car was in Corona Beer livery number 72, which he had since repainted white. He added that the team’s sister car was in Corona Light Beer livery number 88. We ended our two hour-long conversations with a tentative agreement that I would purchase the car pending more information and detailed photos.

My first phone call on Monday morning was to Pablo Mobius, asking him to hold off on upgrades to my old car, at least until Friday while I continued my research on the new car. Thirty phone calls later; I discovered that the last owner of the car had raced some Porsches afterwards and now lived in nearby Venice Beach.

Further phone calls to Mazda USA, virtually every Mazda Performance Company and Tuner, from Roger Mandeville on the east coast to Joe Huffaker on the west coast and every body between, as well as the IMSA series revealed nothing. On a whim, I decided to call old friend and Porsche guru, David Bouzaglou who said, “Your man is Bob Farham. He used to race in IMSA and now has a body shop in Venice Beach CA”.

Twenty-eight hours after leaving a message, Bob finally called back. He described his experiences running in the IMSA series, his team, and the Corona car. Halfway into the conversation, he casually mentioned, “Oh by the way, I’ve had the second car, the Corona Light number 88 car sitting here in my garage for the past 10 years, but it is missing the engine transmission and a rear upright”. After my initial excitement, we settled on Friday afternoon for me to visit him and inspect the car.

It wasn’t until after I hung up the phone that I realized why the thought of a car with a missing upright seemed so familiar. The conversation that I had with Richard eight months earlier suddenly came back to me. So after a call with Richard, followed by another twenty to thirty calls to everybody that I could think of who used to crew on IMSA teams during the era (thank God I was calling from work “Pennyweb.com”, I found the original Chassis builder, Joecarr Racing, based in Petaluma, CA. It took a quick phone call and very little convincing for them to agree to try building me a new upright. Now all that was left was for me to transfer the engine and transmission from my old car to the new one.

I made Bob an offer for half the amount of the other car, which he accepted. “What the hell, take it out of the garage” was the exact reply. Lest you think the hard part is over? YEAH RIGHT!


Once the car arrived at my garage, I began to dismantle it in preparation for a full ground up rebuild. At the same time, I began the complete dismantling of my old racecar so that I could sell every part except the engine and transmission on Ebay. In the end, it took about 65 auctions to sell off the pieces. But trying to investigate who made each part on the new car and where it was made on was like trying to piece together a 1,000-piece jigsaw puzzle with no picture, while being partially blind!

As we approached the middle of April, the car looked to be near completion except the infamous rear upright, was still a no show. I had not heard from Joecarr so,I since turned to Cliff Cappos from Unique Metal Product, a fabricator near San Diego, for help. We determined that the spindle was from a Mid 70’s Corvette with a Porsche 930 flange that is bolted to short off road axles connected to a Speedway Engineering rear end. Now I just had to make everything bolt together onto a Mazda RX7! I learned about CAD Design, CNC equipment and EDM wire cutting. When you start getting parts at places where they have NASA certification logos mounted on the wall like “Hamilton Engineering of La Crescenta, CA,” you know it’s not going to be cheap.
Finally on April 24 Cliff Cappos delivers on the new custom built upright, and ironically we meet in the parking lot of Mazda USA in Irvine being the halfway point between us both.
Through multiple forum postings and even more phone calls, I received a lot of information about the original owner of the car. I have to admit that I received a lot of help from passionate people and it will take me some time to personally thank all of them.
My car was previously owned by Mike Henderson of San Diego; and the sister car belonged to John Daley from San Diego as well. I finally was able to talk to Mike and got a better understanding about the history of the car as well as valuable technical information. He told me who originally built the car and was surprised to learn it was Unlimited Metal Product! I immediately called Cliff and said, “you never told me you built that car.” Cliff was equally surprised and revealed that he bought the business in ’93 so it must have been the previous owner.
As for the rest of the car, most of it was pretty straight forward, especially when my teammate and dear friend, Tim Spencer, the guru of knowing the most useless specification on parts that no one has ever heard of, got involved in this project “For once his extensive knowledge paid off”. HRP World was a tremendous help as they sourced and rebuilt the air jacks, as well as the brake and fuel systems and numerous pieces. Our friend Tony Woodford at AWR Racing also fabricated some parts as well as Pablo Mobius from Palmdale CA, while Mazda USA provided additional advice and directed me on the right track. Despite all the outside sources of help, it still took close to three months of 20 hours weekends with Tim, myself and another friend, Kevin Corish, to get the car to its current state.

In May we were invited by Mazda to display the car at the Road and Track Sports Car Invitational at the Mazda Laguna Seca Raceway. Despite the tight deadline we were able to show the car, although unable to run it.
I’m hoping to have the car to be race ready by the end of August where I will campaign it with HSR vintage races and NASA Endurance series, with a hope to run the Thunderhill 25 Hours Endurance in December 2004. The car will also be at the Sevenstock at the Mazda R&D center in Irvine California in September.



So here is my advice before taking on a project such as mine:

1) Make sure you have an understanding wife and baby!

2) Get an Ebay account.

3) Make sure you have good friends as you will ask for their help a lot. Your neighbor will hide from you knowing you will always be asking for help.

4) Be very patient and nice to people that you will call five times in a row within an hour.

5) Refinance your house and hope your baby will be too dumb to go to college.





Summary of The #88 Corona Light car:

- Built for Mike Henderson/ John Daley, owner of the Daley Corporation .

- Fuel Injection system built by Crower.

- A total of two (2) Identical cars were built; the #72 Corona Beer sponsored car and the #88 Corona Light Beer sponsored car.

- The maiden event for the #88 car was the 1989 Portland IMSA GT race where John finished 10th in the 90 minute IMSA GTU race.

- The next outing was at Laguna Seca Raceway, followed by the season finale at the Del Mar Grand Prix.

- In 1990, the car DNF’d at Topeka, San Antonio and Del Mar, but managed a 10th place at Portland again.

- The car was later sold to Bob Farnham and Gary Biehl of Redondo Beach under the "Beach Boys Racing" banner where it continued racing in 1991, at Laguna Seca, followed by the season finale at Del Mar where it managed a 7th place finish, its best to date.

- In 1992, Gary Biehl gave it another shot at Laguna Seca where he finished 11th in class .

- In 1993 the team sporadically entered races including Sebring and the Daytona 24 hours.

RealRide/Pennyweb

RacerX7fb 08-20-04 10:59 AM

Nice :) .. I read that on Rotarynews.com
Alot of history behind racecars, like where they end up at ... my buds at SPD Racing in San Diego got hold of an RX-3. Upon stripping off the layers of paint, the word Gatorade began showing itself. With subsequent phonecalls made, it turns out to be one of the 1978 Daytona cars!
I believe that Mike Henderson is still running an RX-7 in GT-3
Looking forward to seeing that GTU beauty at SS7 :noyes:

BigIslandSevens 08-20-04 01:50 PM

5) Refinance your house and hope your baby will be too dumb to go to college.




Laughed for about an hour That was a great finally to a great story!! Way to go man. And Kudos to the wife and child as well;)

Lukus 08-20-04 07:07 PM

Fantastic story! I one day hope to do a similiar thing, as i think most of us on here would dearly like to! :)

I eagerly await it's first track appearance, and the ending of that build-up story :)

SHPNOUT 08-20-04 10:24 PM

How much power did you put down?

SHPNOUT 08-20-04 10:25 PM

How much power did you put down?

Fantastic story BTW

xcmav66 08-30-04 10:23 AM

I didn't think the revs would stop!

Sideways7 02-13-05 11:01 PM


Originally Posted by SHPNOUT
How much power did you put down?

I'm wondering the same thing. Also, how fast was that at 10500 in 4th?

benny 02-13-05 11:23 PM

280 hp
Thx
Ben

speedx7 02-13-05 11:42 PM

wow, that was sweet!!!!!!

iceman4357 02-13-05 11:56 PM

car sounds like my R6


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