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elwood 03-25-03 08:35 PM

1st Gen Rear Suspension
 
I have an '84 GSL-SE, and have come to the conclusion that I want to go faster on road racing courses, which will necessitate having the car's rear end stick better. I contacted ISC about their "3-link" rear setup with Panhard rod, which requires some welding to attach. Any experience with this or other modifications to enhance 1st Gen rear adhesion?

buttlips 03-26-03 09:05 AM

Those items are worth every penny!

Speed Raycer 03-26-03 08:07 PM

Hey Buttlips! Do you have a tri-link on your 7? Any chance you're making the trip to Gateway this weekend?

buttlips 03-27-03 07:39 AM

Speed,

I'm not heading out this weekend since there's no National race. I'll be there in May for the first Regional/national weekend.

Yes, I do have a Tri-Link. Mine is a modified version of the one Jim Susko sells at G-Force.

riffraff 03-27-03 04:01 PM

buttlips: how smooth is your seven with the trilink and panhard bar.. i have both in mine, and it feels like it is binding (abrupt, as if it was almost wheel hop) when i am at low rpm's..
soon i am going to put a fatter panhard bar on, and change the third link out to one that mouts ontop of the drive shaft (into the storage bin area). but i am still woundering if there is something messed up with my setup.

elwood 03-27-03 09:34 PM

buttlips: How do the ISC and G-Force trilink setups compare? How do I contact G-Force? Are there other setups I should consider? (I'm only aware of the makers of racewear by the same name)

NanaimoRx-7 03-27-03 11:23 PM

http://www.gforceengineering.net/products.htm

buttlips 03-28-03 07:40 AM

Riff,

Mine is really smooth. Look under your car to see if there is evidence of any parts hitting the underside of the tub. Otherwise, I would re-evaluate your springs and shocks for the source of your wheel hop. The Tri-Link should really free up the movement in the rear end and prevent binding.

Elwood,

The main difference between the two is how they mount. The ISC setup mounts to a frame rail and requires welding, whereas the G-Force version mounts in transmission tunnel and can be bolted in. The geometry on the two is basically identical.

I would offer this pice of advice with the G-forcemodel. If you're doing any really hard driving (i.e. road racing with slicks on the car) it's a good idea to beef up your transmission tunnel. I ripped mine out of the car, and I know many other racers who have done the same.

peejay 03-28-03 04:50 PM

I personally would be leery of bolting any suspension pickup points in.

Hell I'm leery of having a big ol' bend in the middle of the link. :) Which is why if I go 3-link it will be custom done. Screw the floorpan, I'll cut it, I want *strength*.

1st7heaven 03-28-03 04:56 PM

I have G-forces tri-link but I autocross.

http://www.cardomain.com/id/7heaven

Rx7carl 03-28-03 09:35 PM


Originally posted by peejay
I personally would be leery of bolting any suspension pickup points in.

Hell I'm leery of having a big ol' bend in the middle of the link. :) Which is why if I go 3-link it will be custom done. Screw the floorpan, I'll cut it, I want *strength*.

It's plenty strong. Yes its a compromise cause of the rules, but quite adequate. Never heard of one breaking yet. Mines rock solid. :)

peejay 03-30-03 11:24 PM

Yeah but you are bound by rules.

I still have dreams of 400 or so HP from a light pressure turbo bridge/peripheral motor. Having that much power might make me consider upgrading the suspension. :D

buttlips 03-31-03 07:46 AM

I would love to run a straight bar into the car, but that would move me from EP to GT-3.

RX-7 Carl: I never had a problem when I was running in ITA, but since moving to EP, I've broken a couple of them. That's why we modified ours. We use the same geometry as Susko's, but our bar is much beefier.

riffraff 04-01-03 05:42 PM

is yours the type that mounts over the drive shaft (cutting into the storage bins)? i am thinking about ditching the third link that i have and moving over to something like that... i am not building my car to meet any class regulations, so i am not worried about that.

buttlips 04-02-03 10:00 AM

No, mine does not cut into the car at all. If you have no class rules to car about, using a straight link that cuts through where the bins are located is the way to go. It's stronger than the ones we use which have a bend in them.


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