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Shabib67 05-22-07 01:02 PM

2jz-gte swap into FD
 
Hey guys very interested in doing a 2jz-swap into an FD. I remember a couple of years ago that SP Engineering did the "Supra Seven" but that required a lot of custom work to get fit. There is a website called 2jzswap.com and they have developed mount kits to fit 2jz-gte in s13, s14 240sx. They also claim they have made a kit to fit the 2jz-gte in the FC and FD. I was wondering if anyone has used their mount kits before and besides the engine and tranny what else is needed to complete this project. If you guys have no idea who i am talking about here is the link.

http://2jzswap.com/index.php

My goal is to swap in the 2jz-gte w/getrag 6 speed into the fd without having to cut or swap the subframe. I will be giving 2jzswap.com a call to see what else is needed with their mount kit but if anyone has used it before please chime in here.

7passu 05-22-07 05:16 PM

did you ever find out anything?

S1gnal 05-22-07 06:58 PM

2JZSwaps FD kit is about 3 weeks to a month away from being finished and for sale, from what I heard from the guy who does all of Tech 2's wiring harnesses. and yes 1st post Hi

JDMRevolution 05-22-07 08:32 PM

Why would anyone bother with this swap? Is this going to be a drag car?

Mazda_Power 05-22-07 09:19 PM

It must be a worthless swap.



lol


Just because it's heavier doesn't mean it's the end of the world. Relocating the battery other weight reduction can make it more close to stock.

I think it would be a great idea. If you can get the hood to close. From what I've read the cam gears would come through the hood.

Shabib67 05-22-07 10:50 PM

I read that the 2jz-gte is only a 100lbs more heavier than the 13b i swear i read it on a thread in this forum.

Shabib67 05-22-07 10:51 PM

S1ignal do you have any idea how the fitment is going to be?

NOPR 05-23-07 07:53 AM


Originally Posted by Shabib67 (Post 6966137)
My goal is to swap in the 2jz-gte w/getrag 6 speed into the fd without having to cut or swap the subframe.

i hope you like gigantic cowl hoods and horrendous bumpsteer if the rack gets moved, which it almost certainly will.

also, from what I've found so far the 2jz-gte weights 490 pounds WITHOUT turbos or manifolds.

Shabib67 05-23-07 10:35 AM

^^Yea thats if i had to modify the subframe and do the install and project the way sp engineering did. However with a mount kit it will be possible to use a normal hood and retain the steering rack. I am still trying to find out from 2jzswap.com exactly how their mount kits work.

sao1 05-23-07 01:35 PM

I will be picking an FD soon, so i can put in the 2jzgte.

If we can further mind away to get the 3.13 gears on to the FD's rear end along with the V160, then that will be my ultimate swap.

jimlab 05-23-07 01:57 PM


Originally Posted by Shabib67 (Post 6968219)
I read that the 2jz-gte is only a 100lbs more heavier than the 13b i swear i read it on a thread in this forum.

A 13B-REW = ~430 lbs. and a 2JZ-GTE = 594 lbs., which is a difference of 164 lbs. The Getrag 6-speed is also ~40 lbs. heavier than the OEM 5-speed, so the net gain is about 200 lbs. A considerable amount of the extra engine weight will be in front of the axle centerline also.

jimlab 05-23-07 02:09 PM


Originally Posted by sao1 (Post 6970127)
If we can further mind away to get the 3.13 gears on to the FD's rear end along with the V160, then that will be my ultimate swap.

How about a set of 3.08s in a Ford Cobra 8.8" IRS differential?

I've already made that possible and now there are other people developing variations on the Cobra conversion parts. There's even a part number on The Driveshaft Shop's RX-7 page for the 300M hybrid axles. :)

RISEN 05-23-07 10:20 PM

Iron block is too powerful, but yet, too heavy. Do you want to go in a straight line only? ;)

NOPR 05-23-07 10:38 PM


Originally Posted by Shabib67 (Post 6969494)
However with a mount kit it will be possible to use a normal hood and retain the steering rack.

i call bullshit. there is no way the steering rack can stay in its exact spot without the hood being severely modified. Several people have claimed this but i have yet to see any real proof. A 20b, which is WAY shorter both in height and length BAREELLY clears and thats with a relocated alternator. maybe when they say they keep the rack, they use the stock rack its just moved four inches forward and 3 inches down.

jimlab 05-23-07 10:57 PM

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Originally Posted by NOPR (Post 6972042)
i call bullshit. there is no way the steering rack can stay in its exact spot without the hood being severely modified.

Dry sump? :p:


maybe when they say they keep the rack, they use the stock rack its just moved four inches forward and 3 inches down.
That's what SP Engineering did with the "Supra 7" and they still had to modify the hood with a cowl and other exciting bulges.

https://www.rx7club.com/attachment.p...1&d=1179979198

https://www.rx7club.com/attachment.p...1&d=1179979198

Apparently the car wandered so badly at the far end of the track that they decided it was too dangerous to drive, so it became "display only". :)

7passu 05-24-07 02:57 PM

you know they have the same problem with lifted trucks and all you have to do is extend down off the spidle to get the arms back straight......they also do this with mustangs with tublar k members.......i say just mod the pan.....can always make the pan wider in the back were it picks up the oil (like moroso does all the time)...........also has any one seen the cowl hood for the rx7 on juiced(ps2)?....looks like a hood for the c5 vett, i think looks good cause our cars look so much like them any way.......

Shabib67 05-24-07 07:50 PM

^you have a link for that hood?

Shabib67 05-24-07 07:54 PM


Originally Posted by RISEN (Post 6971977)
Iron block is too powerful, but yet, too heavy. Do you want to go in a straight line only? ;)

I dont think adding 200lbs is going to effect the handling that much to make it just a straight line car. Obviously it wont be as good as a FD with a 13B but with proper suspension setup and corner balancing it should still have some decent handling.

jimlab 05-24-07 08:19 PM


Originally Posted by 7passu (Post 6974351)
you know they have the same problem with lifted trucks and all you have to do is extend down off the spidle to get the arms back straight...

To compensate for minor movement of the steering rack. You can't drop the tie rod ends several inches, because A) it's dangerous, and B) it won't clear the wheel.


i say just mod the pan.....can always make the pan wider in the back were it picks up the oil (like moroso does all the time).......
I'd figure out what's holding down the period key on your keyboard and remove it.

jimlab 05-24-07 08:21 PM


Originally Posted by Shabib67 (Post 6975322)
I dont think adding 200lbs is going to effect the handling that much to make it just a straight line car.

I don't think you're a qualified chassis tuner, so I guess that makes us even.

sillbeer 05-24-07 10:53 PM


Originally Posted by jimlab (Post 6975413)
I don't think you're a qualified chassis tuner, so I guess that makes us even.

Jimlab, your the only reason I come to this forum anymore. Your responses are priceless.

-Destin

7passu 05-25-07 11:38 AM


Originally Posted by jimlab (Post 6975409)
To compensate for minor movement of the steering rack. You can't drop the tie rod ends several inches, because A) it's dangerous, and B) it won't clear the wheel.

I'd figure out what's holding down the period key on your keyboard and remove it.

^^^ well thanks for the tip ass

jimlab 05-25-07 11:58 AM


Originally Posted by 7passu (Post 6977209)
^^^ well thanks for the tip ass

You're welcome, shitferbrains. :bigthumb:

7passu 05-25-07 12:25 PM


Originally Posted by jimlab (Post 6977281)
You're welcome, shitferbrains. :bigthumb:

lol:lol:

Whizbang 05-25-07 12:32 PM

basic statics shows that WERE the weight is allow plays a huge role. The LS1 is light AND shorter so it really doesnt extend terrible far past the 13b engine. Whereas, the inline 3.0 is uber long and heavy as sin.


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