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Aaron Cake 06-20-11 10:01 AM


Originally Posted by just startn (Post 10671939)
Dude, scraping undercoating is the worst thing i have ever endured in my life. sucks sucks sucks. I scrapped it with a p-knife then wire wheeled it. Gosh it took so much time. will never ever ever do it again. Ill make a kerosene power washer before i scrape on that shit ever again. fml...it sucks.

I cleaned the entire underside of my RX-7 before I POR-15'd it and the only way I can describe it is "brutal". I took the majority off with a putty knife, then used lots of Kerosene to remove the residue, then loads of Super Clean to remove the Kerosene. Then any rusty spots needed to be wire wheeled. I think it took 3 weeks and I'll never do it again. Just not worth it unless you are going for a full show-ready resto. I think by the time I'm done with the Cosmo I'll have most of the undercoating removed anyway. It's less of an issue when it's done a little at a time.


Originally Posted by GregW (Post 10672502)
One of the shops I worked at years ago had a Kerosene fired pressure washer. If you cranked it up to hot the undercoating and quite a bit of the paint would just fall right off. Bigtime mess on the floor tho. I will own one of those pressure washers some day. Man they kick ass. But at ~$2k new its gonna be a while.

That sounds positively terrifying. Eastwood has some undercoating removal spray which is probably just Kerosene in a can or similar.


Originally Posted by silverfdturbo6port (Post 10672507)
love the humor and actually your motivating me to get my rx5 going lol accept here in my town we have a place that media blasts trailers and big stuff so i will strip the car down and have the whole car done

The only issue with that is that it needs to be epoxy-primed as soon as it is blasted. Otherwise, the panels will begin rusting immediately. That's one of the reasons I'm doing it a little at a time. You can see how much the floor has surface rusted since I blasted. Won't be an issue for POR-15, but would be for almost any other paint system. Not something I'd want to deal with on the body.

silverfdturbo6port 06-20-11 02:30 PM


Originally Posted by Aaron Cake (Post 10672903)


The only issue with that is that it needs to be epoxy-primed as soon as it is blasted. Otherwise, the panels will begin rusting immediately. That's one of the reasons I'm doing it a little at a time. You can see how much the floor has surface rusted since I blasted. Won't be an issue for POR-15, but would be for almost any other paint system. Not something I'd want to deal with on the body.

it depends on where you live and how dry it is.

g14novak 06-20-11 02:45 PM

http://foxed.ca/rx7manual/manuals/RX...ng,%201976.pdf

According to this wiring diagram, that box is a emission control unit. The other little one seems to be the wiper relay.

Somehow you make it entertaining to scrape undercoating off a car. Normally, I'd be skipping though the video, skimming through the talking and working. With these, I actually watch the whole thing. Great updates and great jokes to keep people into it. :lol:

silverfdturbo6port 06-20-11 09:29 PM


Originally Posted by g14novak (Post 10673286)



Somehow you make it entertaining to scrape undercoating off a car. Normally, I'd be skipping though the video, skimming through the talking and working. With these, I actually watch the whole thing. Great updates and great jokes to keep people into it. :lol:

same here it was good to see what i will be tearing into. I have lots of rust to deal with also :( but i have 4 rx5 cosmos as parts cars to choose my parts and panels thank god

Aaron Cake 06-25-11 10:00 AM


Originally Posted by silverfdturbo6port (Post 10673264)
it depends on where you live and how dry it is.

True enough. Around here humidity is always fairly high, so it only takes a day or so before the metal starts becoming tinted with rust. Also careful of hand prints, because anywhere you touch will rust up within a few hours. I'm still undecided whether I will re-blast the floor before I POR-15 it. Not really necessary to do so, but it pays to be thorough.


Originally Posted by g14novak (Post 10673286)
http://foxed.ca/rx7manual/manuals/RX...ng,%201976.pdf
According to this wiring diagram, that box is a emission control unit. The other little one seems to be the wiper relay.

The others were labelled, so not too much mystery there. :) I took a look at the diagram a few hours after I posted the video and confirmed that it was the ECU. Seems to only control the solenoids, choke, ignition cut and a few other engine bits, so it's going in the parts bin and the bracket will be used for the Megasquirt (and associated relays and fuses).


Somehow you make it entertaining to scrape undercoating off a car. Normally, I'd be skipping though the video, skimming through the talking and working. With these, I actually watch the whole thing. Great updates and great jokes to keep people into it. :lol:
I had only intended to show about 30 seconds of scraping, but as I was editing the footage I found that talked a lot during filming so I didn't want to lose those words of wisdom. ;)


Originally Posted by silverfdturbo6port (Post 10673897)
same here it was good to see what i will be tearing into. I have lots of rust to deal with also :( but i have 4 rx5 cosmos as parts cars to choose my parts and panels thank god

4 parts cars, eh? Well, you'll be getting a PM from me fairly soon (or rather, I'll reply to the one you sent about the housings). :D How the hell did you end up with 4? I've only ever seen one. :)

JerryLH3 06-28-11 10:02 PM

I don't often venture into the Old School Section, but I'm glad I did a couple weeks ago. Since then I've caught up with the Cosmo Sport restoration thread that I lost track of ages ago, and I've now watched all of your videos from start to where you are now on your Cosmo RX-5 restoration. By the way, my son (six months old) loves them. It must be the sound of power tools, plus he loves the intro.

You are very thorough Aaron, and I expect that will show through in the finished project. I've enjoyed watching all of the videos and have even picked up a few tips and ideas that will help me in my RX-7 TII restoration. Keep up the good work, and I look forward to seeing the progress.

stevensimon 06-29-11 03:27 PM

need updates

Aaron Cake 07-01-11 10:32 AM

What, updates, already? :)

A lot has been keeping me away from the shop lately but when I have been able to get there, I've been just doing sheet metal. Having the floor still looking like Swiss Cheese is bothering me so I've been fixing it up a little. I'll likely just bank all that footage and do a whole floor episode.

On the plus side, I've basically discovered all the rust at this point.

GregW 07-01-11 11:44 PM

Just got lost in this thread for an hour, way cool stuff, figured it applied so here it is.

http://www.fordbarn.com/forum/showthread.php?t=23323

1973rx3 07-02-11 12:19 AM


Originally Posted by GregW (Post 10688925)
Just got lost in this thread for an hour, way cool stuff, figured it applied so here it is.

http://www.fordbarn.com/forum/showthread.php?t=23323

Wow! Left me speechless! Guy has got some talent!

Aaron Cake 07-02-11 10:09 AM


Originally Posted by GregW (Post 10688925)
Just got lost in this thread for an hour, way cool stuff, figured it applied so here it is.
http://www.fordbarn.com/forum/showthread.php?t=23323

Oh good, there's another few hours of reading I don't have time for. ;)

Thanks for the link! It's always nice to see the work of someone who actually knows what they are doing with sheet metal (unlike myself, who just bungles through it).

silverfdturbo6port 07-03-11 02:11 AM


Originally Posted by GregW (Post 10688925)
Just got lost in this thread for an hour, way cool stuff, figured it applied so here it is.

http://www.fordbarn.com/forum/showthread.php?t=23323

good thread i am in your same boat aaron with my cosmo although i have it worse :( and i have never fixed rust like this before :blush:

Aaron Cake 07-03-11 10:04 AM

So I read that thread. At least he had the luxury of being able to buy patch panels! Plus of course many years of prior experience.

just startn 07-03-11 03:25 PM


Originally Posted by Aaron Cake (Post 10690146)
So I read that thread. At least he had the luxury of being able to buy patch panels! Plus of course many years of prior experience.

yea, buying the patch panel always makes it go so much smoother. Now think if you had to make all the character lines and shit. Wish they mad panels for 7's, would make my life a hell of alot easier

antiSUV 07-03-11 08:15 PM

That Flop guy is pretty famous on The HAMB. He's done some amazing work.

Aaron Cake 07-05-11 10:04 AM


Originally Posted by just startn (Post 10690462)
yea, buying the patch panel always makes it go so much smoother. Now think if you had to make all the character lines and shit. Wish they mad panels for 7's, would make my life a hell of alot easier

Most of the RX-7 sheet metal is still available at Mazda, in my experience. Bought quarters, fenders, rockers and a few other bits here and there. Actually now that you mention it, I should buy new rear quarters for my 2nd gen, just so I have them when I'm ready to fix the rust.

DOHC Vobra 07-05-11 02:04 PM

Aaron, thanks so much for the videos...I'm learning a ton watching them!!

One quick question, I'm looking at getting a parts washer to begin cleaning up parts on my 93 as I tear it apart. I've noticed that you can get water/non-water based solvent. What kind of stuff are you using in your parts washer? Do you know if the water based stuff is any good?

Thanks!
Justin

just startn 07-06-11 10:17 AM


Originally Posted by Aaron Cake (Post 10692311)
Most of the RX-7 sheet metal is still available at Mazda, in my experience. Bought quarters, fenders, rockers and a few other bits here and there. Actually now that you mention it, I should buy new rear quarters for my 2nd gen, just so I have them when I'm ready to fix the rust.

I tried to buy quarters, door skins, whole doors for the vert.... Local mazda dealer said theres no such thing anymore. I took it as your a fucking idiot...called malloy mazda, they tried every possible way to find the parts i need and no go.

just startn 07-06-11 10:22 AM


Originally Posted by DOHC Vobra (Post 10692673)
Aaron, thanks so much for the videos...I'm learning a ton watching them!!

One quick question, I'm looking at getting a parts washer to begin cleaning up parts on my 93 as I tear it apart. I've noticed that you can get water/non-water based solvent. What kind of stuff are you using in your parts washer? Do you know if the water based stuff is any good?

Thanks!
Justin

Buy a "industrial" parts washer if your looking into buying one. Or buy a industrial parts washer pump. I have 2 that have plastic pumps...well were plastic pumps. The ancient industrial one i have still has the same fluid in it for 15yrs or more. In my parts washers i just run K1/diesel/whatever else. The "newer" parts washer solvents suck ass. EPA blows

Aaron Cake 07-07-11 10:07 AM


Originally Posted by DOHC Vobra (Post 10692673)
Aaron, thanks so much for the videos...I'm learning a ton watching them!!
One quick question, I'm looking at getting a parts washer to begin cleaning up parts on my 93 as I tear it apart. I've noticed that you can get water/non-water based solvent. What kind of stuff are you using in your parts washer? Do you know if the water based stuff is any good?

I use a solvent called "Dunk" that is non-water based. It smells a lot like kerosene and comes in a 4 litre jug. It is water soluable so it is easy to wash the part off afterwards. Honestly, all of the water based cleaners I have tried suck. The heavy solvents are what's needed to remove years of baked on crud. The follow it up with a degreaser like Super Clean cut with water, and then finally a scrub with regular old dish soap and water.


Originally Posted by just startn (Post 10693980)
I tried to buy quarters, door skins, whole doors for the vert.... Local mazda dealer said theres no such thing anymore. I took it as your a fucking idiot...called malloy mazda, they tried every possible way to find the parts i need and no go.

Weird. I wonder if it's a 'vert issue? Did you have part numbers?

just startn 07-07-11 11:46 AM


Originally Posted by Aaron Cake (Post 10695554)
Weird. I wonder if it's a 'vert issue? Did you have part numbers?

No i didnt have a part number. Idk were to get one at, or even how to get one. Malloy says they can't even find anything like that.

Aaron Cake 07-08-11 09:22 AM

You can find the body and chassis parts catalogs here:
http://www.mazdaspeeddevelopment.com...s/rx7pubs.html

A very valuable resource when ordering sheet metal as it has the parts for every stamping on the car. How much of it is still available, I don't know. But I've had good luck ordering common parts like rockers, fenders and quarters. Granted that was about 10 years ago when I painted the RX-7.

DOHC Vobra 07-08-11 09:26 AM


Originally Posted by Aaron Cake (Post 10695554)
I use a solvent called "Dunk" that is non-water based. It smells a lot like kerosene and comes in a 4 litre jug. It is water soluable so it is easy to wash the part off afterwards. Honestly, all of the water based cleaners I have tried suck. The heavy solvents are what's needed to remove years of baked on crud. The follow it up with a degreaser like Super Clean cut with water, and then finally a scrub with regular old dish soap and water.

Thanks Aaron, I'll definitely avoid the water based stuff!

Justin

stevensimon 07-15-11 03:31 PM

ok aaron, its been practically a month.

your fans are starting to jeer.

Ball joint 07-20-11 03:32 PM

Yeah, Aaron. More videos please!


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