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rx7_FREAKKK 03-14-12 11:24 AM

Time to Ditch stock Clutch fan?
 
Anyone have Improved City Driving with Electric VS Stock clutch fan? Agian my car is stranded. First is was the Altranator NOW its the fan clutch. Just Spins. Just friggin wont END. I figure i Replace a part every week or two.

I was looking at electric fans at the Junkyard. The Thunderbird Electric fan looks like a monster. But anyone Know if it will fit? I have read a few threads stating the Mazda MPV Fans i think it was fit like a glove. If i am not Mistaken,

I Been running warm for a week or two and Thought it was the thermostat. but I go up a hill. and it runs warm. Cant burn out my New Engine. that would friggin suck..

If anyone has a Fan sitting around. Let me know. I am BROKE for a week or so. So im friggin STUCK

stilettoman 03-14-12 12:08 PM

My advice is get another clutch fan. I see them all the time at Pick-n-pull, doesn't seem to be much demand for them. I had lots of trial and error with the cooling in my V8 powered FB, finally solved it with a stock FB fan, driven directly (no clutch). That is not recommended with a rotary because of the high rpm. It is unlikely you will get as much airflow with an electric fan, although certain years of Thunderbird fans are indeed claimed to be the best.

I have owned a LOT of RX-7s in the past 30 years, only had one clutch fan go bad that I can recall.

I cannot offer to help because I have no clue as to where you live.

rx7_FREAKKK 03-14-12 01:14 PM


Originally Posted by stilettoman (Post 11016868)
My advice is get another clutch fan. I see them all the time at Pick-n-pull, doesn't seem to be much demand for them. I had lots of trial and error with the cooling in my V8 powered FB, finally solved it with a stock FB fan, driven directly (no clutch). That is not recommended with a rotary because of the high rpm. It is unlikely you will get as much airflow with an electric fan, although certain years of Thunderbird fans are indeed claimed to be the best.

I have owned a LOT of RX-7s in the past 30 years, only had one clutch fan go bad that I can recall.

I cannot offer to help because I have no clue as to where you live.

I think your Right. Infact. My 69 olds rocket 350 had a direct Drive. That thing Pulled air like a hurricane .

rx7_FREAKKK 03-14-12 03:28 PM


Originally Posted by rx7_FREAKKK (Post 11016932)
I think your Right. Infact. My 69 olds rocket 350 had a direct Drive. That thing Pulled air like a hurricane .

I cheated and jammed mine up so the clutch is frozen. She runs cool now

TweakGames 03-14-12 06:32 PM

Terrible idea.


Originally Posted by rx7_FREAKKK (Post 11016826)
I figure i Replace a part every week or two.

Wonder why.

rx7_FREAKKK 03-14-12 07:25 PM


Originally Posted by TweakGames (Post 11017221)
Terrible idea.



Wonder why.

Don't start your bs with me. You know these cars are high maintenance. You dont even got a Rotary in your Rx7. So you have no room to start anything with me. WHY do you stick around in a rotary Forum? Why dont you go to the Piston Zit Poppin forum

leftcoastdrifter 03-14-12 07:49 PM


Originally Posted by rx7_FREAKKK (Post 11017282)
Don't start your bs with me. You know these cars are high maintenance. You dont even got a Rotary in your Rx7. So you have no room to start anything with me. WHY do you stick around in a rotary Forum? Why dont you go to the Piston Zit Poppin forum

Don't get him started :banghead:

V6 GM Fiero fan works great. Height wise it's perfect but it leaves about a inch gap on each of the sides. I've had mine on for 5 years, two of which I lived in Sacramento, Ca. and had no real issues. There's a WHOLE THREAD dedicated to this subject if you just use the search engine.

woundup7 03-14-12 08:04 PM

That is odd you would over heat or run warm. Fan is pretty much moot at anything above 35mph, as ram air take over the cooling duties, figure in the really low ambient temperature running warm shouldn't be an issue. You may have only gremlins at work.

TweakGames 03-14-12 08:08 PM

Mine isn't high maintenance at all. :beard:

woundup7 03-14-12 08:12 PM


Originally Posted by TweakGames (Post 11017339)
Mine isn't high maintenance at all. :lol:

After 50 plus years of building nearly the same engine, even the General could figure it out.

TweakGames 03-14-12 08:17 PM

The rotary engine was invented by a German named Felix Wankel in 1957.

turbojeff 03-14-12 08:34 PM

Most electric fans are too small and if you get a correctly sized one they usually aren't installed or wired in properly.

If you can do those steps correctly then go for it.

It is a bad idea to run the fan directly, it will lower your mileage and kill the top end power. Dads Olds didn't turn 7k rpms...

I have never seen a *fan clutch* on a RX7 go bad. Should be able to find one easy.

woundup7 03-14-12 08:52 PM


Originally Posted by TweakGames (Post 11017353)
The rotary engine was invented by a German named Felix Wankel in 1957.

I was actually talking about your SBC

rx7_FREAKKK 03-14-12 09:36 PM


Originally Posted by TweakGames (Post 11017353)
The rotary engine was invented by a German named Felix Wankel in 1957.


No shit? I did not know that. I thought it was a fucking alien from area 51 in fucking 1947.

TweakGames 03-14-12 10:59 PM

:lol:

Derekcat 03-15-12 12:03 AM

…Really? Again?
lol... Guys..

rx7_FREAKKK >> Get a clutch fan, it'll probably be the last fan you'll ever need for it. :)

MrGoodnight 03-15-12 01:46 AM

Love these threads.

rx7_FREAKKK 03-15-12 03:36 PM


Originally Posted by MrGoodnight (Post 11017728)
Love these threads.

Nah iv had it. I have no choice but to Ditch this Fan clutch BS. They want 150-170 for a Fan clutch From the parts store. That's Bullsht..


Anyone With an Electric fan laying Around? Give me some quote's if you want

hornbm 03-15-12 03:49 PM

I converted to a black magic electric fan on my FB when I had it. Worked great. I think it was rated around 2200CFM or so, but I forget the model number. The car definitely revved better. the thermostat control on the black magic fan also worked great.

TweakGames 03-15-12 04:11 PM


Originally Posted by rx7_FREAKKK (Post 11017092)
I cheated and jammed mine up so the clutch is frozen. She runs cool now


Originally Posted by rx7_FREAKKK (Post 11018333)
Nah iv had it. I have no choice but to Ditch this Fan clutch BS. They want 150-170 for a Fan clutch From the parts store. That's Bullsht..


Anyone With an Electric fan laying Around? Give me some quote's if you want


Didn't work well? What happened? :scratch: :blush:

Blackfc3srx7 03-15-12 05:18 PM

As others stated check a junkyard or the for sale section since 170 is high.
I got an electric fan from the local junk yard but haven't put it on since the lack of power my alternator can put out. This is reason why many still stick with the clutch fan. But I would get once second hand instead of paying 170 personally.

rx7_FREAKKK 03-15-12 06:08 PM


Originally Posted by TweakGames (Post 11018359)
Didn't work well? What happened? :scratch: :blush:

It worked. But I cant drive like i want. I cant rev it. the belt slips, But i knew that before i did it

rx7_FREAKKK 03-15-12 06:11 PM


Originally Posted by Blackfc3srx7 (Post 11018432)
As others stated check a junkyard or the for sale section since 170 is high.
I got an electric fan from the local junk yard but haven't put it on since the lack of power my alternator can put out. This is reason why many still stick with the clutch fan. But I would get once second hand instead of paying 170 personally.

True. Electric Fan means it would be smart to upgrade to a bigger ALT> But that is also getting Into another can of worms

microdrifter001 03-15-12 06:55 PM

this thread hurts the brain. you should use a stock fan.

TweakGames 03-15-12 07:02 PM

Wasn't fun sound like a dump truck after 3,000 rpm? :lol: I'm sure your bearings loved the perfectly balanced fan.

Your alternator should be fine unless you use a power hungry fan like a taurus. The real issue is you need a nice strong real relay, fuses, real wiring, a water temp switch, and the knowledge of how to wire it up. Or you can put a switch in there and be in charge of turning it off and on manually, either wasting electrical and engine power at speed, or risking not turning it on when it gets hot blowing a coolant seal.

Ooooorrrrrr you can find a stock fan that someone has taken off and discarded for free or cheap and fix it like you should for once.


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