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Old May 22, 2009 | 08:15 PM
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New toys and new #'s

i got my Power FC + cmdr today along with some new plugs and wires. we used the base maps so no real tunning yet but the differance was amazing. well at least to me. LOL

Full Stock with Factory tune was:
191 rwhp and 168 ftlbs torque

Power FC, Spark Plugs + Wires:
210rwhp and 195 ftlbs torque

So just replacing some electronics and a new ECU i have a gain of 19 rwhp and 27 ftlbs of torque. So this has kind of got me wondering has to just how much gain i can get JUST by replacing or upgrading my electronics.
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Old May 22, 2009 | 09:58 PM
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Could easily be attributed to tired ignition components. It's very important when making power. It's pretty simple. What good is all that fuel if you can't burn it?

BTW that's REALLY GOOD torque

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Old May 22, 2009 | 11:59 PM
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What kind of dyno did you use?
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Old May 23, 2009 | 12:50 AM
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You stock numbers seemed low, but great to see your gain with the PowerFC, Plugs & Wires. Just out of curiosity, what plug wires did you go with? and did you go with stock 7s & 9s for your plugs?
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Old May 24, 2009 | 03:43 PM
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oh know it was the plugs that were deffinantly tired they where nothing but nubs when i looked at them. i didnt think it was that simple at the time. but after i saw the differance it got me thinking as to what other eletronics that have to do with the engin might be tired as well. its nice to here from more expirenced people that some of my #'s are going in the right direction. lol

dont know what kind of dyno it is.lol

i know im using NGK plugs and i believe it is the 7s and 9s. the wires i believe are NGK also.

so to continue with my little expirement. i think my next step might be a boost controler, okada plasma booster, new coils. is there any other electronics that have a direct influace on my engin as far ignition system and controlers that i may have missed?
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Old May 25, 2009 | 12:25 AM
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As well as electronics, it may be interesting to understand the fuel system, since if you are running rich or have a leaky injector, that will just found the plugs again soon. NGK is fine stuff, no use paying ridiculous prices for your current setup.

What are you miles? stock (clogged?) cat? Achieving stock boost pattern (10-8-10)? More info would be helpful.
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Old May 25, 2009 | 02:52 AM
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nice sweet job and good numbers.
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Old May 25, 2009 | 08:11 AM
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Originally Posted by themcneal
As well as electronics, it may be interesting to understand the fuel system, since if you are running rich or have a leaky injector, that will just found the plugs again soon. NGK is fine stuff, no use paying ridiculous prices for your current setup.

What are you miles? stock (clogged?) cat? Achieving stock boost pattern (10-8-10)? More info would be helpful.

before this i was 100% stock. factory tune everything. i dont think this thing has been worked on since it was made. lol miles are 71000 boost pattern is still 10-8-10 so far that i know. sorry i dont know what kind of info will help. exhaust is stock, cat stock( maybe even origenal)
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Old May 25, 2009 | 08:40 PM
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10-8-10 boost pattern and stock is a great start, so you don't have to trouble shoot all the other PITA things that can cause boost problems.

Not sure how much other electronics may get you, it depends on what electronics you were thinking. What else were you thinking? ignition system, etc.?
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Old May 25, 2009 | 09:03 PM
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boost control, and looking for new ignition system but still doing research. and then the final tune before the bolt ons start.
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Old May 26, 2009 | 03:56 AM
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just woundering i am new/getting in to the turbo world but with the fd's i have seen a few ppl talking about the 10-8-10 but what does that mean?
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Old May 26, 2009 | 12:02 PM
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Boost pattern for 3rd gen US spec stock turbos, Efini (99 Spec) have 14-12-14 I think or somewhere around there
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Old May 26, 2009 | 05:43 PM
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will the 99spec twins fit on a 95?
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Old May 26, 2009 | 05:59 PM
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Yes they will, it's just a different cartridge basically (slightly more airflow) and I am pretty sure stock boost levels are 12psi on th 99 specs. Cuz that's what it was on BlueShift's car with stock cat and he had 99 twins. As far as practicality goes and bang for your buck, get the BNR 3's cuz they are very close to the same price as the 99's, but much more efficient and capable of higher power levels.

PLEASE wait on the boost controller until you have opened up your exhaust. Your increased boost won't be efficient and will only cause heat to build up and you'll lose power from heat soak. You will be surprised at the difference a downpipe, hi flow cat, and catback will make. It's like driving a whole new car. Boost controller should be the least of your worries. If you want to help out your ignition an HKS ignition amplication unit would be a great addition to your car. For some reason my brain isn't working right now and I can't process the name of it... I should kick my own *** cuz I'm an HKS frrrrrrrreak. Twin Power there we go it just hit me, get an HKS Twin Power and that will help your spark, replace your coils for sure at your mileage. And like I said increase your intake and exhaust flow, let your engine breathe, be fore you add a boost controller.
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Old May 26, 2009 | 09:00 PM
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do you know if the HKS twin power is compatable with the A-pexi Power FC? i just read the HKS site and they dont garentee compatability.
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Old May 27, 2009 | 04:24 PM
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screw a hi flow cat, straight pipe that beez
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Old May 27, 2009 | 04:49 PM
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do you know if the HKS twin power is compatable with the A-pexi Power FC? i just read the HKS site and they dont garentee compatability.
It works fine, a lot of people run that combination. (mine too)
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Old May 28, 2009 | 11:28 PM
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cool thats great. im still doing some research on coils and ignition systems. looking at msd and trying to find some others out there.
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Old May 28, 2009 | 11:45 PM
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Leave the FD alone in its mint shape. Nothing beats buying a Super sport bike and hauling *** on corners and thinking to your self why you never did this to begin with.
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Old May 29, 2009 | 06:37 PM
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Originally Posted by AsianFlip06
Leave the FD alone in its mint shape. Nothing beats buying a Super sport bike and hauling *** on corners and thinking to your self why you never did this to begin with.

DOH To Late....lol still thinking on the suksuzi hyabusa
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Leave the FD alone in its mint shape. Nothing beats buying a Super sport bike and hauling *** on corners and thinking to your self why you never did this to begin with.
FYI, no bike will ever be as fast through a corner as a car can. Two words, contact patch. Power to weight is great, but it has it's limits. Once you can't put that power to the ground it's no longer fun, or fast for that matter.
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Old May 30, 2009 | 02:02 PM
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still wouldnt mind having a bike though. its just right now id rather put the money into the car.
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Old May 30, 2009 | 09:22 PM
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Hey you still have the 1300cc motor. So it's "like" owning a bike
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Old May 30, 2009 | 09:52 PM
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LOL... thats one way to look at it.
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gas station attendants always ask me if i have a motorcycle engine in my car. Not sure if its the sound or the pre mixing that gets them wondering.
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