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Edgar Garcia 03-22-23 09:06 PM

white smoke
 
hey guy I have a rx7 1988 when I turn her on she blows white smoke alot I think it might be the apex seals but I dont feel less power but I also think it could be my coolant seals on my engine. Could someone help me out

Molotovman 03-23-23 05:33 AM


Originally Posted by Edgar Garcia (Post 12553714)
hey guy I have a rx7 1988 when I turn her on she blows white smoke alot I think it might be the apex seals but I dont feel less power but I also think it could be my coolant seals on my engine. Could someone help me out

You need an engine rebuild, any experienced mechanic should be able to diagnose that as coolant seal failure.

hoofhearted 03-25-23 12:59 PM

White smoke usually means one may have a water seal leak. Blue smoke usually means burnt oil possibly Apex seals. Yours does not sound like Apex seal failure to me.

AlWanga 03-26-23 11:25 PM

I had the same issue, the longer it sat between starting the more white smoke it would poor out. I pulled the engine down and it was a coolant leak. If yours is doing the same then you should look into coolant leak issues.

Laura78 03-28-23 03:27 AM

rebuild the engine

DR_Knight 03-28-23 11:07 AM


Originally Posted by Laura78 (Post 12554343)
rebuild the engine

meaning you’ll tear down the engine and see what’s usable and will probably need at least one new or used iron.

diabolical1 03-31-23 08:18 AM

welcome to the board. :)

as has been said already, it's probably your coolant seals.

other things to use to confirm are:
- coolant loss (with or without signs of a leak),
- sweet-smelling exhaust while smoking,
- excess pressure in the cooling system while the engine is running,
- exhaust (combustion products) in the coolant,
- coolant in the chambers (remove the exhaust manifold and turn the engine by hand),
- coolant in your oil and/or vice versa.

keep in mind, they don't all have to be present.

ATC529R 03-31-23 09:00 AM

wait... I had an FC with 170k. would smoke like the devil when you first started it up.... ran strong...even the rx7 guy I sold it to was impressed.

oil rings I think i was tp;d...but it had no bearing on the engine other than burning some oil.

DR_Knight 03-31-23 06:35 PM


Originally Posted by ATC529R (Post 12554775)
wait... I had an FC with 170k. would smoke like the devil when you first started it up.... ran strong...even the rx7 guy I sold it to was impressed.

oil rings I think i was tp;d...but it had no bearing on the engine other than burning some oil.

I understand why you said this, but this is not the same trade-off scenario. Burning oil is less detrimental than burning coolant. Burning coolant can obviously lead to overheating, but also deterioration of the irons. Either a coolant seal has broken and/or the iron has worn/eroded.

Even when building an engine, compression seal gaps can be loosened to allow for higher temps and power in trade off for burning oil.

Sure the engine might smoke like crazy when cold with blown coolant seals, then stop smoking when warm and still have the same power level, but internal deterioration is occurring. The same is not said about oil seals.

I just wanted to make this clear to not mislead the OP.

ATC529R 03-31-23 08:09 PM


Originally Posted by DR_Knight (Post 12554849)
I understand why you said this, but this is not the same trade-off scenario. Burning oil is less detrimental than burning coolant. Burning coolant can obviously lead to overheating, but also deterioration of the irons. Either a coolant seal has broken and/or the iron has worn/eroded.

Even when building an engine, compression seal gaps can be loosened to allow for higher temps and power in trade off for burning oil.

Sure the engine might smoke like crazy when cold with blown coolant seals, then stop smoking when warm and still have the same power level, but internal deterioration is occurring. The same is not said about oil seals.

I just wanted to make this clear to not mislead the OP.

coolant leak is no joke, but I have not seen him say he is loosing coolant.

does the smoke go away after warmed up?

gsmithrx7 04-22-24 08:43 PM

Tons of white smoke
 
Hi, the first time white smoke occurred on my 88 GXL was when I first had a flooding issue.

After finally starting, there was so much white smoke that it poured out of my garage and drifted down the street!

The next time it occurred was at the Mazda dealership when trying to restart my car after doing some maintenance, white smoke filled the entire shop area!

After many years it occurred to me that the only thing that causes white smoke is "coolant".

So, somehow when trying to restart the engine and it floods due to low compression, that pushing on the throttle pedal somehow gets the sub-zero system to inject it's 90/10 antifreeze mix into the engine!

My thoughts are that if the engine starts normally and you have white smoke, there is a minor coolant seal leak that occurs after engine shutdown. A heat soak condition that pushes some coolant into the engine after shutdown if there is a small failure in the coolant seals.



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