Originally Posted by Blackwulfkiba
(Post 10861894)
I was always wondering about seafoam and I would rather trust your words than a newbs! is there a particular amount of gas that has to be in the car?
As long as there is at least 1/4 tank it will run fine. Stronger, even. |
^^^that sounds about right
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Ever try "Mopar combustion chamber cleaner"? It works much better then Seafoam and it is very oil which may be better for a rotory engine. You spray it in the intake manifold while the engine is idling until it stalls, and then let it sit for a 1/2 hour. When you fire it up it will smoke for a 1/2 hour until all the loosened up carbon burns off. Works good! You can pick some up at a Chrysler dealer.
http://mechdb.com/index.php/Mopar_co...hamber_cleaner |
I have used it to great success
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i have heard about the mopar clearner as well there are great right ups on ls1 tech about it. i went ahead and sea foam on my stock ss with no probs through the brake booster and pcv line. let it sit 20mins and crank it back up. does a good job of cleaning cylinders, then drive normal untill the remaining smoke clears.
as for rotary's i you tubed a clip of an rx8 getting same treatment seemed to do well in cleaning out the engine. i will try in my jpec t2 swap soon. |
I've heard people that have had very good luck, I would probably not recommend it with a rotary for reasons I'm sure you know (lubrication of the apex seals and what not) does anyone know if you can use it on 2-strokes? If it would be ok for 2-strokes, my guess it would probably be ok. Are you just using it for maintenance or is there another reason you want to use it?
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If you read the bottle of sea foam you can see the directions of uses. I am running a bottle through my 90 na vert right now, through the gas tank. I want to run a bottle through a vacum so could someone take a pic of the vac. Hose your supposed to run it through, or should I run it through the brake booster hose. And also if you run it through the fuel tank when it goes through,the injectors its being sprayed into the intake manifold befor getting to the combustion chamber right (correct me if im wron) so its cleaning injectors and intake.
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Just foamed my 96 base last night, has 147K on the ticker. Sucked 1/3 of it through a vac line and poured the remainder in the oil.
It changed the high spuratic idle down to normal but other than that I can't tell a difference yet. |
Originally Posted by Karack
(Post 10841709)
water is cheaper and probably does more.
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My car has a misfire I replaced the coil packs plugs and wires would seefoam help with my misfire. Im wonderin if there is a lot of carbon build up. Or any suggestions would be awesome
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Originally Posted by Aaron Cake
(Post 10838396)
Why? Why waste money on any additive of dubious benefit? The vast majority of vehicles on the road never have any of this junk tossed into their fuel, yet seem to function perfectly well.
When an OEM starts recommending the use of any of these additives, then it may be something to look at. Otherwise, just keep the vehicle in good tune and have the injectors professionally cleaned every 100K or so. |
For those of you wanting to know how to run seafoam through your vacuum lines, please watch the following:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PdIGJbUJdv0 |
What's the feeling on using this in a turbo motor?
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Originally Posted by Motormouth759
(Post 10871306)
What's the feeling on using this in a turbo motor?
first thign I do when I buy a used car is look inside the valve cover then seafoam the crap outa it if theres the slightest gunk.. oil change within 100 miles if done in the crank. and some custom gas if I put it in the tank. (1 gallon toulene/1 gallon De-alcohol/5 gallons gas.) Sucking half a can down the intake tract usually solves any stickyness inside the intake. |
So no putting in oil on turbo cars but gas tank and a vaccum line should be ok you feel?
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And what about piston turbo cars such as my daily vr4 galant
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Unless the motor is relatively new, I would strongly advise against putting Seafoam (or any other type of cleaner) in the oil. All you will end up doing is removing buildup from the seals (which is currently assisting with the sealing) and end up leaking or burning oil.
The smoke show caused by sucking it in through a vacuum line is pretty spectacular. If you want to put on a show, then go for it. But that white cloud is the product that you just paid ten bucks for, being shot straight out the exhaust. Nothing but a waste of money in my opinion. And again, if you are going to have a problem using Seafoam, it will happen with this type of application. Keep it simple, put it in the gas tank and drive the darned car. |
Originally Posted by Motormouth759
(Post 10871342)
And what about piston turbo cars such as my daily vr4 galant
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All OEMs sell a product like Seafoam. Not a waste at all. We at GM recommend using it, as do other manufacturers.
Originally Posted by Aaron Cake
(Post 10838396)
Why? Why waste money on any additive of dubious benefit? The vast majority of vehicles on the road never have any of this junk tossed into their fuel, yet seem to function perfectly well.
When an OEM starts recommending the use of any of these additives, then it may be something to look at. Otherwise, just keep the vehicle in good tune and have the injectors professionally cleaned every 100K or so. |
It is also part of BMW's standard maintenance to add a fuel system cleaner at certain mileage points. Audi does the same as well. :)
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Seafoam is an extreamlly powerful solvent. Sucking this juice through a vaccum line or pouring it in direclty with the oil should be down at your own risk(turbo cars especially) It will clean out the motor, and dry out your system. Rotaries were disigned to burned oil in the combustion chamber.<<<Think reduced lubrication.
If you chose to seafoam anything other than the gas tank, an oil change would be highly reccomended after the "cool smoke" weres off. Dump it in the gas tank, i see no problem. As soon as it leaves the combustion chamber the solvent has done its purpose and is removed from the system. Hence the oil change if you chose the first two methods i mentioned. The solvent will continue to circulate in the system. Hope this helps. Don't bash me because my post count is low. Thanks for looking. |
Interesting! Do you have data to support your theory?
Originally Posted by EvoLeoIX
(Post 10873906)
Seafoam is an extreamlly powerful solvent. Sucking this juice through a vaccum line or pouring it in direclty with the oil should be down at your own risk(turbo cars especially) It will clean out the motor, and dry out your system. Rotaries were disigned to burned oil in the combustion chamber.<<<Think reduced lubrication.
If you chose to seafoam anything other than the gas tank, an oil change would be highly reccomended after the "cool smoke" weres off. Dump it in the gas tank, i see no problem. As soon as it leaves the combustion chamber the solvent has done its purpose and is removed from the system. Hence the oil change if you chose the first two methods i mentioned. The solvent will continue to circulate in the system. Hope this helps. Don't bash me because my post count is low. Thanks for looking. |
I've used seafoam on my NA accord and then developed most of the info from using the product of my mitsubishi evolution.(turbocharged 2.0)
The use of this product is widely known and skeptics have posted many a threads on if its safe for thier applications. My advise is to change your oil a short period after the product is used in the oil or vaccum line. No oil change necessary if you put it in your tank. To answer your question, there is no empirical data I have used, just trial and error. Learning from others mistakes. Thanks for your concerns and I hope this debunks some of the stigma about this product. |
I feel kentetsu is correct in his findings. Cheers all.
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Originally Posted by Aaron Cake
(Post 10838396)
Why? Why waste money on any additive of dubious benefit?
I would argue that you either don't know what "dubious" means or you have never tried Seafoam... maybe you have never had a reason to try it. I would recommend giving it a try some time. I have used it and for certain issues is has worked great. Of course it depends on the issue. As for the question, I would look HERE. Obviously, our application is not listed but if you look at the answers...you either add it to the fuel or add it to the oil. |
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