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Mattyno 10-01-13 12:06 AM

RX7 FD water in engine
 
Hello,

In October, I bought a RX7 FD from Britain. In 2009 the company made overhaul ​​in the UK , yet not mention the company name.
The car I drove approx. 1000 km. Before each ride, I checked the oil and water level. I had to water regularly topped up using about. 0.2 l. Car doesn´t smoked and started well, so I paid no attention.
During a car ride I got to 120 degrees Celsius. I immediately shut down and waited for her to cool down. I refilled one liter of water and slowly wandered into the garage. The temperature was kept throughout the 86 degrees celsius.
At home, I took off the exhaust manifold and the hand spinning rotor. From the combustion chamber spilled water. Pressures measured and are good.
I motor slowly demount. Do you think it will be bad just water seal? The oil doesn´t loosing.
Sorry for my bad english.

WTF :lol:?
http://img571.imageshack.us/img571/5550/krca.jpg

Reducing oil flow to turbo?
http://img46.imageshack.us/img46/6084/m2oi.jpg

http://img812.imageshack.us/img812/1269/ofu7.jpg

http://img191.imageshack.us/img191/3843/it12.jpg


With my ST185
http://img855.imageshack.us/img855/820/txsz.jpg

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Sgtblue 10-01-13 04:56 AM

Jak se mas? Don't worry about your English, it's better than some posts here from those with English as a first language. And way better than my Czech.

You have a coolant seal failure which will require disassembly of the engine. I would suggest not waiting too long to fix it. Having coolant sit in the grooves of the side plates can cause rust and make the side plates unusable.
You might look up a member named Metan here on the forum. He's also from the Czech Republic and may be able to help you find a reliable mechanic or give advice with the rebuild.

Mattyno 10-07-13 04:30 AM

Ahoj Sgtblue, mám se dobře :nod:

Yesterday I pulled the engine out of the car.
http://img30.imageshack.us/img30/4518/7omd.jpg
http://img94.imageshack.us/img94/1857/2v21.jpg
http://img845.imageshack.us/img845/7915/x9cq.jpg
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In this week i wont to complete dismantle the engine.

Sgtblue 10-07-13 07:14 AM

Good progress. Looks like a previous owner installed a lightened flywheel. :icon_tup:
A couple of tips....that front hub bolt can be really hard to remove. If you haven't gotten it off yet, I strongly recommend using a 6-sided wrench or socket...not 12 sided. Those can slip and round off that nut.

dvaz 10-27-13 12:28 AM

Coolant seal
 
Might be the coolant seal those tend to fail after some time

Mattyno 11-05-13 06:07 AM

Motor disassembled. You can see broken seal and corrosion from water.

http://imageshack.com/scaled/1024x768/545/ipuj.jpg
http://imageshack.com/scaled/1024x768/716/i7jg.jpg
http://imageshack.com/scaled/1024x768/407/u9y6.jpg
http://imageshack.com/scaled/1024x768/14/pd9l.jpg
http://imageshack.com/scaled/1024x768/853/xio9.jpg
http://imageshack.com/scaled/1024x768/62/bf5z.jpg
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http://imageshack.com/scaled/1024x768/571/1rdf.jpg
http://imageshack.com/scaled/1024x768/855/xxya.jpg
http://imageshack.com/scaled/1024x768/18/q1wc.jpg
http://imageshack.com/scaled/1024x768/33/b60w.jpg
http://imageshack.com/scaled/1024x768/826/561g.jpg

Mattyno 11-05-13 06:07 AM

http://imageshack.com/scaled/1024x768/708/wzvo.jpg
http://imageshack.com/scaled/1024x768/546/2upg.jpg

The rotors with bearings are fine. Bearings in stationary gear looks bad.


http://imageshack.com/scaled/1024x768/189/rhnu.jpg
Dust
http://imageshack.com/scaled/1024x768/841/7ew3.jpg
http://imageshack.com/scaled/1024x768/89/bn32.jpg http://imageshack.com/scaled/1024x768/202/nkhx.jpg http://imageshack.com/scaled/1024x768/7/km2n.jpg
http://imageshack.com/scaled/1024x768/707/cekm.jpg
Speedometer shows in miles, do You know how to remake the km/h?
http://imageshack.com/scaled/1024x768/837/7zvz.jpg

Mattyno 12-27-13 07:57 AM

Plates measured and seems great.
http://imageshack.com/scaled/1024x768/17/fcq5.jpg
http://imageshack.com/scaled/1024x768/543/s6cm.jpg

When I slow start to move, i heard noise from gearbox. The sound came from the gearbox, which brushed the body see photo
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...0/855/h6tc.jpg

Boys nicely blinded EGR. Only one screw from 3 to split them and bother them unscrewed and rewind thread. It seems that the resulting flue gas leak leaked and possibly i nespálený olej.
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...0/853/0g7b.jpg
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...0/163/zm6p.jpg

I forgot to put there rotors :nod:
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https://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/10...0/854/9cjf.jpg

Now I´am choosing APEX seals, side seals and corner seals:
1. RA super seals RA Super Seals
2. Atkins Apex seals 86-95 Rx7 13B 2mm Atkins Apex Seal Set (ARE13-2)
3. 86-95 Rx7 13B Side Seal Set (N3Y1-11-C11)
4. 86-95 Rx7 13B 2mm Solid Corner Seal Set (ARE88)

Do You know why my old corner seal broke up?
This is old power graph.
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...90/17/uhdy.jpg

misterstyx69 12-27-13 08:54 AM

I posted in your other Thread,Matty.
look at these:https://www.rx7club.com/vendor-class...-seals-946394/

Mattyno 01-11-14 12:57 PM

Old corner seal is destroyed due to the detonation?
That is why I will refuel high-octane gasoline to prevent detonation.
Filling pressure I do not want to reduce.

I ordered the RA super seal + springs.
From banzai new ast + oil pan brace.
From Atkins every seals and all other necessary parts.
I ordered the small things in Mazda in the Czech Republic.

I hope that in March the engine will be ready.
Do you know what runout mm will be the bearing in the clutch shaft in the gearbox? In the manual, I don´t found it.

Sgtblue 01-11-14 02:17 PM


Originally Posted by Mattyno (Post 11657183)
Do you know what runout mm will be the bearing in the clutch shaft in the gearbox? In the manual, I don´t found it.

Not sure exactly which bearing you're referring to. If it's the pilot bearing or throw-out bearing (which disengages the clutch) I recommend just replacing both. There is no spec as far as I know. They simply make noise when they fail. They don't cost much.

reclaimer auto 01-12-14 05:52 AM

My last motor did that! Atkins took a bunch of my money but fixed it. How much did it cost you?

Mattyno 03-11-14 07:13 AM

New bearings
https://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/80...0/706/7has.jpg[/url]
New oil seals + springs
https://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/80...0/577/xhyg.jpg
https://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/80...0/841/st5l.jpg
http://s29.postimg.org/elaccosrr/20140222_104446.jpg
Front rotor
http://s21.postimg.org/ero1rfi5j/20140222_114213.jpg
Middle plate
http://s2.postimg.org/h96p1i6m1/20140222_115507.jpg
Tension bolts
http://s3.postimg.org/a9lz9bi8j/20140222_132631.jpg
http://s23.postimg.org/65o1m3gej/20140223_164127.jpg
http://s3.postimg.org/8m0lzw8ib/20140223_164145.jpg
http://s28.postimg.org/8fzg87jd9/DSCN5192.jpg
http://s12.postimg.org/rgvuou3y5/DSCN5200.jpg
http://s29.postimg.org/sh5kt4gd3/DSCN5202.jpg
Now I have to finish transmission.

Sgtblue 03-11-14 07:48 AM

:icon_tup: Nice work.

Mattyno 05-15-14 07:34 AM

Car is finished. Now I´m solve problem with tuning power FC. I have to write new topic to Power FC Forum :nod:

WJM ROTARIES 05-15-14 08:04 AM

Nice work you have done there

Alex Rodriguez 05-15-14 10:44 AM

new guy is doing very well i like it

keep up the good work


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