No compression, motor is out, rebuild time.
Ok need some insight here.
I got the engine out and pulled the turbo and exhaust manifold. Looking through the ports, all the apex seals are present, and from what I can tell the through the exhaust, the housings look good and the irons look good. but there is a ton of build up of carbon on everything. It had no compression on either rotor. I can not get the apex seals to move at all. Probably because the PO used synthetic, There was a mobile 1 filter on it and a mobile one bottle of oil under the hood. So I am going to yank it apart and clean up everything and inspect it all. Now I have been looking at the Atkins Rotary rebuild kit, But whats the determining factor on weather or not I should replace the rotor seals? The car has 90K miles on it and never has been modded, bone stock even the cats are present. should I just clean it all back up with new O rings or should I replace all the apex and rotor seals? |
Well you know that you are going to need the soft seals if you take it apart.
I would wait until you have it Fully apart and then start your parts list. No sense in ordering stuff that cost money and you do not need! |
Originally Posted by misterstyx69
(Post 11353430)
Well you know that you are going to need the soft seals if you take it apart.
I would wait until you have it Fully apart and then start your parts list. No sense in ordering stuff that cost money and you do not need! |
I've been planning on buying an FD RX and was thinking I'd learn to do the rebuilds myself and since they're so darn cheap I could learn on a JDM import motor. Heck maybe even learn to rebuild them enough to keep a built spare in the garage ready to be put in just in case my motor takes a dump.
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Originally Posted by GreenChevelleSS
(Post 11353435)
your totally right, and thats what I planned on doing. But im just trying to get an idea, if the rotor seals are just stuck, should I go ahead and replace them or just leave the OEM ones? also what about the springs?
The only way I would just do the Soft seals is if the engine had great compression.Anything less I would be 2nd guessing the internals,so Instead of doing an engine job Twice,I would opt to re-do everything and do the Engine rebuild Once! Internally,If the seals stuck,then they would have to be removed anyways,rotors cleaned etc. I'd be looking at replacing anything on that Taco! |
Originally Posted by GreenChevelleSS
(Post 11353424)
.... The car has 90K miles on it and never has been modded, bone stock even the cats are present. should I just clean it all back up with new O rings or should I replace all the apex and rotor seals?
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Ok guys I got the engine torn down, Im amazed at how much carbon build up and how Gooey everything is. The apex seals are stuck by a gooey substance, and the housing have a nice coat all the way around them. After using a rag and rubbing the housings, they look immaculate. Ive got some pics loading to photobucket I will load up.
See if you guys can access this and look at the pics 89 RX7 TurboII Photos by greenchevelless | Photobucket |
I would go ahead and make sure everything is within the specifications. If something is not, just replace it. And by the way I have the atkins rotary 2 piece seals and I love them so far...
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Housings look great, rotors look great, checked apex seals, I can see some wear on them now they are cleaned up, going to replace them. Having a difficult time removing the corner seals and side seals, they are almost stuck flush with the side of the rotors.
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Originally Posted by GreenChevelleSS
(Post 11356827)
Housings look great, rotors look great, checked apex seals, I can see some wear on them now they are cleaned up, going to replace them. Having a difficult time removing the corner seals and side seals, they are almost stuck flush with the side of the rotors.
Rotary >Pistons |
I had no compression at all, all rotor seals were stuck. You could pull the plug and turn it over, it wouldnt even make a sound. Didnt even register on the gauge.
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Oh wow mine makes sound
Rotary >Pistons |
Ok everything is apart finally, I had to use a propane torch to heat up the rotors to get the end seals and side seals out. what a B!tc# it was, I broke 4 side seals getting them out. Not happy as they were good. Gonna send the rotors and housings to my buddy with a steam parts washer to see if he can get them clean since my solvent tank is not touching it.
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Originally Posted by GreenChevelleSS
(Post 11359633)
Ok everything is apart finally, I had to use a propane torch to heat up the rotors to get the end seals and side seals out. what a B!tc# it was, I broke 4 side seals getting them out. Not happy as they were good. Gonna send the rotors and housings to my buddy with a steam parts washer to see if he can get them clean since my solvent tank is not touching it.
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Originally Posted by simonFC
(Post 11359827)
You could've let it sit with some atf fluid on the seals or wd-40. Sometimes that makes them come out
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I think I will rebuild my 13b at home. I'll post some pics when I start
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