1983 GSL starts fine but no power
Hello there. I just replaced the catalytic converters and removed my rats nest but I can't rev past about 5200 RPM in first gear and it takes a long time to get there. It also seems to backfire a bit when coasting down from higher rpm.
I didn't have a power problem until I replaced the coaster valve. I replaced the coaster valve bc the car was (and still is) sputtering at idle and making the distinctive honking noise from the carb. The car no longer honks with the new valve but I'm stumped at my power issue. I've included a few photos of what I've done if that helps. https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rx7...da054c9222.jpg https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rx7...ac0dea2647.jpg https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rx7...c1f3b9b6e5.jpg https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rx7...a6abe8fd7b.jpg https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rx7...ad6d43ca10.jpg |
it may not be the solution to ALL your problems, but your secondaries are not opening. (3rd photo)
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I called the Rotary Doctor here in Missouri and he said that it may be the secondaries as well. Unfortunately I have no idea what to do about it. I've found my Haynes manual to be of little help...
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1983 GSL starts fine but no power
secondaries is the second set of throttle butterflys that are supposed to open for more fuel, alot like secondary fuel injectors
idk if FBs are vacuum or mechanical secondaries, so i'm not much more help |
i'll do my best to describe what to do, just keep in mind i won't use correct technical names because i don't memorize them and i really don't feel like looking them up right now. fair? :)
in the 3rd photo, you will see a lever attached to the main throttle return spring. on the other end of that lever you will see it's open (like a goal post or tuning fork). look in that area for a rod that looks kinda like Mjollnir (Thor's hammer) that has a small (maybe 7 or 8 mm) nut on top of it. that rod needs to sit in the open end of the lever. they should work after that. as set up by the factory, the secondaries are vacuum. |
Originally Posted by diabolical1
(Post 11923744)
as set up by the factory, the secondaries are vacuum.
you may want to also look at the FSM and see what vacuum line(s) you NEED for the carb, or else set up the secondaries to mechanical, I think I recall seeing a how-to to make them mechanical, but in my personal opinion, vacuum are better |
Thanks diabolical I'll have a go at it first thing tomorrow and report back.
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this thread has a photo of how yours currently are and also a photo of how they should be
https://www.rx7club.com/1st-generati...operly-815804/
Originally Posted by lduley
(Post 11923766)
aka since you played around with the vacuum lines/removed the rats nest, you may of taken the vacuum away from the secondaries, hence why you have to accelerate slow, because the carb isn't letting enough gas in for it to accelerate
you may want to also look at the FSM and see what vacuum line(s) you NEED for the carb, or else set up the secondaries to mechanical, I think I recall seeing a how-to to make them mechanical, but in my personal opinion, vacuum are better |
okay. simple enough. i can't remember where to hook it up because the vacuum passages and nipple are internal to carburetor, so i never had to. :)
https://www.rx7club.com/1st-generati...pening-681430/ this thread shows a good illustration of the secondaries' vacuum passages. https://www.rx7club.com/1st-generati...daries-770378/ |
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gutless without throttle return spring
Yeah i had same problem. Got an 83 gsl, it was missing the nut on the end of the rod. I got another, throttle is now much more responsive and secondaries work. Mpg is down now lol but fun went up
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Well I've got power now when I floor it. There definitely a distinct surge when the secondaries kick in. It's awesome!
It still sputters a bit without the secondaries though when going easy on the throttle so I've still got something to resolve there. It also backfires quite a bit when I let off the gas so I may reconnect my new shutter valve. |
Originally Posted by Schnoebdog
(Post 11924010)
It still sputters a bit without the secondaries though when going easy on the throttle so I've still got something to resolve there. It also backfires quite a bit when I let off the gas so I may reconnect my new shutter valve.
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I upped the idle using the adjust screw on the right as looking at it from the drivers side of the engine bay. I upped the idle from 800 rpm to 1100 rpm ms it stil sputters a lot until the secondaries kick in. When the secondaries kick in it runs real smooth.
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that's the idle speed adjustment. it basically opens the throttle more (to a point), it doesn't change the mixture. try making the mixture richer.
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Originally Posted by diabolical1
(Post 11924086)
that's the idle speed adjustment. it basically opens the throttle more (to a point), it doesn't change the mixture. try making the mixture richer.
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yes. you can see it in your 1st photo. if you haven't done so already, make sure your timing is right. that should be right before you start messing with the mixture.
https://www.rx7club.com/1st-generati...-screw-623893/ https://www.rx7club.com/1st-generati...e-carb-310927/ |
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