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RotaMan99 08-27-07 09:02 PM

Ya thats the primary rail you needed :)

Ya grometts and o-rings would be good. There is a store near me, about 25min away that has all sorts of grometts and o-rings, bolts, nuts and stuff so if we need anything, we can go there.

If you can pick up o-rings and gromets though, that would be a good idea. I may even have some. A small o-ring kit from the autostore works wonders :)

Mazdatrix.com sells the o-rings and gromets too.

If you can't get everything in time we can always push this off untill you do.

RotaMan99 08-27-07 09:05 PM

the list looks good. Im going to go put everything in a pile right now. I hope I havn't misplaced anything.

Actually, Pineapple sleeves would be a good idea to put in while we have everything apart. Should be only an extra few minutes to install.

Remember, this is not going to be a 2-3 hour job.. The earlier you can come, the better! Im up at 7am on my days off anyways. Plan for about 5-7+ hours.

I charge $150 /hour :naughty: :rlaugh:

Rotary_Powerd 08-27-07 09:09 PM

Sweet so the only thing missing would be the o-rings and gromets? Great!

And optionally the Pineapple sleeves, I'll see what I can do about those, and the needed S4 LIM gasket that would be needed. If not that's no big :)

Alternatively my next day off from the university would be October 8 (Monday) Columbus Day. IF you free AND it's NOT any trouble that's another good tentative day. Hmmm...which might be considered for the sake of the pineapple sleeves...lol

Originally Posted by RotaMan99 (Post 7277862)
Remember, this is not going to be a 2-3 hour job.. The earlier you can come, the better! Im up at 7am on my days off anyways. Plan for about 5-7+ hours.

I charge $150 /hour :naughty: :rlaugh:

I'll be knocking on your door at 5 am then:D The earlier the better for me as well that way there's no one on the highways:naughty:

As for your rate I hope you mean pesos... or even better in Yen, cause I'm a college student....

Though some compensation & beer are in order;) LOL

RotaMan99 08-27-07 09:48 PM


As for your rate I hope you mean pesos... or even better in Yen, cause I'm a college student....
Ya I was just joking :)


Though some compensation & beer are in order LOL
Its been a while since I have had anything to drink, after one beer, I would probubly either A) Stumble around B) Screw something up your engine, I acutally drove around with a bad o-ring once on the secondary rail pissing on the exhaust manifold because I was drinking while working on my car......enough said. C)Pass Out.

You guys can have the beers though :) As long as you can drive home safe. I suppose whatever you can afford, I know how it feels not having much money, I feel like that all the time with my bills.

Rotary_Powerd 08-27-07 10:48 PM


Originally Posted by RotaMan99 (Post 7278046)
Ya I was just joking :)

Its been a while since I have had anything to drink, after one beer, I would probubly either A) Stumble around B) Screw something up your engine, I acutally drove around with a bad o-ring once on the secondary rail pissing on the exhaust manifold because I was drinking while working on my car......enough said. C)Pass Out.

You guys can have the beers though :) As long as you can drive home safe. I suppose whatever you can afford, I know how it feels not having much money, I feel like that all the time with my bills.

No worries bro, I know you were joking lol:D Nah, no drinking for us lol, I actually want to learn something. and want to be 100% focused. As a rule I never drink and drive not even one beer, ever. But I thought you'd get a laugh out of the offer:D

We'll buy you some lunch though, a nice foot long sub, maybe a pizza or something. Whatever you want.:ylsuper: And will bring some coffee/soda as well, maybe some dunkin donuts bagels/muffins too. Nothing like a good cup of coffee in the morning to get you going. And even us poor students have a small stash of cash hidden;)

Hopefully I'll pick up a couple of pointers from one of the local rotary experts.

RotaMan99 08-28-07 05:50 AM

I just remembered what to use for the pineapple sleeves, LocTight.

Pizza is always good! If you buy enough of it so I have lunch for the week at work that'd be great! :)

Mountain Dew usually gets me going in the morning :) It what my buddy and I usually drink when we called our shop (my barn) Midnight Auto as our inside joke. We worked second shift at the same job at the time so when we got out, we went to my place to work on either his car, my car, my girl's cars, or someone elses car. Stayed up to about 3-4am, then went to bed.

Do you have a SAFC? I forget if you said you did or not. If you do, or plan on getting one, we could throw on a S5 throttle body so you could use the full range TPS for the safc :)

There are plenty of local rotary experts around, even I would like to meet the others. You will be wrenching while I eat pizza so you will learn something :)

No steeling my tools, I'll have to kill you!

While typing this I just heard one of the many v8 hot rods fly by, so while your here, because we are in the sticks, you will probubly see a blue car fly by that I can only guess has something done to its big block. I don't know if its the rx7 or what but almost any car that drive by with exhaust or modified engine, always either floors it (automatic) or throws it down 1 or 2 gears right at my house.

Damn rednecks. I may not beat them in a straight but I will probubly beat them for being able to hold my engine at 8000rpm without worrying im going to shot a rod through the side of my block and launch a piston into the head hahaha :)

RotaMan99 08-29-07 09:57 AM


Do you have a SAFC? I forget if you said you did or not. If you do, or plan on getting one, we could throw on a S5 throttle body so you could use the full range TPS for the safc
Actually I can't seem to find my spare S5 TB. :uhh:

Rotary_Powerd 08-29-07 04:18 PM

Lol, no worries, no I don't have SAFC, yet. I can't decide whether to go with safc or Rtek7. SAFC is cheaper and gives nearly the same results though :) I got the Manifold and ACV gaskets as well as the fuel rail today. Just waiting on the RPM switch, should be here by Friday.

RotaMan99 08-29-07 10:06 PM

Actually the Rtek is way more advanced then the SAFC. You can adjust ignition timing and fuel curve unlike the SAFC which is only fuel and only modifies the AFM signal into the ECU where as the Rtek adjusts the fuel without faking its self out. There are a few other cool features by the rtek. I was going to go that route but I want to get rid of my AFM so im going to go with Megasquirt.

Rotary_Powerd 08-30-07 10:08 PM

Sweet deal, I hear some of the guys around here say there is like 10hp to gained through tuning the engine. BTW I forgot to mention I have the Blocking plate for the EGR as well I got it yesterday.

RotaMan99 08-31-07 05:44 AM

Aight.

Ya tuning the ignition timing and fuel will a lot of times gain you over 10hp. I advanced my timing and add fuel up top from 5000+ and on the cool days my engine just keeps pulling very hard to about 7800rpm. On hot days it doesn't matter where the timing and fuel are, still have no power :(

Rotary_Powerd 09-01-07 03:44 PM

Bad news:
Errr!!! Still no RPM switch, not happy. -Cries-

I guess we will have to put this off for now... And I was really exited! Damn :(

On a lighter note this will give a chance to buy the pineapple intake sleeves :) What do you think? I really apologize for the delay. Perhaps we can do Oct 8? Or even a weekend, whatever works best for you. I hope I'm not to much trouble bro.:(

New list of things to buy:
1)Intake Sleeves
2)LIM gasket

RotaMan99 09-01-07 06:24 PM

Nah, no trouble at all.

Better to have everything while your here instead of making multiple trips.

As long as the day lands on a Monday. I should be getting Monday Tuesday and Wednesday off soon working 4 10 hour days so we will see.

Rotary_Powerd 09-06-07 09:38 PM

Just picked up another RPM switch on ebay! :) I'll pick up some pills during this month to. Which sizes do recommend getting? Also for the intake sleeves I just need 1)Intake Sleeves 2)LIM gasket, right? :) Thanks bro. Your going to be getting Pizza, Donuts and Bagels ;) lol....

Rotary_Powerd 09-07-07 12:07 AM

We can throw the Header on too (if we have time) Or I can do it before as well. you can test the car before and after mods to see what the butt dyno says for the power upgrade.

RotaMan99 09-07-07 08:06 AM


Just picked up another RPM switch on ebay! I'll pick up some pills during this month to. Which sizes do recommend getting?
Aux, 3800 and VDI 5200.


Also for the intake sleeves I just need 1)Intake Sleeves 2)LIM gasket, right?
You talking about the Pineapple port sleeve inserts? If so then just those. The Series 4 LIM Gasket you don't need for the sleeves but you do need it for UIM and LIM to mate.


Thanks bro. Your going to be getting Pizza, Donuts and Bagels lol....
PARTY TIME!


We can throw the Header on too (if we have time) Or I can do it before as well. you can test the car before and after mods to see what the butt dyno says for the power upgrade.
The header should be no problem. Afterwards we may need to fool with the pressure sensor since a few times that has caused some issues with people swapping to the s5 intake manifold. With me, I just had to unplug it electronically, drive around, plug it back in and it worked fine. The issue that may come up is power completly dropping off after 5000rpm.

I hope its not to cold when you come up, I have no heat in my barn :)

Rotary_Powerd 09-07-07 08:17 AM


Originally Posted by RotaMan99 (Post 7310356)
Aux, 3800 and VDI 5200.
I hope its not to cold when you come up, I have no heat in my barn :)

Nothing runs hotter than a rotary engine, it makes a great heater :icon_tup: :rlaugh:
Nah early oct might be in the upper 60's nice whether, I'll bring hot chocolate and coffee though, hehe.

RotaMan99 09-07-07 09:15 AM

I dunno, I have ran my car in the barn and it never goes up a degree, although you do start to get a little light headed from the exhaust fumes :)

Rotary_Powerd 09-16-07 10:59 PM

Just ordered the intake sleeves! :)

RotaMan99 09-17-07 09:06 PM

You mean the Intake Sleeve Inserts. :)

Nice, Can't wait. Although, its starting to get cold ! Im going to have to clean out my barn and get a propane heater in their soon!

Rotary_Powerd 09-25-07 11:31 PM

The day draws near! :) Can't wait. Final parts list

1)manifold (all 3 pieces, they have not been separated)
2)RPM switch x 2 MSD
3)ACV gasket
4) Middle manifold gasket
5) EGR Block off plate
6) Sleeve inserts
7) Primary fuel rail

buying from you:
1)Secondary Fuel Rail
2)Summit Rpm Switch
3)Electric Solenoid
4) VDI Actuator.
5) temp MSD pills

Mission 1) VDI 2) Sleeve inserts;
3) Header if there is time...

Weather predicted at a nice cool 66° :)

Other supplies, Bagels, coffee, mountain dew & pizza. ;)

Alright bro, guess I should ask, how much $ for your services/help? Send me a PM on that, so we can work something out. Don't got much (college student lol), but I'm not cheap either ;) Also PM address as well please.

What time would you like to meet?

RotaMan99 09-26-07 06:10 AM


buying from you:
1)Secondary Fuel Rail
2) Don't need the summit switch now that you have 2 MSDs :)
3)Two Electric Solenoid (AUX and VDI)
4) VDI Actuator.
5) temp MSD pills
Correction on the buying list.


Other supplies, Bagels, coffee, mountain dew & pizza.
No Donuts ??!??!?? You gata be at my house early in the morning! :)

I get up usually around 6am or 7a. It depends when my parrot wakes me up. So somewhere after that.

I'll PM ya the rest. :)

Rotary_Powerd 09-26-07 08:06 AM

Oops! Forgot about the donuts, those are essential to good project completion! :P

RotaMan99 09-26-07 10:28 AM

Going to have to get 24 donuts. 3 donuts per hour should be sufficiant :)

RotaMan99 10-08-07 10:21 PM

Carlos , I spell ur name right?

I will be taking progress pictures and posting them here so you can see aht has been done and how its been done.

With the RPM switches, I will probubly take them apart and just solder the correct resistor inside for the specific activated rpm intead of using the pill. It will be more reliable that way since they will be hidden under the carpet.

I hope to get the parts in soon, thats really all what im waiting for. If I had you get those parts there wouldn't be an issues but thats my fault.

But here are the Port sleeves with inserts :) I love these things !!!! Just remember how they looked before. YIKES.

http://www.midnightgray.net/images/portsleeves.jpg


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