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dennis blackstone 01-04-11 06:55 PM

its scary to buy a micro tech they dont start in the cold
 
why spend so much money and they dont even start in the cold
there should be a parameter for cold climates

rxspeed7 01-04-11 08:57 PM

there is.... its called water and air temp correction maps. i have never had a problem starting my car in freezing weather.

flaco 01-04-11 09:49 PM

lol

dennis blackstone 01-05-11 02:40 PM

do you have a pic of it..i cant find it

rxspeed7 01-05-11 03:02 PM

http://www.microtechusa.com/Download.../MT_manual.pdf

Aaron Cake 01-05-11 04:20 PM


Originally Posted by dennis blackstone (Post 10398153)
why spend so much money and they dont even start in the cold
there should be a parameter for cold climates

Huh?

Microtechs have a cold cranking map and air/water timing/fuel temperature correction maps like any other ECU. They also have afterstart enrichment like all other ECUs.

Where are you getting this misinformation?

joeylyrech 01-05-11 05:24 PM

It has been in the 20s all week long and my car starts right up and is not even 100% tuned.
Water map and Air temp map adjust them maybe you are not getting enough fuel or getting to much.

dennis blackstone 01-05-11 06:21 PM

it came with the car my brother bought ..we tried googling it but we have no info ...it started before when we had 50degree whether ...now it dont

RotaryEvolution 01-05-11 06:44 PM

get it tuned then.

Aaron Cake 01-06-11 10:03 AM


Originally Posted by dennis blackstone (Post 10399734)
it came with the car my brother bought ..we tried googling it but we have no info ...it started before when we had 50degree whether ...now it dont

It needs to be tuned, plain and simple. The ECU was probably tuned in warm weather and then left alone. An experienced tuner can guess well enough based on previous settings, but all the fine tuning needs to be done in the appropriate conditions.

The process is the same regardless of the ECU used. Even if it is something as archaic as the Microtech.

dennis blackstone 01-08-11 03:51 PM

i read the manual i cant find the cold cranking

rxspeed7 01-08-11 04:53 PM

did you read the manual???? i posted a link to it a few posts up. the cranking,air temp and water temp correction map are on page 19 of the pdf file and are screens 20,21, and 22 in the computer.

dennis blackstone 01-10-11 10:05 PM

thanks so much...i know ill have to have my tuner set it up
but can you share your setting to give an idea ,,,i now every car is differant

elturbonitroso 01-11-11 04:23 PM

injector sizes influences alot also like you say every engine its different.

dennis blackstone 01-11-11 07:27 PM

theres a walboro fuel pump ...2 1000cc 2-720cc, a bnr stage 2 turbo..

rotorholic 01-11-11 07:47 PM

I'm sure its not the Microtech. My car started today (also in the 20s)

`iCED 01-11-11 11:36 PM

I had the same problem on my lt-8, but didn't even have a chance to tackle the problem because my car got stolen lol.

My brother has the lt-8s and he dd's it. It was in the 30's in riverside a couple weeks ago and his car starts up fine.

dennis blackstone 01-12-11 02:07 PM

it basically a surprise when my brother bought the car and the seller did not say there was a micotech in there ..we have no clue on microtech ..so we tried to do some research but still could not get the car to start in the cold
so now we have the manual we just dont understand where we should start
we have a tuner t&r but they do haltech all we need is a map to get it started

or some base parameters to go by and adjust accordingly

elturbonitroso 01-12-11 04:34 PM

where in ct you are located.

Aaron Cake 01-13-11 08:52 AM

What happens when you try to start the car?

Does it crank forever and not catch?

Does it start and then immediately stall?

Please describe in detail what the issue is and we can suggest settings to change.

drifting in drifting 01-13-11 05:24 PM

Try this for 720/1000



Idle Map
Screen 1

30" ~ 1.38
25" ~ 1.48
20" ~ 1.33
15" ~ 1.71
10" ~ 2
05" ~ 2.1
00" ~ 2.56
2-20psi ~ 4.95

Load Map
Screen 3

30" ~ 0.95
25" ~ 1.19
20" ~ 1.33
15" ~ 1.71
10" ~ 2.14
05" ~ 2.57
00" ~ 3.56
2psi ~ 2.9
4psi ~ 3.9
6psi ~ 4.7
8psi ~ 5.1
10psi ~ 5.6
14psi ~ 6.2
16psi ~ 6.8
18psi ~ 7.4
20psi ~ 8

RPMwot Map Screen 17

5000 ~ 05
5500 ~ 08
6000 ~ 08
6500 ~ 10
7000 ~ 11
7500 ~ 11
8000 ~ 11
9000 ~ 12

The rest are zero

RPMcrs Screen 18

1000 ~ -12
1500 ~ -11
2000 ~ -12

THe rest are zero



Pump Map
Screen 19

Pump2Start ~ 2000
Pump1Amt ~ 00
Pump1Pulse ~ 04
Pump1Trig ~ 18
Pump1Stop ~ 00
Pump1Adv ~ 05

Pump2Time ~ 10
Pump2Amt ~ 30
Pump2Trig ~ 16
Pump2Stop ~ 00
Pump2Adv ~ 05

PumpDwell ~ 3.00
PumpTimers ~ No
Pump1Sync ~ No
PumpSpare ~ 00
PumpCold ~ 00

Water Map
Screen 20

-25 ~ 0
-17 ~ 70
-9 ~ 60
-01 ~ 50
05 ~ 45
11 ~ 45
18 ~ 42
24 ~ 34
31 ~ 26
38 ~ 24
46 ~ 19
60 ~ 12
68 ~ 06
82 ~ 0
99 ~ 0
124 ~ 0

Air_t Map
Screen 21

-25 ~ 0
-17 ~ 8
-9 ~ 6
-1 ~ 5
5 ~ 4
11 ~ 3
18 ~ 3
24 ~ 0
31 ~ 0
38 ~ 0
46 ~ 0
60 ~ 0
68 ~ 0
82 ~ 0
99 ~ 0
124 ~ 0

Crank Map
Screen 22

-25 ~ 72
-17 ~ 72
-9 ~ 72
-1 ~ 67
5 ~ 62
11 ~ 57
18 ~ 50
24 ~ 41
31 ~ 31
38 ~ 26
46 ~ 20
60 ~ 15
68 ~ 5
82 ~ 0
99 ~ 0
124 ~ 0

t*rpm
Screen 23

Idle ~ 10
1000 ~ 10
1500 ~ 15
2000 ~ 20
2500 ~ 25
3000 ~ 25
3500 ~ 25
4000 ~ 25
4500 ~ 25
5000 ~ 25
5500 ~ 25
6000 ~ 25
6500 ~ 25
7000 ~ 25
7500 ~ ??
8000 ~ 25
9000 ~ 25

t*map Map
Screen 24

Idle ~ 00
25 ~ 05
20 ~ 04
15 ~ 03
10 ~ 02
05 ~ 00
00 ~ 00
2psi ~ 00
4psi ~ 00
6psi ~ 02
8psi ~ -04
10psi ~ -06
14psi ~ -10
16psi ~ -12
18 psi ~ -16
20 psi ~ -20

t*air Screen 25
Correction value Is expressed as number of degrees you wish to advance or Retard to the Ignition curve and values Is set at zero.

t*gap
Screen 26

0500 ~ 15
1000 ~ 15
1500 ~ 15
2000 ~ 14
2500 ~ 12
3000 ~ 10
3500 ~ 10
4000 ~ 10
4500 ~ 10
5000 ~ 10
5500 ~ 10
6000 ~ 10
6500 ~ 10
7000 ~ 10
8000 ~ 10

t*Inj Map
Screen 27

0500 ~ 120
1000 ~ 150
1500 ~ 150
2000 ~ 150
2500 ~ 150
3000 ~ 150
3500 ~ 150
4000 ~ 150
4500 ~ 180
5000 ~ 210
5500 ~ 210
6000 ~ 240
6500 ~ 240
7000 ~ 270
8000 ~ 270
9000 ~ 270

t*wat Map Screen 28


ANd the rest are zero

Option Map
Screen 30

Af_StE ~ 10
Dwell ~ 3.25 *set at Time Base - not at Duty Cycle*
REVstg ~ 2000
MAPstg ~ 02"
%stg ~ 50

dennis blackstone 01-13-11 08:01 PM

thanks for being understanding ill give that a try

rxspeed7 01-13-11 10:01 PM

theres a few base maps stickied to the top of this forum also. you couldve looked there first

dennis blackstone 01-14-11 12:29 AM

i did

elturbonitroso 01-15-11 04:19 PM

where i ct you are located i could probably help you.


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