goes lean when secondaries kick in
 

Guys my car has been running fine but i always have this weird issue,when the secondaries kick in it goes lean for a couple off seconds(according 2 my AEM wideband)and i want to make sure that i wont blow up the motor,is there a way 2 fix this or is one of those microtech issues that you cant get rid off?Car is running on pump gas 720cc priamries 1600cc secondaries in normal mode.

whats your staging percentage?

720 and 1600 is a big space betweeen each other. thats the issue there. you have to set your % higher

try setting the stg% to 85-90

REVstg ~ 1320
MAPstg ~ 02"
%stg ~ 50

And here is the whole map.
Idle Map
Screen 1

30" ~ 1.38
25" ~ 1.48
20" ~ 1.33
15" ~ 1.42
10" ~ 1.42 I have 1.42 on these 3 values 2 keep the micro from adding or taking fuel out(bridgeport)
05" ~ 1.42
00" ~ 2.00
2-20psi ~ 4.95

Load Map
Screen 3

30" ~ 0.95
25" ~ 1.19
20" ~ 1.33
15" ~ 1.71
10" ~ 2.57
05" ~ 2.86 See the bump in fuel in this 3 areas 2 help a little at the staging point but it kills my fuel millage and cruising sucks(it bucks 2 much)
00" ~ 3.05
2psi ~ 2.2
4psi ~ 3.2
6psi ~ 3.8
8psi ~ 4.4
10psi ~ 4.9
14psi ~ 5.5
16psi ~ 5.9
18psi ~ 6.5
20psi ~ 7

RPMwot Map Screen 17

5000 ~ 05
5500 ~ 08
6000 ~ 08
6500 ~ 10
7000 ~ 11
7500 ~ 11
8000 ~ 11
9000 ~ 12

The rest are zero

RPMcrs Screen 18

1000 ~ -12
1500 ~ -11
2000 ~ -12

THe rest are zero



Pump Map
Screen 19

Pump2Start ~ 2000
Pump1Amt ~ 00
Pump1Pulse ~ 04
Pump1Trig ~ 18
Pump1Stop ~ 00
Pump1Adv ~ 05

Pump2Time ~ 10
Pump2Amt ~ 30
Pump2Trig ~ 16
Pump2Stop ~ 00
Pump2Adv ~ 05

PumpDwell ~ 3.00
PumpTimers ~ No
Pump1Sync ~ No
PumpSpare ~ 00
PumpCold ~ 00

water Map
Screen 20

-25 ~ 0
-17 ~ 70
-9 ~ 60
-01 ~ 50
05 ~ 45
11 ~ 45
18 ~ 42
24 ~ 34
31 ~ 26
38 ~ 24
46 ~ 19
60 ~ 12
68 ~ 06
82 ~ 0
99 ~ 0
124 ~ 0

Air_t Map
Screen 21

-25 ~ 0
-17 ~ 8
-9 ~ 6
-1 ~ 5
5 ~ 4
11 ~ 3
18 ~ 3
24 ~ 0
31 ~ 0
38 ~ 0
46 ~ 0
60 ~ 0
68 ~ 0
82 ~ 0
99 ~ 0
124 ~ 0

Crank Map
Screen 22

-25 ~ 72
-17 ~ 72
-9 ~ 72
-1 ~ 67
5 ~ 62
11 ~ 57
18 ~ 50
24 ~ 41
31 ~ 31
38 ~ 26
46 ~ 20
60 ~ 15
68 ~ 5
82 ~ 0
99 ~ 0
124 ~ 0

t*rpm
Screen 23

Idle ~ 20 Yes at idle so it braps nicely
1000 ~ 10
1500 ~ 15
2000 ~ 20
2500 ~ 25
3000 ~ 25
3500 ~ 25
4000 ~ 25
4500 ~ 25
5000 ~ 25
5500 ~ 25
6000 ~ 25
6500 ~ 25
7000 ~ 25
7500 ~ ??
8000 ~ 25
9000 ~ 25

t*map Map
Screen 24

Idle ~ 00
25 ~ 05
20 ~ 04
15 ~ 03
10 ~ 02
05 ~ 00
00 ~ 00
2psi ~ 00
4psi ~ 00
6psi ~ 02
8psi ~ -04
10psi ~ -06
14psi ~ -10
16psi ~ -12
18 psi ~ -16
20 psi ~p -20

t*air Screen 25
Correction value Is expressed as number of degrees you wish to advance or Retard to the Ignition curve and values Is set at zero.

t*gap
Screen 26

0500 ~ 15
1000 ~ 15
1500 ~ 15
2000 ~ 14
2500 ~ 12
3000 ~ 10
3500 ~ 10
4000 ~ 10
4500 ~ 10
5000 ~ 10
5500 ~ 10
6000 ~ 10
6500 ~ 10
7000 ~ 10
8000 ~ 10

t*Inj Map
Screen 27

0500 ~ 120
1000 ~ 150
1500 ~ 150
2000 ~ 150
2500 ~ 150
3000 ~ 150
3500 ~ 150
4000 ~ 150
4500 ~ 180
5000 ~ 210
5500 ~ 210
6000 ~ 240
6500 ~ 240
7000 ~ 270
8000 ~ 270
9000 ~ 270

t*wat Map Screen 28


ANd the rest are zero

there you go % stage is on 50. is wrong

If changing the stage all your other settings might have to be adjusted as well.

try this map or have a tuner tune your vehicle.


Idle
Screen 1

30" Hg ... 1.14
25" Hg ... 1.05
20" Hg ... 1.14
15" Hg ... 1.14
10" Hg ... 1.24
05" Hg ... 1.67
00" Hg ... 2.00

Load
Screen 3

30" ... 1.00
25" ... 1.10
20" ... 1.14
15" ... 1.24
10" ... 2.19
05" ... 2.29
00" ... 2.52
2psi ... 2.71
4psi ... 3.05
6psi ... 3.57
8psi ... 4.19
10psi ... 4.62
14psi ... 5.19
16psi ... 5.48
18psi ... 5.81
20psi ... 6.38

RPMwot
Screen 17

0500 ... +00%
1000 ... +00%
1500 ... +04%
2000 ... +11%
2500 ... +13%
3000 ... +00%
3500 ... +00%
4000 ... -04%
4500 ... -05%
5000 ... -05%
5500 ... +00%
6000 ... +00%
6500 ... -01%
7000 ... -03%
8000 ... -03%
9000 ... -03%

RPMcrs
Screen 18

0500 ... +00%
1000 ... +00%
1500 ... -15%
2000 ... -23%
2500 ... -18%
3000 ... -18%
3500 ... -19%
4000 ... -15%
4500 ... -03%
5000 ... +00%
5500 ... +00%
6000 ... +00%
6500 ... +00%
7000 ... +00%
7500 ... +00%
8000 ... +00%
9000 ... +00%

Pump
Screen 19

Pump1 Amt ... +11%
Pump1pulse ... +2%
Pump1Trig ... +14%
Pump1Stop ... 00"Hg
Pump2Start ...2000
Pump2Amt ... +25%
Pump2Time ... +10
Pump2Trig ... +16
Pump2Stop ... 00"Hg
Pump1ADV ... +5
Pump2ADV ... +5
Pump Dwell ... 3.00
Pump Timers ... NO
Pump1 Sync ... NO
Pump Spare ... +00%

Water
Screen 20

124 C ... +00%
99 C ... +00%
82 C ... +00%
68 C ... +08%
60 C ... +19%
46 C ... +25%
38 C ... +30%
31 C ... +36%
24 C ... +41%
18 C ... +47%
11 C ... +51%
5 C ... +54%
-1 C ... +00%
-9 C ... +00%
-17 C ... +00%
-25 C ... +00%

Air_t
Screen 21

124 C ... +00%
99 C ... +00%
82 C ... +00%
68 C ... +04%
60 C ... +03%
46 C ... +04%
38 C ... +00%
31 C ... +00%
24 C ... +00%
18 C ... +00%
11 C ... +00%
5 C ... +00%
-1 C ... +00%
-9 C ... +00%
-17 C ... +00%
-25 C ... +00%

Crank
Screen 22

124 C ... +00%
99 C ... +00%
82 C ... +00%
68 C ... +05%
60 C ... +15%
46 C ... +20%
38 C ... +26%
31 C ... +31%
24 C ... +41%
18 C ... +50%
11 C ... +57%
5 C ... +62%
-1 C ... +67%
-9 C ... +72%
-17 C ... +72%
-25 C ... 72%

t* rpm
Screen 23

Idle ... +11
1000 ... +11
1500 ... +15
2000 ... +20
2500 ... +20
3000 ... +20
3500 ... +20
4000 ... +20
4500 ... +20
5000 ... +20
5500 ... +20
6000 ... +20
6500 ... +20
7000 ... +20
8000 ... +20
9000 ... +20

t*map
Screen 24

20 psi ... -10
18 psi ... -08
16 psi ... -07
14 psi ... -05
10 psi ... -05
8 psi ... -05
6 psi ... -04
4 psi ... -02
2 psi ... +00
00"Hg ... +05
05"Hg ... +05
10"Hg ... +07
15"Hg ... +07
20"Hg ... +07
25"Hg ... +05
30"Hg ... +05

t*air
Screen 25

124 C ... +00%
99 C ... +00%
82 C ... +00%
68 C ... +00%
60 C ... +00%
46 C ... +00%
38 C ... +00%
31 C ... +00%
24 C ... +00%
18 C ... +00%
11 C ... +00%
5 C ... +00%
-1 C ... +00%
-9 C ... +00%
-17 C ... +00%
-25 C ... +00%

t*gap
Screen 26

0500 ... +15
1000 ... +15
1500 ... +15
2000 ... +15
2500 ... +15
3000 ... +15
3500 ... +15
4000 ... +15
4500 ... +15
5000 ... +15
5500 ... +15
6000 ... +15
6500 ... +15
7000 ... +15
8000 ... +15
9000 ... +15

t*Inj
Screen 27

0500 ... 120
1000 ... 150
1500 ... 150
2000 ... 150
2500 ... 150
3000 ... 150
3500 ... 180
4000 ... 180
4500 ... 210
5000 ... 210
5500 ... 210
6000 ... 240
6500 ... 240
7000 ... 270
8000 ... 270
9000 ... 270

t* wat
Screen 28

124 C ... +00
99 C ... +00
82 C ... +00
68 C ... +00
60 C ... +00
46 C ... +00
38 C ... +00
31 C ... +00
24 C ... +00
18 C ... +00
11 C ... +00
5 C ... +00
-1 C ... +00
-9 C ... +00
-17 C ... +00
-25 C ... +00

Option
Screen 30

Opt MIXtrm +00%
Opt TPScal +27%
Opt TIMtrm +00%
Opt Static +00%
Opt TIMmax +27
Opt RPMwot 04"Hg
Opt RPMcrs 17"Hg
Opt AF_ste +08%
Opt REVlim OFF
Opt REVcut OFF
Opt BstCUT 24psi
Opt REVstg 1750
Opt MAPstg 04"Hg
Opt %stg +85%
Opt Decel OFF
Opt Dwell 5.00

Screen 31

Config +04 Cyl/R
Firing SEQUENTIAL
LOAD = MAP Sensor
DWELL = Time base
Input Trig +POS
Spark Trig -NEG
Timing check OFF
Rpm_ON 2500 Log
Map_ON 02psi Log
Sample +00 Log
Spare +00 Log
SHIFT 9750 Dash
WATER 92 C Dash
Air_T 40 C Dash
BOOST 17psi Dash
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Mine seems to do the same thing except it spikes to lean and then gets richer I'm running 750 x 1600 . My tuner recommended to not use aem wideband as" it isn't as accurate and can't be calibrated" ... He also said my bung hole was leaking exhaust lol!

Do you feel it when they stage? Ppl that have hard time staging 750/1600's are crazy. Never had a car i tuned with a noticeable "kick" when they stage.

Im gonna try your map and see,il keep you posted guys.Thanks!

rxspeed7 i put your map in and it idles way better,cleaner and meaner.I have not have time to drive it yet but it feels good free revving and it pulls more vacuum than before at idle.the only problem is that if i set Spark Trig -NEG my tach read wrong is off by 1000 rpms

yea i ran ls2 smart coils on that setup. you'll have to set the triggers for what ever your running.

I did tried 2 drive it today and is not good:(Is always really rich(10 on the wideband)and it just backfires,i could not go above 3k at alll to much fuel in the crusing maps:(