anyone have a map for 850/1600 hbp motor?
 

I got my ecu tuned by a shop in florida but they didn't have my car and they just put on a rough tune to get it started however I can tell this thing is just dumping fuel when I try to start the thing so I'm thinking I need a better tune. Does anyone have a map for anything remotely close to this setup?

Thanks

half bridge port
850 primaries
1600 secondaries
t70 turbo
two crane hi-6 ignition amps
4 crane lx-92 coils
blah blah blah

I guess all that matters is the port and the injectors just to get the thing to start.

Im sure i already gave you a map but here goes.

Idle Map
Screen 1

30" ~ 1.38
25" ~ 1.48
20" ~ 1.33
15" ~ 1.71
10" ~ 1.71
05" ~ 1.62
00" ~ 2.00
2-20psi ~ 4.95

Load Map
Screen 3

30" ~ 0.95
25" ~ 1.19
20" ~ 1.33
15" ~ 1.71
10" ~ 2.14
05" ~ 2.57
00" ~ 2.86
2psi ~ 2.2
4psi ~ 3.2
6psi ~ 3.8
8psi ~ 4.4
10psi ~ 4.9
14psi ~ 5.5
16psi ~ 5.9
18psi ~ 6.5
20psi ~ 7

RPMwot Map Screen 17

5000 ~ 05
5500 ~ 08
6000 ~ 08
6500 ~ 10
7000 ~ 11
7500 ~ 11
8000 ~ 11
9000 ~ 12

The rest are zero

RPMcrs Screen 18

1000 ~ -12
1500 ~ -11
2000 ~ -12

THe rest are zero



Pump Map
Screen 19

Pump2Start ~ 2000
Pump1Amt ~ 00
Pump1Pulse ~ 04
Pump1Trig ~ 18
Pump1Stop ~ 00
Pump1Adv ~ 05

Pump2Time ~ 10
Pump2Amt ~ 30
Pump2Trig ~ 16
Pump2Stop ~ 00
Pump2Adv ~ 05

PumpDwell ~ 3.00
PumpTimers ~ No
Pump1Sync ~ No
PumpSpare ~ 00
PumpCold ~ 00

Water Map
Screen 20

-25 ~ 0
-17 ~ 70
-9 ~ 60
-01 ~ 50
05 ~ 45
11 ~ 45
18 ~ 42
24 ~ 34
31 ~ 26
38 ~ 24
46 ~ 19
60 ~ 12
68 ~ 06
82 ~ 0
99 ~ 0
124 ~ 0

Air_t Map
Screen 21

-25 ~ 0
-17 ~ 8
-9 ~ 6
-1 ~ 5
5 ~ 4
11 ~ 3
18 ~ 3
24 ~ 0
31 ~ 0
38 ~ 0
46 ~ 0
60 ~ 0
68 ~ 0
82 ~ 0
99 ~ 0
124 ~ 0

Crank Map
Screen 22

-25 ~ 72
-17 ~ 72
-9 ~ 72
-1 ~ 67
5 ~ 62
11 ~ 57
18 ~ 50
24 ~ 41
31 ~ 31
38 ~ 26
46 ~ 20
60 ~ 15
68 ~ 5
82 ~ 0
99 ~ 0
124 ~ 0

t*rpm
Screen 23

Idle ~ 00
1000 ~ 10
1500 ~ 15
2000 ~ 20
2500 ~ 25
3000 ~ 25
3500 ~ 25
4000 ~ 25
4500 ~ 25
5000 ~ 25
5500 ~ 25
6000 ~ 25
6500 ~ 25
7000 ~ 25
7500 ~ ??
8000 ~ 25
9000 ~ 25

t*map Map
Screen 24

Idle ~ 00
25 ~ 05
20 ~ 04
15 ~ 03
10 ~ 02
05 ~ 00
00 ~ 00
2psi ~ 00
4psi ~ 00
6psi ~ 02
8psi ~ -04
10psi ~ -06
14psi ~ -10
16psi ~ -12
18 psi ~ -16
20 psi ~ -20

t*air Screen 25
Correction value Is expressed as number of degrees you wish to advance or Retard to the Ignition curve and values Is set at zero.

t*gap
Screen 26

0500 ~ 15
1000 ~ 15
1500 ~ 15
2000 ~ 14
2500 ~ 12
3000 ~ 10
3500 ~ 10
4000 ~ 10
4500 ~ 10
5000 ~ 10
5500 ~ 10
6000 ~ 10
6500 ~ 10
7000 ~ 10
8000 ~ 10

t*Inj Map
Screen 27

0500 ~ 120
1000 ~ 150
1500 ~ 150
2000 ~ 150
2500 ~ 150
3000 ~ 150
3500 ~ 150
4000 ~ 150
4500 ~ 180
5000 ~ 210
5500 ~ 210
6000 ~ 240
6500 ~ 240
7000 ~ 270
8000 ~ 270
9000 ~ 270

t*wat Map Screen 28


ANd the rest are zero

Option Map
Screen 30

Af_StE ~ 10
Dwell ~ 3.25 *set at Time Base - not at Duty Cycle*
REVstg ~ 1320
MAPstg ~ 02"
%stg ~ 50


If it starts and dosnt want to idle.

Put +10 in the opt_mixtrm

And work your way from their.

cough, cough, holy crap thanks a ton man! And no I haven't gottin' a tune from here yet I just went straight to a place in florida to have them do it for me. Again thank you very much!

Ok I plugged those numbers in and still nothing so it seems like it's the car and not the tune. I took the spark plugs out and turned it over and found that I could not get the crazy amount of gas vapors shooting out to stop. Is this normal or is that too much gas coming out? Should I actually be able to see alot of gas vapor just shooting out of both spark plug holes? Also I checked spark and I've got the weirdest problem. It sparks but it waits about 1.5 to 2 seconds to start sparking after cranking.

also....

I just noticed this post of yours

Since I've got a bosch 044 external pump should I reduce my FP to 30psi?

Thats ok mate. You can leave it at 40psi. Its not going to make the world of difference at this point in time.

Also the non spark time is normal for microtechs.

Put some engine oil and then try and start it. see if it starts.(through the spark plug wholes).

Ok I'll try putting oil down there, I'll also change my plugs just incase they are fowled out. I'll let you know how it goes. Also will the microtech fire up without a narrow band signal? I just figured why hook that up if it's not accurate at all. Thanks again for your help man.

microtech does not need the o2 signal in order to work

ok thanks man.

welcome buddy

See how you go and let us know.

You guys are the shit! I put some oil down there and gave it a go. Fired right up :) Then it died, rofl. I guess even though this is a brand new rebuild with new housings and new seals it may just need help getting started. Man this thing sounds mean too, it's one thing to hear a half bridge port on the computer and it's a completely different thing hearing one in real life!! Again rx72c thanks a ton for answering all my dumb questions.

Put alittle bit more oil.
Get it running. And keep it running.

ALso put the opt_mixtrm at 10%.

GET IT WARM.

I was there when it fired for the first time, and Cam is right! That thing sounded like a Bad Mother when she roared to life!

You better get it up and running if you plan on keeping up with my hopeful FD

Will do, again I'll let you know how it goes! Finally some hope :D

well fellas I got the car started again and let it run this time for about 30 minutes or so. Besides the exhaust leak and an oil leak at the return line all seemed well. After 30 minutes I stoped it and then tried turning it back on without putting oil in the plug holes..... IT WORKED :) Now to sort out a few issues and I should be ready for a good tune! Thanks again rx72c for all your help. I owe you a few beers :D

hahahah.
Express post the beers down to aus. HAHAHAH
Good shit mate.
Get a vid up of it running.
I dont think anybody minds hearing a nice angry bridgeport.

How does it rev and so on? Does it idle ok?
How much changes did you have to do to the map to get it to work on your car?

:rofl: sounds good man, I may just express post myself, I'd love to go visit austialia one day, see the sites and all the bad ass rotaries down there. Anyways for sure after I get a few things fixed with the leaks and the throttle cable I'll take a video of it, see what yall think. I still haven't gotten it to idle just because of the throttle cable but as soon as I get a tc that actually fits my car I'll let it idle on it's own and post up if I had to change anything from the original map you gave me. Damn, I can't wait to start rippin' up the roads :)

damnit! I can not get my car to idle. What do you think I'm doing wrong? I tried messin' with the mixtrim and it doesn't look like it changes anything. Any help would be great! Thanks.

Can you do a datalog and a vid for me while your trying to get it to idle?

Also will it "idle" if you hold the throttle alittle bit?

I was going to post a datalog but it said not the right format. I'll see what i can do about that. I'll take a movie of it running tomorrow and yes it will hold the rpms at 1k or 1.5k if I hold down the gas.

oh and can I zero in the microtech timing without the car being able to idle correctly?

yes you can


what are you trying to get it to idle at?
maybe you just need to raise the idle?

Well I've tried to put the idle set screw all the way out but all that does is make the tps read at like 50% witch isn't cool for idle. I'm going to check if I've got any vac leaks and also set timing and take a video and post it. I'll see if I can get you some data logs as well. Thanks for the replies.