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chango de naranjito 01-04-09 11:10 AM

Question for moderator
 
I plan to do a instalation for a friend,and whant to use a msd 6a ignition box here is my question,can I use an igniter to sen the signal to the white wire of the msd? I plan to use a toyota tacoma igniter becose I know it uses a 5v signal to fire 3 coils(I work for toyota) and send the coil- to fire the coils it that posible?

muythaibxr 01-04-09 06:47 PM

I don't know, we used a Crane unit to fire leading on a friend's rx7 by letting the crane take a signal from the stock ignitor.

I've never used the MSD unit.

Ken

chango de naranjito 01-04-09 10:56 PM


Originally Posted by muythaibxr (Post 8847706)
I don't know, we used a Crane unit to fire leading on a friend's rx7 by letting the crane take a signal from the stock ignitor.

I've never used the MSD unit.

Ken

the other thing that came to my mind is using a Bosch BIP373 Coil Driver to send the signal to the msd because the msd uses the negative terminal of the coil to fire. and triger the driver from pad1 of the v3.57 what you think?

muythaibxr 01-05-09 03:22 PM

Again, I don't know anything about the MSD unit. I'd need to see the manual for that.

Ken

elturbonitroso 01-05-09 11:33 PM


Originally Posted by chango de naranjito (Post 8848285)
the other thing that came to my mind is using a Bosch BIP373 Coil Driver to send the signal to the msd because the msd uses the negative terminal of the coil to fire. and triger the driver from pad1 of the v3.57 what you think?

you can drive the msd directly from the - side of the led but i dont know if you can use the spark output invert with the rotaty engines.

pmrobert 01-06-09 05:09 AM

GIS is your friend - http://www.megamanual.com/ms2/msd6a.htm

elturbonitroso 01-06-09 06:43 PM


Originally Posted by pmrobert (Post 8852292)

that should work.

chango de naranjito 01-06-09 08:39 PM


Originally Posted by elturbonitroso (Post 8854167)
that should work.

ok I got it!!!I dont know why I dont think this before, is more easier to conect the stock coils from a turbo II with the shock igniters and conect the msd from the negative terminal of the coils to the white wire of the msd box to triger the msd unit

chango de naranjito 01-06-09 08:54 PM

thanks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

elturbonitroso 01-07-09 06:00 PM


Originally Posted by chango de naranjito (Post 8854567)
ok I got it!!!I dont know why I dont think this before, is more easier to conect the stock coils from a turbo II with the shock igniters and conect the msd from the negative terminal of the coils to the white wire of the msd box to triger the msd unit

or if you want a clean look you can do the 2n2222 circuit if its prove that works and you dont have to use the t2 igniters.

chango de naranjito 01-07-09 07:25 PM


Originally Posted by elturbonitroso (Post 8857251)
or if you want a clean look you can do the 2n2222 circuit if its prove that works and you dont have to use the t2 igniters.

but I think the 2n2222 transistor trigers with a 5v signal and the signal of the leds is a ground swithing signal,:scratch: I am right?

elturbonitroso 01-07-09 11:47 PM

i think that you're right but option 1 i think that you can use the top of r26,27 and 29 for that or option 2 use a 5volt pull to trigger the 2n2222.

pmrobert 01-08-09 06:44 AM

Re the 2222 - it makes absolutely no difference logically if vcc(+) is constantly provided and the ground(-) is pulsed as opposed to constantly grounding the appropriate pin and pulsing the vcc(+). GIS these terms: NPN, PNP, source vs sink vs drain, pullup, pulldown. With a little creativity, careful deliberation and self education you'll be able to fully understand the concept of using a transistor as a high speed switch and be very comfortable with what you come up with. Yes, you can switch 12v with a logic level (5V) pulse.

-Mike

chango de naranjito 01-08-09 04:52 PM


Originally Posted by pmrobert (Post 8858983)
Re the 2222 - it makes absolutely no difference logically if vcc(+) is constantly provided and the ground(-) is pulsed as opposed to constantly grounding the appropriate pin and pulsing the vcc(+). GIS these terms: NPN, PNP, source vs sink vs drain, pullup, pulldown. With a little creativity, careful deliberation and self education you'll be able to fully understand the concept of using a transistor as a high speed switch and be very comfortable with what you come up with. Yes, you can switch 12v with a logic level (5V) pulse.

-Mike

:scratch: :scratch: :Wconfused

pmrobert 01-08-09 08:19 PM


Originally Posted by chango de naranjito (Post 8860532)
:scratch: :scratch: :Wconfused

Just trying to help. My apologies.

chango de naranjito 01-09-09 06:35 AM


Originally Posted by pmrobert (Post 8861228)
Just trying to help. My apologies.

no no no sorry I dont mean that, is just dont understand all the terms I am new to all this electronic stuff you know and whant to learn everything I can from you:bigthumb:

pmrobert 01-10-09 07:07 AM

Apologies for the inadvertent apology, I misinterpreted your message! You have PM....

-Mike


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