Well this could go on for a lifetime and I think I have better things to do... If the people that have bought bumpers or whatever want to come forward and tell you thats fine..

So basically you try to screw people first and if they complain you might think about changing the price haha that pretty funny.

Sounds to me you knock on the Original stuff to help promote Knock-off bumpers and thats fine I guess, maybe thats why the prices are all jacked up, to help promote knock-offs.

I asked about oil coolers because I was curious of how good they work. Im not going to waste the guys over heres time to ask 10,000 questions on parts when someone is already dicussing it on the forums.. I dont have an over heating problem... Near did hope I never will...

Let just get off the holes thing I already said to Rx7tt95 that I missunderstood, do you speak english? Ok then im not saying it again for you..

A long time ago on the C-west bumper things, I couldnt see the picture that good and it looked like Sanai. So what If I cant see the picture then good im supose to just agree? NOT, I just threw a new idea in there, because thats what it truly looking like concedering I couldnt see the smaller holes by the oil coolers. SO?

People have asked me on PMs if I have any copies of the RE wide body kit, that was a long time back and I said check RotaryExtreme, because I heard your store was pretty good, and did knock offs and some one recently asked about if anyone sells what I do in the states, and I said Rotary extreme and Rx7Store. Sorry I dont keep those e-mails, I need the room for the people with other questions for my way.... I told this to the HPI guys, and somewhere elese I would have to dig, I have no problem sending people anywhere to get the best deal. I mean sometimes overseas shipping isnt fast enough for PFCs or quick fixs and I send those people to RX7 store, I got NO problems sending anyone business I like to keep it friendly...

As for me directing people my way, yes I do that sometimes, so do you, what company on here doesnt.
If I have ever ran anyone over then thats my bad, but when someone asks who has the cheapest this and that, I direct them best that I can. Right now all of my used parts come from Yahoo auction I dont make any money, they ask for a perticular part I look for it, I bid on it and thats what they pay plus the shipping of course... I actually lost a few bucks my first couple weeks and I dont even mind that, if I promise something I come threw the best that I can even if it has to come out of my own pocket. I have buyer confidentualty but someone in Canada bought some parts and I made a small mistake threw my our words. So he keep the mistake part and said this is fine, and I said no thats ok, I will send the correct part and its free...

So dont talk to me about business ethics. I try to get people the best deal, and put out new parts as I hear about them. Im not in it for the money, im in it for the fun and help people get parts from over here. I always here parts are too expensive from Japan, and now I know what web page they have been visiting...

Now I need to explain some process of making the replica bumper and some facts.

The holes on the FEED original bumper are drilled but on the top flange those are off by 1/8"

Before we make a mold out of the original, we fill up those holes on the original with clay so when the mold is made, the marks are still there and after that, we can simply pill off the clay to get the original bumper back to the original shape. That's why we didn't fill up the whole flange with fiberglass first and redrill those holes. I kind of intended that way so I can prove to people the original does not always fit perfectly. But it does fit nicely. There is no question about it.

Isn't it funny that now we have to come down to the holes on the bumpers? So what's next?

About the RE Amemiya GT II carbon fiber wing, I have a few people asking now. So let me see if I can get the prices down if we buy more than one at a time. Or let's do it this way. The Japanse price is 138000 Yen but now they sell it at 10% off for 124200 Yen. In Japan, they add 5% sales tax even for exporting so the price goes to 124200*1.05=130410 Yen. At an exchange rate of 120 Yen to a Dollar, it's 1087 Dollar. When it gets to the US, the custom is 5% so the price goes to $1141+shipping from Japan to US. How about $1250-$1300 shipped to your door? Or should I make a replica of it, improve the structure and sell it for $1400-$1500? The one I got is hand-laid carbon fiber, not the vacuum bagged one which goes for $2500 (too expensive, I am too poor to afford it). How about I have the vacuum bagged one made for around $1400-$1500? How about I make the stands in vacuum bagged carbon fiber too like the C West one? Email me if you any of you want to buy the original or want to get some vacuum bagged full carbon fiber wing for about $1000 less. I will get some prices worked out after I see if there is enough interest.

Chuck Huang

Jason:

If you want to pick on the RE Widebodykit for an example that I screw people, that's fine. Like I said, do you know how much shipping is on that thing? Your other prices are very comparable to mine. If you are not here for the money, why don't you just sell it at cost plus your hourly labor of $10 an hour for making phone calls and packaging boxes? You sound like you belong to the charity business. The one person in Japan that I think is really hooking people up is Jesee Lau. Even know I don't know him, I can just tell he is really there to help people to get JDM parts by his posts and other people's comments. At least he does not talk shit about you like you did to him. Do you see me talking shit about him or his talking shit about me because we all sell some kind of Japanse parts? NO! You are the only one that does that on the forum. Inukai, the Japanse race car driver? Did you laugh at his English? You are just one rude dude that has no respect for other people.

Don't make it seem like I am the one that screws people. Like I said, I have heard people on the mailing list saying you screwed them and take caution with you. So far, most of my customers are very happy with my stuff. Can't you see it? When people got the replica bumpers on their cars and be happy with it, you have to come here to make some comments. For what? You just can't admit the replica can fit nicely as well right? Feel a little disappointed?

I sell original to promote knock offs? What kind of weed are you smoking now? Original are more expensive no matter what. PERIOD!. Can you tell me that your cost on the original is the same as my retail price on the copies? If you think I just have those original links to promote my replica, how do you explain I DO get original bodykits. I do have the connections. Am I bull shitting? No. If they want original parts, yes I can get those.

Do I speak English? What am I typing now? Japanse?

I don't really care if you direct people my way or not. At least so far from what I have seen on the forum regarding your comments about my products, it's all negative in some sort of way. Maybe you will say, yeah, it looks great after your negative comments. Of course it looks great. Everyone who sees it can tell. So if you plan to say it looks great from the very beginning, why do you even bother to bring out all the negative comments.

I like to work with other vendors and I don't start crap with anyone if he does not mess with me first. You have said so much on the forum regarding my product without knowing the quality of it or anything about it. First of all, you don't have one. How can you make comment on something that you have not seen, touched, smell, etc? I have seen all your commentsl but I don't want to say anything at the very beginning. But today, I think it's getting out of hand and I don't have my patience anymore. If you want to twist the fact and make me seem like a rip off vendor, that's fine. The fact is people who made their purchases are mostly happy with what they got and how much they paid for. You can see right here, I do have a lot of supports from the customers.

You can promote your products all you want. I have no problem with that. It's not my forum. As long as the moderators have no problem with you, it's all fine with me. But once you start talking crap about my products, don't expect me just to sit around doing nothing. The bottom line is, everything I say about you and about my products, I have proof in the form of pictures or your own posts.

Chuck Huang

Michel, your car looks great. I didn't know you made $150 - $400/hr??? Wow! That is quite impressive! You told me about the Overboost situation in the past and given the circumstances that you told me (I don't know Overboost's side of the story), I don't blame you for not sending the rest of the articles. This may be off topic, but what cameras do you use/own? I currently have the Coolpix 995, am comtemplating purchasing a 5700 or go full blown w/ a D1X.

Chuck: You and I have had a discussion about originals vs. replicas a while back. I'm not going to bring it back up, but your car does look nice. Nice spoiler.

Jason: I'm not a big fan of replicas. IMO, it doesn't help the industry as a whole, BUT essentially, people do what they want. Some people don't mind replicas, some do. Although for my own vehicles, I will not purchase replicas. Others may. It is a matter of preference and this type of debate comes up every few months.

Again, Michel...your car looks great!

May i suggest something? If you don't like replicas body kits, Just don't look in those posts.

People do what they like to their cars. You don't like to put it on your car. Fine then don't put it on. There is no need to debate about it. Period.

Ther is a old saying, " If you have nothing good to say, keep it to yourself."

Neo, are you replying in regards to my post or everyone in general?

I'm not creating a debate on this thread. I just stated my views and I did comment about the quality job that was done to Michel's car. Chuck's car is also very nice.

It would be easier to avoid threads pertaining to replicas IF they were stated as such (in the title)...that it was in regards to a replica body kit. I did state that "I" would not choose to put a replica on my car, but that was my opinion. I did not bash anyone in my post.

DomFD3S:

Replica vs Orginal is an old topic but it's brought up everytime some replica of mine is done. I am just very curious. How come no one has problems with other rx-7 vendors making replica. Why am I always the center of the attention? Should I be happy or sad?

I know you don't believe me but I do try hard to sell original parts. For example, the RE Amemiya GT II wing, it's probalby going to cost the same to make the replica of the hand laid one than just selling the original one. I rather save myself some trouble selilng the original than spending time and money to make the replica. If I do, I will try to make it better and cheaper at the same time.

Another problem is the cost. Even when I try to sell the original at my cost, I still have a very hard time selling it. Even sold at cost, it's still too expensive for people to afford. So I don't really think I am taking business away from FEED or any other companies. My replica parts really have zero or minimum effect on thier US sales. Can you honest tell me the FEED type II bumper sold for $1250 shipped isn't a great deal compared to $1600-1700? There are some peole that say they will only purchase original parts but why am I not selling any at this point? Actually sometimes I think if without me, they will probably sold one less FEED type II bumper or any of other products that I have purchased.

Of course, I do make money on the replica parts. If people can get what they want for cheaper, I can make some money, and I can even give the original bodykit manufacturers some business, why not? We can even do a survey right now. If there is no FEED type II replica at this time, who is willing to pay $1600-1700 for a bumper and have the money to buy right now. We should all know the answer. I even have people complaing about the FEED replica being too expensive at $750. Imagine if it's a $1700 bumper.

I don't have replicas on alll the original parts. I still don't make any sales on other original parts that have no replica counterparts. All the original parts I bought ended up on my car or just sitting in the warehouse collecting dust.

I am not here to take other people's business or get people out of business. Attila is making the Mazdaspeed replica hood. You think I don't have the ability to make one too? That one is actually much easier to make than the Scoot replica hood. But why do I want to do that to take away other people's business? I am not that selfish that only I can have this piece of pie. So I have no intention to hurt the Japanse vendor's business as well. They really have no market here based on my experience. Why do you think replica exists? It's because the original is just too damn expensive for regular consumers to afford, especially for an almost 10-year-old car. I have spent a lot of money on my car and I still can't justify on putting on a 8k-9k bodykit on my car without worrying about people crashing into me. Now I have that GT II wing and it's so easy to steal. I am so damn worry about it that I want to make a replica just in case it gets stolen. I like the style and I know it's functional but I can't justify paying another $1200 for it when it's stolen if I know I can make it myself cheaper with better quality. Money is money. That's the cruel fact. Some stuff in Japan are very overpriced and those can be made cheaper with the same quality. Some will cost the same or even more such as the C West GT wing. Anyways, replica vs original is something that's very controversial. When a replica fits almost as good as the original, that's even more controversial and makes a lot of those arguments invalid. I am pretty sure this topic will come up again in another couple of weeks.

Just thought of something that's really funny. I have the carbon fiber Knight Sports wing and hood made 2 years ago and now Knight Sports starts to make those in carbon fiber. Maybe replica is one way to push the original company to come out with new stuff. So the bottom line is, customers always win.

Chuck Huang

Did everyone happen to miss the fact that I stated "it is a matter of preference" in regards to replicas or originals? Also, I said that I did not want to bring the original debate back (more or less it seemed to be between Chuck and I), but that was long ago. The only thing that I said in regards to you was that your car looked nice. I didn't care to go into detail about the shipping costs and/or manufacturing costs.

Sorry Michel if your thread was mistakenly hijacked. I only meant to comment on your car and I did not bash anyone in my posts to this thread.

Chuck,
Ok bro, I didnt talk shit, I wasnt talking shit, I even said that because I didnt want to come off the wrong way. I wrote 2 questions because I didnt understand how the holes from the Original had anything to do with the Replica, I dont understand how this doesnt not compute.. I didnt understand, I was asking a QUESTION and I appoligized to Rx7TT95, because I didnt mean to sound like I was talking shit.... I dont know how you copy them, but I do know you dont put them in a copy machine haha. Are you getting this yet...? IT WAS A QUESTION!!

Im sure you saw the thread a while back about these bumpers. There was a lot of discussion there... I didnt want to see the same thing happen here again, which I tried to stop it and it backfired.. People say they suck, people say there cool, and I said I dont care either way, because I know everyone doesnt have money, I just prefer the ORIGINAL.

I didnt say you were the rip of vendor, do you think of yourself that way.

I was saying why Jack up the prices that high, are you hoping a sucker will come by and pay for it.

I make a very small amount on every order or even nothing at all sometimes. Im in just the testing phase of my business im not worried about making money. I will be more concerned about making money later, not that the prices will change, but Im finding things cheaper and cheaper everyday for people. I have actually been told by not one but two vendors to please raise my price on my PFC, I probably will have to soon to keep faith between the companies and I, I dont want to though. I like getting it to people for such a low price. I even cant wait to get used parts in, I get anywhere from 20-30 requests everyday for used parts. Used parts I make almost squat. Someone was asking me for 99spec turbos he said he would pay $1800 for a good used set-up and Im going to do my best to help him out and get him the best price possible. I trully believe its about the consumer, and what they want. Not the money. You ask for $1200, for a $900 bumper, well I would rather sell ten $900 bumpers for $920. I see nothing wrong with it.

I would admit I was pretty heavy into hating the Copied bumpers, due to when I have talked to RE, Panspeed, Etc.. They says with passion about why this curve is here, why i put this here, and anyone that puts that kind of work in their own idea gets my support...
I highly doubt RE, FEED or any others would have anything to do with you knowing you copy any of those bumpers, so you must have a supplier here, or you may even do it over the internet, I know they dont like to ship international, so actually im pretty sure you have a supplier here. Japanese dont dig that type of stuff thats why you wouldnt find many if any copies of bumpers around here... No its not like im going to tell or anything, not that it would matter if I did. Thats just why I support these guys, not what I sell HELL buy it from them and tell them I sent you and I can get you my other 5% discount. Doesnt matter, but these guys deserve and trust people not to mess up there products and make money off them...

I dont remembet saying your bumper sucks or anything of that nature did I? If I did maybe I should take another hit off the pipe, because I dont remmeber that. I remember asking a bunch of questions....

Also I havent heard a single bad review, now you may make stuff up, but I have never heard any problems with JT-Imports or my business pratices.

Maybe I have pissed a couple people off on here, but so have you and everyone else. Thats life....

DOMFD3S, I agree with you man. I wont have any replicas either.

NEO,
Bro... I just asked a question and got wheeled over for it. I was curious how the bumper looked for info puposes. So far I havent see a bad fit on a original or a replica. I simply asked what does the holes on the original have to do with the replica, since he has the replica? Isnt that a question? I was curious.... DAMN

Also did you get my PM from the other day.?

Can't we all just get along

forreal, were all in this whoel thing for the love of the RX-7, whether it be 1st, gen, 2nd gen, 3rd gen, or even other rotary powered cars and some of us even make a living of it by selling bodykits and whatnot, but this whole arguement has got to stop so we can git back to friendly threads:(

who freakin CARES!!!!!
 

car looks NICE!!!!:eek: :eek: :bigthumb:

still debating over that front or the CWEST....:confused:

oh yeah.....
 

what sides are those???:confused:

Dragueur,
Mazdaspeed sides from Rotary Extreme as well. As is the hood.

Dom, D-1H's. They're "Ok" but not great. If I had my choice it'd be the Canon-1D or the D60 without a doubt. The D1X is again ok, same size CCD but they use software to get the 18mb file size on that camera. The Canon's CCD is much larger (4.7mp?) as opposed to the 2.4 on the D-1's. Doesn't ruin your wide angle lenses as severely either (1.3x for the Canon versus 1.5 for the Nikon. The D60 is a 6mp camera which is about the same resolution as film, but the magnification ratio is 1.6. For consumer stuff, it's hard to beat the Coolpix line however.
Michel

Scoot Hood
 

My friend has an original scoot hood that fits like a charm. If chance permit I'll take some pic.

Quality is super nice! One thing about fitment is making sure the car hasn't been into any front end impact of any kind, if that's the case, then it could be a matter of quality control.

Timmy

Re: Scoot Hood
 

Timmy:

I am at West Covina right now. I would like to meet your friend to check out his original Scoot hood. Mine is stored at the South El Monte warehouse. I want to see why his fits perfectly and mine fits like crap. BTW, I am leaving for Bay Area in the afternoon. Please email me at rotaryextreme@aol.com if you have time to arrange a meeting before 2pm on Saturday. Thanks.

Chuck

I read the bad review about you on the rx7 mailing list. I think there is a digest version on the internet. It happened about 1-2 weeks ago. Check it out yourself or some of the forum members might have seen it as well. I don't make stuff up.

Maybe you don't express yourself too well or maybe I am just too defensive. If we can get along, that's cool.

Sometimes prices are high for a reason. The way I do business is that the first time, I will have to make money. The 2nd time you purchase from me, I can give you a much better deal because I value return customers alot. Another reason is that if you are already selling stuff at only 5-10% above your cost, there isn't much margin to bargain. And you also have to consider the fluctuation of the currency exchange rate. I can't change my prices according to the exchange rate every day or every week. I don't have time for that. So that's why I mark up the prices little higher so I have enough margin to compensate the current exchange rate. You can always sell cheaper than your list price but if you raise the price because Yen appreciates, customers won't like too much about it. A couple of months ago, the exchange rate was about 138 yen to a dollar and now it's about 120-125 yen to a dollar. As you can see, the exchange rate matters a lot in this business. So most import vendors mark the prices according to 100 yen to a dollar which is about the highest Yen can appreciates to. Unless the US economy crashes, there is pretty much no way Yen can appreciatres less than 100 yen to a dollar.

You don't really have to raise your prices because other vendors compalin to you. It's a free market. But there is a profit margin you can keep for you to survive. I am not telling you or anyone else how to run the business. I am just sharing my own experience.

Chuck Huang

psst...what wheels are those?
They look great.

nevermind..i just looked at the next thread..they are Ray's (i think)

Chuck, just out of curiosity, do you use your own replicas on your very own FD? Is that 15th anniversary fender flare the orginal MS or your own? The same question goes to the front bumper.


I've seen some original Scoot hoods that Tony has sold to some people and they all fit perfectly with no modifications. The same goes wih the FEED front bumper, I have an original to and it fits very nicely

1FookntiteFD:

Sorry to disappoint you. The one you bought is my replica. I just found out it was sold to you as a real thing. I sold it to a customer and the customer sold it to his friend and his friend sold it to you. Go to the guy that sold to you and demand your money back if you pay more than $860 for it ($750+8% cali tax+$50 shipping) The replica has no holes predrilled on them. Yours has no hole predrilled right? On oil cooler ducts there are no clips to hold the mesh right?

I don't sell the replica as the original but when it goes around, sometimes my replica turns out to be sold as the original so now I am going to tell you a few things to distinquish between the replica and the original.

1. The original is heavier.
2. The original has holes predrilled
3. The original has the clipes to put on the mesh and it comes with mesh
4. the replica is lighter and more flexible like urethane.

Again, I don't sell the replica as original but when it's out of my hand, I don't know if the one that got it will claim it as the original and resells for the original price.

I am sorry that you got screwed but that also shows my replica is as good as the original in your eyes.

Chuck Huang

1fookntitefd:

On my car, I am using the original C west front, replica mazdaspeed sideskirts and flares, and original RE Amemiya GT II wing. Sometimes original ends up on my car is not because I don't trust my own replica kits. it's because after I am done with it, I don't have any buyers for it such as on the original FEED type II bumper and the original scoot sports hood.

Now you found out the bumper you bought is actually a replica. I still have the original available, you want to buy it for $1250? I can have it shipped to you right away or you prefer to keep the replica? Let me know.

Chuck Huang

Yes, the wheels are Volk Racing SE37A's, in bronze, 18x9.5" all the way around with 265/35/18 tires. If I remember correctly the offset was 38mm. I'll have to look again unless Rishie remembers off hand. I do run coil-overs.
Michel

I'm sick and tired of every body part thread becoming a replica/original debate.

rx7tt95, please start another thread showing how nice your front end came out so that you can get more praises out of it, and more detailed pictures would be nice :)

For the rest of you, if you want to continue this debate, start a different thread for it. If ANYONE continues this debate in rx7tt95 new thread for his bumper, I will delete that reply with no explanation. Stop hashing someone else's thread for your little disagreements on replicas.