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DamonB 08-03-06 07:47 AM

Need a component speaker system?
 
Madisound has a killer price on a 5.5" Vifa component system they are blowing out. I guarantee this sounds at least as good or better than anything you've heard at $500 or less (and probably better than anything you've ever heard at any price).

http://www.madisound.com/cgi-bin/ind...13930&pid=2129

SayNoToPistons 08-03-06 08:03 AM

wow... swap out the Infinity Reference for this? hmm... maybe i should... seems like a great deal!!

RETed 08-04-06 12:06 PM

40-watts RMS? O_o


-Ted

DamonB 08-04-06 04:55 PM


Originally Posted by RETed
40-watts RMS? O_o


-Ted

That's plenty. If you wanted more you could high pass them at 80 hz or so and run considerably more power without problem.

compuskills 08-04-06 07:30 PM

Yeah,
I guess we get so used to seeing the peak to peak rating on speakers.

RX-7racer88 08-05-06 01:26 AM

Looks like a pretty good deal for what it is. Personaly for the $500 and under I would take a set of focal V2s.

Green_Streak 08-05-06 04:32 AM

hmm... my bostons sound pretty darn good. you ought to show me those sound better

RETed 08-05-06 06:38 AM


Originally Posted by DamonB
That's plenty. If you wanted more you could high pass them at 80 hz or so and run considerably more power without problem.

I have an Adcom 2 x 75W waiting to push some front stage...
I've been looking around for some front speakers, but I can't make up my mind.
I was down to...
MB Quart - economical
Diamond Audio - expensive
Dynaudio - gawd, I gotta wait for my next paycheck

Although I prefer a 6.5" anchoring the front stage, I'll give that Madisound set a try just due to the price...


-Ted

88 GTU 08-05-06 08:40 AM

Good let us know how they are because i'm in the market for 6 1/2 component set for the rears

SayNoToPistons 08-05-06 08:53 AM

^ theyre 5.5".

purerx7 08-06-06 07:30 PM

mmm adcom makes some sweet amps. Seems like a good deal on the vifas, personally I would run the seas lotus actively but thats just me.

DamonB 08-07-06 08:22 AM


Originally Posted by purerx7
Seems like a good deal on the vifas, personally I would run the seas lotus

Not for $120 you're not.

purerx7 08-07-06 09:34 AM

seas lotus mids and lpg tweets will be around $200 and will sound better than the vifas.

crimmeny 08-07-06 10:34 AM

How difficult would it be to put these in the doors? I have a 93 with the Bose system. I was considering a 4" component set to ease installation.

DamonB 08-07-06 11:13 AM


Originally Posted by purerx7
seas lotus mids and lpg tweets will be around $200

Nope.

Here's the US distributor listed on Seas Lotus web page:

http://www.mobilesq.com/

...The price of a single Lotus woofer alone is $189. The Lotus component set costs a mere $745 Your calculator must work different than mine.

DamonB 08-07-06 11:22 AM


Originally Posted by crimmeny
How difficult would it be to put these in the doors? I have a 93 with the Bose system.

These should fit fine. You'll still most likely have to build a simple mounting plate after you remove the Bose components though.

purerx7 08-07-06 04:32 PM

hmm true i would do the lpg tweets though. You could do the lpg tweets and the seas excel mids for around 400 or the lpg tweets and the vifa mids, im just not a big fan of the vifa tweets. But thats just me either way the vifas are a really good deal but if it was me I would pay the extra money and go the seas/lpg route. The image dynamics chameleon component set has gotten really good reviews and can be had for around $200 on ebay.

RETed 08-09-06 08:26 AM

Just ordered them yesterday, so they still have them in stock.
I guess I'll drop a review on them once I get everything wired up. :)

Because I do live in Hawaii, UPS shipping was going to be $45, but I got a follow-up email from a CSR that told me they could do U.S. Postal for $21, although they don't list it as an option when you do check out.
For ~$130 shipped it's not a bad deal...


-Ted

driFDer 08-09-06 01:49 PM

Sounds like a great deal. Vifa is good stuff. RETed make sure you do some door deadening if you want them to sound even better.

DamonB 08-11-06 08:20 AM


Originally Posted by RETed
Because I do live in Hawaii....told me they could do U.S. Postal for $21

Just curious how many extra days it takes the postal service to get things from the continent to the islands?

RETed 08-11-06 09:06 AM


Originally Posted by DamonB
Just curious how many extra days it takes the postal service to get things from the continent to the islands?

Usually 2 - 3 extra days on average...


-Ted

RETed 08-16-06 02:42 AM

Just came in...
Ordered on 08 / 08 and came in 08 / 15, so it was about a week total.
It came in USPS insured!

Initial observations...
Woofer - very nice - I've only messed with Vifa dome midranges before, but I was impressed for what I got for $110.
The woofer is carbon fiber cone with a cast aluminum basket.
Woofer surround looks like butyl or nitrile rubber.
The magnet is pretty hefty.
I'm sure Madisound has all the nitty gritty specs on their website / catalog.
Tweeter - looks like silk dome or some kinda soft dome.
The profile is very small.
There was an angled, surface mount housing and a swivel, adjustable, flush mount housing.
This gives you a lot of options in terms of mounting the tweeter.
Lots of hardware was included - mounting screws, gold plated connectors.
The tweeters had their own built-in grill, but the woofers came with no grill - I guess it's assumed it'll be hidden behind your stock OEM speaker grill.
It's ashame to hide those nice carbon fiber cones!
Now...about those passive crossover units...they are rebadged Nakamichi.
Peaking into the clear, removable covers, the resistors / caps / inductors are stamped "Nakamichi" all over.
Flip the cover over (there is a generic wiring schematic sticker on the cover), and it's has "Nakamichi" clearly silkscreened on it.
Passive crossover network uses some really nice components in it.
There is a selector switch for woofer(?) phase.
There is a 3-way selector switch for tweeter level: -3dB, 0, +3dB (I think).

Woofers were packed in their own cardboard "sleeve" and tightly wrapped in "Saran wrap".
There were plastic stand-off's to keep the front of the woofer from contacting the cardboard.
Tweeters were in their own foam box - no worries about getting damaged.

You guys are right - for the money, it just can't be beat.
I had a set of MB Quart ".2" components a while back, and these things blow the MB Quarts out of the water for 1 / 2 the price!
I can't wait to install them, but this might take a while to get a real good review on how they sound.
So far, just by looking at them, they are worth the money.
Madisound took care of me on this sale, and these are serious underpriced!

I can take pics if anyone wants them...

Hope this helps!


-Ted

DamonB 08-16-06 09:00 AM


Originally Posted by RETed
I'm sure Madisound has all the nitty gritty specs on their website / catalog.

The woofer specs are listed on the sale page:

Vifa MG13WN01-04 Woofer Specs:

Outside diameter 140mm (5.5")
Cutout diameter 112mm (4.4")
Depth 57mm (2.25")
Magnet diameter 80mm (3.15")

Fs = 58.09 Hz
Qms = 2.372
Vas = 7.9 liters
Cms = 0.848 mm/N
Mms = 8.85 g
Xmax = 3 mm
Sd = 81 sq.cm
Qes = 0.527
Re = 3.6 ohms
Le = 0.432 mH
BL = 4.697 Tm
Pe = 40 watts
Qts = 0.431
1-W SPL = 86.67 dB
2.83-V SPL = 90.14 dB

The tweeters are Vifa D26NC05.



Originally Posted by RETed
Madisound took care of me on this sale, and these are serious underpriced!

Madisound has been around a long time and they're great to work with. Home audio DIY'ers have been doing business with them for years.

Stuff like this typically contains recently discontinued speakers that the seller has bought a large quantity of, so the prices are a steal. On the other hand you guys don't realize the enormous markup you're paying when you buy over the counter so this price sounds much too good to be true. Very few companies actually build their own speaker drivers, they buy them from places like Vifa, Focal, Audax, Eton, Seas etc and put it in their own box with their name on it. For that you get to pay 300% more ;)

The proof will be in the pudding. Glad to hear the equipment looks nice but how it sounds is what counts. Don't be afraid to experiment a lot with the tweeter settings.

gracer7-rx7 08-16-06 09:17 AM

how would these compare to say a Boston Acoustic setup?

I'm an audio neophyte...

DamonB 08-16-06 09:27 AM

For less than $30 you can get a pair of true 5.25" coaxials with real tweeters:

http://www.madisound.com/cgi-bin/ind....7723&pid=1927

Audax is a highly respected company that makes drivers for many high end speaker companies. Probably a limited quantity of these as well.

DamonB 08-16-06 09:28 AM


Originally Posted by gracer7-rx7
how would these compare to say a Boston Acoustic setup?

I'm an audio neophyte...

Probably better or worst case at least as good as anything they make right now.

KNONFS 08-17-06 06:04 AM


Originally Posted by DamonB
Madisound has a killer price on a 5.5" Vifa component system they are blowing out. I guarantee this sounds at least as good or better than anything you've heard at $500 or less (and probably better than anything you've ever heard at any price).

http://www.madisound.com/cgi-bin/ind...13930&pid=2129

Good Info!!

VIFA use to make the goold ol Eclipse (by fujitsu ten) component speakers (8051 & 8061 almost sure those were the model numbers), they also used to make the speakers for cliff desings.

GOOD STUFF!

On the other hand, I would always loose a tweeter every single time I had to disconnect the sound system. Nothing major, $20 buck used to get me a new one.

Thanks fo the link :icon_tup:

KNONFS 08-17-06 06:14 AM


Originally Posted by RETed
I have an Adcom 2 x 75W waiting to push some front stage...
I've been looking around for some front speakers, but I can't make up my mind.
I was down to...
MB Quart - economical
Diamond Audio - expensive
Dynaudio - gawd, I gotta wait for my next paycheck

Although I prefer a 6.5" anchoring the front stage, I'll give that Madisound set a try just due to the price...


-Ted

These speakers are VERY tall, with a heavy size magnet. Seting them up on kick panels, and door molds for front stage is not an easy task due to their dimensions (kind of like the Bostons Acoustics).

It is not impossible (you know that), but they are not the easiset speakers to work with if you are setting them up on kick panels on a FC :redface:

KNONFS 08-17-06 06:21 AM


Originally Posted by RETed
Just came in...
Ordered on 08 / 08 and came in 08 / 15, so it was about a week total.
It came in USPS insured!

Initial observations...
Woofer - very nice - I've only messed with Vifa dome midranges before, but I was impressed for what I got for $110.
The woofer is carbon fiber cone with a cast aluminum basket.
Woofer surround looks like butyl or nitrile rubber.
The magnet is pretty hefty.
I'm sure Madisound has all the nitty gritty specs on their website / catalog.
Tweeter - looks like silk dome or some kinda soft dome.
The profile is very small.
There was an angled, surface mount housing and a swivel, adjustable, flush mount housing.
This gives you a lot of options in terms of mounting the tweeter.
Lots of hardware was included - mounting screws, gold plated connectors.
The tweeters had their own built-in grill, but the woofers came with no grill - I guess it's assumed it'll be hidden behind your stock OEM speaker grill.
It's ashame to hide those nice carbon fiber cones!
Now...about those passive crossover units...they are rebadged Nakamichi.
Peaking into the clear, removable covers, the resistors / caps / inductors are stamped "Nakamichi" all over.
Flip the cover over (there is a generic wiring schematic sticker on the cover), and it's has "Nakamichi" clearly silkscreened on it.
Passive crossover network uses some really nice components in it.
There is a selector switch for woofer(?) phase.
There is a 3-way selector switch for tweeter level: -3dB, 0, +3dB (I think).

Woofers were packed in their own cardboard "sleeve" and tightly wrapped in "Saran wrap".
There were plastic stand-off's to keep the front of the woofer from contacting the cardboard.
Tweeters were in their own foam box - no worries about getting damaged.

You guys are right - for the money, it just can't be beat.
I had a set of MB Quart ".2" components a while back, and these things blow the MB Quarts out of the water for 1 / 2 the price!
I can't wait to install them, but this might take a while to get a real good review on how they sound.
So far, just by looking at them, they are worth the money.
Madisound took care of me on this sale, and these are serious underpriced!

I can take pics if anyone wants them...

Hope this helps!


-Ted

Damn, I guess I should've read the whole thread before posting my .02 cents :wallbash:

Good luck with them, you will love them (for their price, there is no subsitute)

SayNoToPistons 08-17-06 05:17 PM

is there a way to fit this in the back of a FC?

RETed 08-17-06 10:46 PM

They should fit in the back of the FC no problem.
The tweeter is like a hair over 1" itself, so it's very low profile.
It would be a waste to put them in the shock towers.
That's the worse place to be putting rear fill speakers in a car. :(


-Ted

ddkkww888 08-24-06 07:44 PM

My ICE
 
2 Attachment(s)
Ice: Customized (2/2005):
JVC SHX850 Head unit 35 Watts RMS,
Infinity Kappa speakers, front (2way) 5¼”, rear (3way) 6½”
MTX TA5601 Mono Amp Class D 300 Watts RMS
MTX T7512-04 12” Subwoofer 400 Watts Peak

:djsmile:

SayNoToPistons 08-24-06 09:23 PM

^ :uhh: ... what does that have to do with this thread?

XxMerlinxX 08-24-06 11:19 PM

How would these components stack up against Memphis' M class components?

ddkkww888 08-25-06 11:27 AM

Alternatives
 

Originally Posted by SayNoToPistons
^ :uhh: ... what does that have to do with this thread?

Just giving the person some other alternatives.

ddkkww888 08-25-06 11:29 AM

Components
 

Originally Posted by XxMerlinxX
How would these components stack up against Memphis' M class components?

I would not know. My take is do your research and remember
the audio shops will try to sell their system. I m always looking
the biggest bang for the $dollar.

ddkkww888 08-25-06 11:34 AM

A Thought
 
Question:

Why would anyone installed more than one subwoofer?
The sound frequenices are Mono not Stereo (left and right).
Would having more than one subwoofer muddle the sound?

XxMerlinxX 12-21-06 11:53 PM

Did anyone ever do a review of how these sounded?

Saten 04-04-07 11:09 PM

How about an update? I want to get one of these myself but i'm afraid that the bass might be lacking a bit compared to entry level 6.5" components i'm used to. I'm not a big bass head and i don't want to add subwoofers to cars because the usual components and 6.5"'s in the rears are enough for me.

Saten 04-11-07 05:06 PM

^

Juan 04-30-07 12:54 AM

Did anyone else try these out?

Saten 04-30-07 03:25 PM

It's still rotting in REted's closet :( .

BOOSTD 7 05-03-07 04:34 PM

I've had that comp set before, they sound decent. I still have a set of those tweets I might recycle, but they're awfully laid back - in a loud RX-7 interior I prefer a more forward tweeter to cut through the road noise. The $120 price is a good deal, they compare more to sets around $175 at most - they sound a lot better if you cross the tweet around 22-2300hz though.

And there's no point of even trying to get bass out of a RX-7's doors. Unless you spend a lot of time sealing it off, it ain't gonna happen. Concentrate on getting good 100hz up performance out of the doors, lets the sub do the rest. Chambered mids also work really well in a 7's doors.

wardaj 06-07-07 01:48 PM

I bought the vifa set a month or so ago, courtesy of this thread. I finished the install last night.

First impressoions: WAY better than stock ( Non-bose) but i have no other system to compare it too.

These speakers sound good but I agree with BOOSTD 7, no bass from the doors. The speakers move but no sound. The doors are not sealed well at all. I considered sealing the speakers but it would be difficult to get much enclosure volume.

I was able to mount the tweets, drivers, and x-over onto the platic panel the stockers came from, with the help of some fiberglass. it was not too much of a pain. The passenger side seemed to have a much tighter fit. There was only 1/4" clearance to the speaker grill and about same between the magnet and the window.

Dont run these without an external amp. I tried out of curiosity and they sounded horrible.


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