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BoOsTin FD 01-07-04 10:07 PM

Hood pins on Stock FD hood.
 
Can I please see some pics of the Hood pins on the FD's. I would prefer stock, and montego blue, but all others are fine. Thanks guys.

Amel

inis 01-07-04 10:18 PM

thats dumb. no funtion. would look like crap. i hope i dont have to see pics.

BoOsTin FD 01-07-04 10:20 PM

Forum is giving me hard time posting pics. Anyway, if anyone is good with photoshop, here is pic of my fd.

RxSeven1 01-07-04 10:39 PM

interesting hood......how do you keep water out?

fd3s93 01-07-04 11:17 PM

uh..im gona agree with inis..you know why they use hood pins right...so..with a stock hood..hood pins would be uslesssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss uuggg doesnt make sense man.

inis 01-07-04 11:27 PM

i hate them because im not really into the look. i didnt want to do them on my hood but i had to protect the investment.

jdhuegel1 01-08-04 12:43 AM


Originally posted by fd3s93
uh..im gona agree with inis..you know why they use hood pins right...so..with a stock hood..hood pins would be uslesssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss uuggg doesnt make sense man.
So you agree that bodykits are pointless too then right? ;)

CCarlisi 01-08-04 01:33 AM

Hood pins look trashy. Add some duct tape while you're at it.

skunks 01-08-04 05:36 AM


Originally posted by inis
thats dumb. no funtion. would look like crap. i hope i dont have to see pics.
im sorry but you are very wrong! the stock hood does sometimes flutter up and down. hood pins do lock them down.

CCarlisi 01-08-04 09:51 AM

Someone backed into my car with an SUV, denting my hood. The next time I closed the hood the rivots holding the latch to the hood failed. However, it still did not open because the latch mounting plate is sandwiched between the skin and frame of the hood and the plate is larger than opening in the hood frame for the latch itself. Therefore even if the rivots attaching the latch to the hood fail it will not fly open. The only way the hood will spring open is if the steel latch fails BEFORE the rivots holding it to the frame fail. It is possible, but there are other things to worry about that are more probable and dont make the car look like a highschool student's wet dream.

RxSeven1 01-08-04 09:52 AM

if i were to get a cf hood i would put hood pins in.....but i wouldnt use pins i'd use small locks

DCrosby 01-08-04 12:07 PM

Yes the locks look significantly better than pins, especially since pins rust due to the friction, and locks don't or do, but not where you can see it...

-DC

rybrx7 01-08-04 12:59 PM

has anybody got any pics of a hood with locks on and a website with a link to where i can get them, not sure if i've ever seen them on an FD?

Ryan

BoOsTin FD 01-08-04 02:47 PM

Well, my hood, as you can see is a little modified. Without rain gourds, just like that on the picture now, the hood doesn't move anywhere past 120mph. However when i put my rain gourds in, for some reason as soon as i go 120-130, it starts to move, like it will open or something.

I'm affraid that it might wrap itself around my winshield, and then i can kiss my ass goodbye.

So for all of you that think it looks ugly or not, Frankly, i don't care, because i need to do somethign about it.

I still haven't seen any pics. So, someone please post some.

Amel

rybrx7 01-08-04 03:28 PM

because most likely with guards off theres suffcient space for the air going in the front to escape, with guards on the air will be smacking against the underneath of the bonnet making it lift.

RxSeven1 01-08-04 06:43 PM

rxrotary2_7 (keith) has small locks....thats where i saw them...i dont think he has pics though

inis 01-08-04 09:01 PM


Originally posted by skunks
im sorry but you are very wrong! the stock hood does sometimes flutter up and down. hood pins do lock them down.
Um no, you're wrong, and obviously a retard. The stock hood in engineered perfectly. Through its design and strong latch, there is absolutely no worry about it randomly flipping up. Unlike many of the poorly constructed aftermarket hoods.

Ya, it rattles a little, but we all know that hood pins will do nothing. Unless you really think the rattling somehow affects the car. In that case, you are even dumber than i originally thought.

the_glass_man 01-10-04 12:02 PM

I don't see anything wrong with hood pins.
Have any of you ever seen how much the stock hood flutters above 140 mph???
It's kind of scary if you ask me, it almost looks like it isn't latched at all.
I've thought about hood pins for the stock hood for this very reason, but will probably refrain from using them until I go with a vented after market hood.

JunpoweR 01-12-04 08:02 PM

YES!!
 
Honestly!!

I feel hood pins or locks are good.
And The stock hood does flutter and shake at high speeds..Everyone wonder why??Well at high speeds,the air traveling through the front vents
cant find a place to escape.Pressure pushing the hood up..Well Hood pins Will help Hold the front of your hood down better,keeping it a little more stable or attached ..also the front is held down by only the lock so only 1 point vs. 2 hinges in the back of the hood.but the Rear of my 89 TURBO II i had before would really Flutter and rise above the body..!!over 130 mph..the hood scoop creates alot of drag and also the pressure is being built up under the hood..!!
But what do we do about this pressure that still exists under the hood??Well venting it or Lifting the hood Can let air escape, thus in my theroy, allowing more air to pass into and through the engine bay allowing more cooling..Here is a link of my mod on this post..Oh and hood locks Will protect your investment But why wouldnt they steal your car first before they take anything underneath??any lock can be broken so i would rather have hood pins with clips=)(just cause it looks faster!!LOL)
https://www.rx7club.com/showthread.p...hreadid=257936 or here is a pic of what i did to my GTUs =) (some hate it some love it..
http://www.drifting.com/forums/attac...=&postid=19036
http://www.drifting.com/forums/attac...=&postid=19034

BoOsTin FD 01-12-04 10:11 PM

is anybody actually going to post any pictures of FD with hood pins, or is this thread just waste of bandwith and space?

BoOsTin FD 01-12-04 10:12 PM

By the way, very nice FC man. I like how clean it looks.

introVert 01-13-04 07:40 AM

Yo- not to hijack, but I'm liking Jun's front end- way sanitary. Is it custom? Looks like removed and smoothed FTP's and an extra hole cut into the center of an S5 nose. Me likes.

jdhuegel1 01-13-04 09:24 AM


Originally posted by BoOsTin FD
is anybody actually going to post any pictures of FD with hood pins, or is this thread just waste of bandwith and space?
Probably not. Most people here just like to flame and argue nowdays.. I say go for it. You're doing it to serve a purpose. SAFETY. Sounds like a smart fucking plan to me. Just like a fire extinguisher... Wonder how many people here thought having one was "RICE" or "POINTLESS" until thier poor FD burned to the ground..

I'm sure we can find some pics somewhere.. Or we can photoshop some..

But for now, I'm off to find the LOUDEST exhaust and SWEETEST blow off valve I can find! Maybe even some hydraulics!! YEE FUCKIN HAW!!

BoOsTin FD 01-13-04 11:12 AM


Originally posted by jdhuegel1
Probably not. Most people here just like to flame and argue nowdays.. I say go for it. You're doing it to serve a purpose. SAFETY. Sounds like a smart fucking plan to me. Just like a fire extinguisher... Wonder how many people here thought having one was "RICE" or "POINTLESS" until thier poor FD burned to the ground..

I'm sure we can find some pics somewhere.. Or we can photoshop some..

But for now, I'm off to find the LOUDEST exhaust and SWEETEST blow off valve I can find! Maybe even some hydraulics!! YEE FUCKIN HAW!!

:rlaugh: man you crack me up every time i read one of your posts :rlaugh: How come you are not this funny when we work on the engine :D

Anyway, i'll start shoping for some nice looking hood pins that don't rust, so maybe we can put them together :)

Amel

DCrosby 01-13-04 11:41 AM

I have to dig through some old posts / pictures.. but it's basically a big silver disk 3" across (diameter) and a oversized computer (cylinder lock( in the middle...

the_glass_man 01-13-04 04:30 PM


Originally posted by BoOsTin FD
is anybody actually going to post any pictures of FD with hood pins, or is this thread just waste of bandwith and space?
Not a stock hood, nor is it my car but here you go.
http://www.negative-camber.org/crisp...oodfinish1.jpg

BoOsTin FD 01-13-04 04:49 PM

thanks. Now see, that doesn't look bad at all. You can barely notice it.

fd3s93 01-13-04 09:49 PM

ok few you guys say its because so you can keep the hood from moving at high speed..thats ok , but he had custom vents on his stock hood..impostering (sp?) a painted carbon hood or fiberglass ,witch need the pins cause its so light.. stop micky mousing the fd.

particleeffect 01-13-04 10:35 PM

my hood needs pins for 80+. i don't have those air deflectors that go behind the head lights. :\ and they are harder to come by than pins. i'm just to lazy to actually get pins.

BoOsTin FD 01-14-04 08:09 AM


Originally posted by fd3s93
ok few you guys say its because so you can keep the hood from moving at high speed..thats ok , but he had custom vents on his stock hood..impostering (sp?) a painted carbon hood or fiberglass ,witch need the pins cause its so light.. stop micky mousing the fd.
is the fd that i have mine or yours? Are you going to tell me what i'm going to do with my own car? Better worry about your own, not mine.

jdhuegel1 01-14-04 10:20 AM


Originally posted by fd3s93
ok few you guys say its because so you can keep the hood from moving at high speed..thats ok , but he had custom vents on his stock hood..impostering (sp?) a painted carbon hood or fiberglass ,witch need the pins cause its so light.. stop micky mousing the fd.

Damn you're a smart one. It's called FUNCTION. What makes venting a stock hood ANY DIFFERENT than upgrading an intercooler? So the guy doesn't feel like spending 5-700 bones on a stupid hood but wants the same function.. On top of that he doesn't have to worry about fitment issues either.. Do you rag on people that mod the stock airbox too? I bet you have your BOV vented "cause it's nice and loud" huh? Carbon hoods and fiberglass hoods are SO MUCH lighter aren't they... Where did you get that? If any of them are lighter it's because there is less structure to them.. Most of them need pins because the latch structure isn't as strong and could break. Imposter? I think YOU are the imposter friend. Stop monkeying around on the forum if you don't know what you're talking about. If you wan't to flame people why don't you look in a mirror.

BoOsTin FD 01-14-04 01:45 PM

well said brother

fd3s93 01-14-04 11:42 PM

what makes a stock hood any differnt then upgrading an intercooler? easy cause its a down grade.

he doesnt want to spend 5-700 on a hood , you call stupid.. well his vents are out in the open..look at other modified hoods the vents are laid under so it doesnt effect the aerodynamics (sp?) as much, since hes talking about speed going 100+ so fuction is out of the window.

do you rag on people that mod the stock airbox too? nope, and i wouldnt cause its called function. imo,i think its better then the open K&n filters cause it doesnt breath in hot air from the bay.

have my bov vented cause its nice and loud? lol, i actually do like the bov loud but vent it so it can be ..nah. :wtf1:

carbon hoods and fiberglass hoods are so much light arent they..? yes, they are..i install themallthe time and you answered the question yourself i believe. and yes, i agree carbon and glass hoods need pins. and im not here to flame people..im here to give my opionion ..its an open forum.

Boostin fd, props for customizing your own hood but youll thank me sooner or later :D :nono:

jdhuegel1 01-15-04 09:10 AM


Originally posted by fd3s93
what makes a stock hood any differnt then upgrading an intercooler? easy cause its a down grade.

he doesnt want to spend 5-700 on a hood , you call stupid.. well his vents are out in the open..look at other modified hoods the vents are laid under so it doesnt effect the aerodynamics (sp?) as much, since hes talking about speed going 100+ so fuction is out of the window.

do you rag on people that mod the stock airbox too? nope, and i wouldnt cause its called function. imo,i think its better then the open K&n filters cause it doesnt breath in hot air from the bay.

have my bov vented cause its nice and loud? lol, i actually do like the bov loud but vent it so it can be ..nah. :wtf1:

carbon hoods and fiberglass hoods are so much light arent they..? yes, they are..i install themallthe time and you answered the question yourself i believe. and yes, i agree carbon and glass hoods need pins. and im not here to flame people..im here to give my opionion ..its an open forum.

Boostin fd, props for customizing your own hood but youll thank me sooner or later :D :nono:


A stock hood is a downgrade? How?

His vents are out in the open? This differs from the Knightsports hood How? And Bomex hoods?

You wouldn't rag on people that mod the stock airbox because it's "function" but you'll rag on someone who modifies a stock hood to function? If you recall, engine bay heat is the #1 cause of engine component failure. You just said that breathing the hot air under the hood isn't good... ;) Vented stock hood = Function.

The Supra hood (Bomex) that looks similar to this one is VERY popular. Never seen where the design has had any ill affects on aerodynamics.. It's vents aren't recessed under a lip or anything as you refer to..

Carbon and Fiberglass hoods on Hondas and Acuras are a big difference in weight.. The Stock FD hood can hardly be improved with the exception of vents.. It's rediculously light for starters..

I'm not here to argue. It just kills me that people will jump all over someone for trying something new and asking a simple technical question but will praise the guy that makes updated looking taillights, wings, marker lights and whatever else..

fd3s93 01-15-04 11:20 PM

a stock hood is a downgrade? how? the way its design and taste. im not gona explain, just look carefully. thats y its so expensive.

vented hood is very functional. i didnt say it wasnt. but his custom hoodwould have a downfall since its out in the open..air would just run straight in his engine and not over it would shake the hood even more imo. if you want the hood to shake less, put tape on the trim of the hood covering all the open vents in the front (only when auto x or some similiar of course)~still my opinion.

cabon and fiberglass hoods on honda and acura are a big difference in weight.. true i agree. The stock fd hood can hardly be improved with the exception of vents...it's rediciously light for starters... maybe you have facts..i dont, i was asuming carbon and fiberglass is light over metal.. ?hell use aluminum :D

I'm not here to argue. It just kills me that people will jump all over someone for trying something new and asking a simple technical question but will praise the guy that makes updated looking taillights, wings, marker lights and whatever else.. well i am here to argue cause i know im always right lol jk. its really not new..cars been around..pple dont do it cause its tacky aka rice ..i thik if its that easy ..many pple would have done it by now and why waste$$$$ ? thats why its so expensive. its in the material, design and taste and of course name.lke everything else, not everyone will praise someone for doing such things.it kills me too , to see such things.. but i dont like the hood mod. :P but he doesnt have to listen to me of couse. (im sure he did that long ago)hehe

SpeedFreak03 01-16-04 02:47 PM

Don't put pins/locks on a stock hood, can you say useless/ugly/waste of time/money?

jdhuegel1 01-16-04 07:14 PM


Originally posted by fd3s93

i was asuming carbon and fiberglass is light over metal.. ?hell use aluminum :D

The stock FD is aluminum. :)

80-CU.IN.T 01-16-04 09:39 PM

I have key locking hood pins and I think they look awful. I will be adding 2 more for safety purposes. I wanted to use Zeus fasteners but I need to keep prying hand out from my engine compartment. Pins are mandatory in my case. I had to remove the stock latch assembly because of my radiator / intercooler setup. ( Very old pick below ) I would suggest everyone use some kind of extra pins if they travel at speeds above 130 mph especially if you have a larger than stock front grill opening. So much air travels though the opening that there is a tremendous amount of pressure on the stock latch. I used to have a carbon fiber hood and got rid of it. ( The link below explains why I got rid of my original stock hood. ) Carbon fiber or fiberglass have too much flex and flutter under speed. The hood, I used, threw off the entire balance of the car at speeds above 100. I have not seen 1 fiberglass or carbon fiber hood that I would trust without multiple fasteners to keep it secure. That is why I now have a stock hood again. Aluminum is stiff and does not flex as much. It is also relatively light. I am going to butcher my aluminum hood to let some of the heat out as soon as I do some tests to find where the low pressure zones are.


https://www.rx7club.com/attachment.p...postid=1210881

https://www.rx7club.com/attachment.p...postid=1210866

https://www.rx7club.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=130056

fd3s93 01-16-04 10:53 PM

[QUOTE]Originally posted by 80-CU.IN.T
[B]I am going to butcher my aluminum hood to let some of the heat out as soon as I do some tests to find where the low pressure zones are.


plse do, so we can see what kind of effect it does to the hood.. also we can all learn from it.:) pictures would be nice..


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