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MR_Rick 06-23-11 09:52 PM

Cluster issues? My solution...Speedhut gauges retro fit.
 
I had the same issue with my gauges that some of you have, no speedo, tach or odometer. I did a lot of research on repairing it myself or getting it repaired by some one. I was afraid that I was going to pay some one $230+ for it to have a chance to fail again. While I was researching a fix, I came across Speedhut gauges. At first I was a bit hesitant about this because I didn't want it to look after market. I was shown a few option on how to mount them but it wasn't till I was referred to another forum that I'm not going to mention. He's also a member her (halfspec). He gave me the details on how to mount the gauges and make them look OEM. He is doing an LSX swap so he doesn't need a boost gauge. I don't want to have gauge pods in my interior since I want to have the cleanest looking interior I can achieve.

I contacted Speedhut with a lot of questions and they were very helpful in making my decision. The hardest part was choosing a finish I wanted. With Speedhut gauges, if you dream it, they can pretty much make it. All you have to do is make a rough design and they will match it to the best of their ability. They make OEM gauges for a few manufactures(Ford GT use these gauges) and kit car (Factory Five Racing being one of them). I did a few renderings of what I had on mind but I was afraid that I might get tired of looking at colorful gauges and might grow old on me. These are a few design I though about.

http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/5165/ideacluster.jpg

http://img545.imageshack.us/img545/7982/wtach.jpg

At the end I decided to keep it clean and simple and try to stick to the OEM look. So I went with the Black back ground and red lettering. When I placed my order and sent them the design I wanted, they were quick and sent me a proof the next day to see if it was to my liking.

http://img97.imageshack.us/img97/3906/picture2jtz.png

I place my order of five gauges, Tach, Speedo, Oil Pressure, Boost and Temp. For fuel I got a Auto Meter digital gauge that I will installed where the warning lights are on the right side.

Today I got my gauges and I was impressed with the quality. This picture do no justice to the finish of them.

http://img8.imageshack.us/img8/2156/img163c.jpg

Here are some detailed picture of each gauge and they associated parts.

Tach

http://img845.imageshack.us/img845/3921/tachtm.jpg

My speedo function by GPS. These are a bit more expensive but when I was reading how to set up I said NO. It was too much of a hassle so I opt for the GPS unit. Don't mind the purple dots, that's from the flash.

http://img703.imageshack.us/img703/1728/speedo.jpg

The other great thing about the gauges is that I could get my mileage programmed. I got tired of writing my mileage on paper every day.

http://img708.imageshack.us/img708/4416/mileage.jpg

Oil pressure. I had to order an adapter for the oil pressure sender to fit where the OEM one is at. I got it from Summit Racing.

http://img836.imageshack.us/img836/5281/oilpres.jpg

Temp gauge. It is going on the TB line. I got the T from Lowes "Motorsports"

http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/7415/tempth.jpg

Boost

http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/8476/booste.jpg

The gauges break down for ease of custom installation and they are very shallow too.

http://img839.imageshack.us/img839/3034/apart.jpg

They mount by a ring that screws in

http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/8798/mounting.jpg

MR_Rick 06-23-11 09:53 PM

They also sent me a "power distribution" wiring to connect the lighting control and power to one source for ease of installation.

http://img683.imageshack.us/img683/6493/disto.jpg

This is my fuel gauge. I have to take the bezel off to get a clean mount.

http://img31.imageshack.us/img31/2081/fuelc.jpg

This is my guinea pig cluster. I got this to be able to hack and in case I mess up I have another one to use.

http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/4555/clusterz.jpg

My Speedhut gauges cost me $800 but I think it is a worth investment considering that you can have the gauge to look any way you want them. I did consider doing the a Spirit R copy but I stuck to the OEM look.

Keep an eye on this thread. I will start tomorrow to retro fit them on the OEM cluster.

Gringo Grande 06-23-11 11:24 PM

Wow...this could be great. Will follow!

Adam Swim 06-23-11 11:37 PM

Wow that's awesome, can't wait to see em finished and lit!

Alex Rodriguez 06-23-11 11:45 PM

Speed hut makes good products. Theres a few threads on them with great success. Subscribed!

ProjectD 06-24-11 12:35 AM

Good luck with your conversion. It's a PITA but if you take your time it will turn out super nice. I just finnished mine up recently.
http://tapatalk.com/mu/a6cd0adb-dbcd-5633.jpg

http://tapatalk.com/mu/a6cd0adb-dc60-9439.jpg

http://tapatalk.com/mu/a6cd0adb-dc82-5004.jpg

MR_Rick 06-24-11 12:45 AM

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This is the finish look I want to achieve. I hope halfspec doesn't mind me using his pictures. They way he did his and explained to me, its simple. I might have a simpler way that I'm going to try out first though.

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ProjectD 06-24-11 01:01 AM

I'm looking forward to seeing what you come up with. Lane's gauges look simply amazing. A far cry from simple though.

Can't wait to see how they turn out

MR_Rick 06-24-11 01:05 AM

Lane has been very helpful on this and he has pretty much walking me through this retro fit and made it very simple for me to do. I will not get as detailed as he did with the wiring (at least not yet ;) ) but I'm using most of his ideas.


One thing I forgot to mention about Speedhut. If you want o change the look of the gauge faces, you can send your gauges to them and they will take car of that. I forgot to ask how much they ask for them to do this though.

Battle Cat 06-24-11 01:32 AM

Damnit this is awesome!

RotorMotor 06-24-11 01:50 AM

Normally I hate aftermarket cluster replacements, but I'm taken back. This is awesome!!!

Rob XX 7 06-24-11 08:02 AM

those gauges look first class, very nice.
I really like the GPS speedo, how large of a receiver do you have to install for it?

David Hayes 06-24-11 08:22 AM

Something Heath and I can agree on, those look sweet. Might be in my future if I can't fix my odometer issue.

RCCAZ 1 06-24-11 08:26 AM

Subscribed

MR_Rick 06-24-11 08:28 AM


Originally Posted by Rob XX 7 (Post 10678599)
those gauges look first class, very nice.
I really like the GPS speedo, how large of a receiver do you have to install for it?

For some reason my Speedo picture isn't working so I posted a new one. I will put the GPS antenna on the little "bridge" between the front window defroster running the wiring under the dash. The gauges are 4" for the Speedo and Tach then 2 1/16" for the rest of them.

http://img543.imageshack.us/img543/2180/speedoi.jpg

Rob XX 7 06-24-11 08:47 AM


Originally Posted by hondasr4kids (Post 10678627)
For some reason my Speedo picture isn't working so I posted a new one. I will put the GPS antenna on the little "bridge" between the front window defroster running the wiring under the dash. The gauges are 4" for the Speedo and Tach then 2 1/16" for the rest of them.


you should not need it out in the open like that, my suggestion is to leave it under the dash and confirm its working before putting it out in the open.
I install GPS speedos in boats all the time and its not required to be out in the open. A short delay is normal for them so dont take that as a issue with its mounting position

JWteknix 06-24-11 08:52 AM

I like this I'd be interested In changing my FC cluster to this tach and speedo

moosejaw 06-24-11 08:58 AM

Nice setup
Ive played with the Speedhut website before
Interesting

HalfSpec 06-24-11 09:32 AM

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Looking great Rick! The gauge color combo looks really good! I'm pretty jealous! I chose stock looking colors because at first I was only planning on doing my oil and coolant gauges. I'm wishing I had gone with yellow lettering and backlight though. I'm subscribing to your thread and eagarly looking forward to seeing your progress :)

Lane

PS
You are welcome to post any pictures from my build thread you want. Here's one of the cluster when I finished. The only difference being is that the programming buttons are installed in the stock glass face :)

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RXtacy 06-24-11 09:35 AM


Originally Posted by hondasr4kids (Post 10678401)

It looks like they make a fuel gauge as well correct? What made you decide to go with the autometer instead?

theorie 06-24-11 09:37 AM

I want to do this SO BAD.

twinsinside 06-24-11 09:43 AM

How hard is it to wire all these in?

HalfSpec 06-24-11 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by twinsinside (Post 10678686)
How hard is it to wire all these in?

It's not too bad. I believe ProjectD was able to still use most of his existing wiring because he didn't touch his rear PCB.

I took a more drastic approach and did this:

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I wired in a 24pin Delphi GT Lever Lock series connector in so that my cluster is a one plug affair. My instrument harness was completely rewired to accommodate this change.

My build thread has a lot of info on my wiring and the cluster mod, but its on another forum. I'll post it over here some day, but if anyone is interested in seeing it now, PM me and I'll send you the address :)

Lane

MR_Rick 06-24-11 10:16 AM


Originally Posted by RXtacy (Post 10678676)
It looks like they make a fuel gauge as well correct? What made you decide to go with the autometer instead?

I wanted to mount my boost gauge in the cluster because I didn't want to have have a boot gauge on a pod.

MR_Rick 06-24-11 10:20 AM


Originally Posted by twinsinside (Post 10678686)
How hard is it to wire all these in?

It isn't hard at all. My kit came with a distribution wiring kit for power and lighting. So you only need to tap into one power source and one lighting source then plug all your gauges to the "distribution block". Then you just put your new sensors (in my case boost. temp and oil pressure) in the engine and plug them to the gauge. For the tach just tap into the tach signal that comes from the ECU. Then follow the instructions and set your tach. The speedo only power and lighting is required because it gets it speed signal from GPS.


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