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pengarufoo Apr 14, 2005 06:54 PM

Looking for some e6x users
 
I've just finished rolling in e6x support in e6tuner, DigitalSynthesys has been kind enough to do some preliminary testing and so far so good. I am looking for some moer people to give it a try on their car/laptop combo and give me feedback.

Respond here or PM me directly if you are interested.

Claudio RX-7 Apr 14, 2005 07:23 PM

Ill give it a shot, tell me what to do. I saw some pics of your software and that post about your research and it looks interesting.

Just one question, what benefits do you see with your software over the windows software?

Let me know,

MrRx Apr 14, 2005 08:55 PM

Im game should have mine up and working by tomrrow.

jreynish Apr 14, 2005 09:49 PM

YES! I have been waiting for this! Let me know!
You can email me at
clockstick@shaw.ca

pengarufoo Apr 15, 2005 02:05 PM

Awesome guys, I'll have iso and floppy images up probably by tomorrow. DigitalSynthesys has uncovered some issues I am working on once those are taken care of I will make it available and notify you.

Claudio, the difference is primarily it does not run in windows. The software has the potential to be compiled and run on macs, handhelds, anything linux can run on which is quite a bit more than windows (just about anything). It also give the freedom to innovate, after the basic foundation is refined and stable I will work on adding things like auto tuning, support for more wideband controllers (native support on additional serial ports), USB video cameras for streaming video straight to USB thumbdrive with engine data overlayed in realtime so you can combine datalog-like information with your runs in a video ready to be posted on the web.

Another thing I am looking to add is GPS support so GPS coordinates can be in the datalogs with the engine data, can you imagine how nice it would be to view a datalog from a geographic perspective? Say you datalogged a drive around town and remembered the car was being a bitch at a particular intersection, load the datalog with GPS coordinates and switch to geographic view, you would have a track highlighting the path the car took, select the intersection, a window appears with scopes full of engine data sampled at that intersection. Helluvalot easier to work with than scrolling through pages counting how many times you floored it to try find the spot you're looking for.

Before I can start going crazy with the cool features I need to get the basics stable, which is what the beta testing is all about. As of now, there isnt much offered over the existing software other than interoperabilty with linux systems. However, after plenty of people have beat on it and the bugs have been sorted out, I can move forward.

jreynish Apr 15, 2005 04:23 PM

Since I have a "newer" computer and I need to connect via USB-Serial will this work with my computer, since it is indeed dos-linux based?
T

pengarufoo Apr 15, 2005 06:34 PM

It has support for usb2serial adapters, the one I have tested it quite a bit with is "Prolific" chipset based, works great.

It's not dos :) just linux heheh

jreynish Apr 15, 2005 07:08 PM

Alright, Perfect Let us know!
:D

jreynish Apr 15, 2005 07:15 PM

Alright then.. GOOD STUFF.

I am simply currious, after BETA Testing, is your plan to make the Product for Sale?
If so Depending on how the product operates (not that I have any doubts), I would be willing ot purchase final release.

pengarufoo Apr 18, 2005 10:55 PM

I would like to make a full version available for purchase when it is ready, I don't think I am very close to that point yet though.

I've just uploaded a new release, this one has the E6X support, and a few bugs fixed, get it here:
http://pengaru.com/downloads/e6tuner/beta/

You want the latest one only (pre15), get the .iso version if you wish to burn a CD, the .img version if you wish to use a 1.44MB floppy disk.

Please read the readme.txt file in that directory, if possible you may want to print it out so you have the keystroke reference handy when you try the software.

Good luck, and thanks for trying out my software, it's a great help when I get feedback, especially negative feedback that results in fixing things :)

YayeR Apr 19, 2005 07:44 PM

Alright I'll check it out. I just watched your video for the e6k beta, and after that I've decided to give this a try. Thanks for that and thanks for this :) I'll let you know what I think.


Tandon

pengarufoo Apr 19, 2005 08:39 PM


Originally Posted by YayeR
Alright I'll check it out. I just watched your video for the e6k beta, and after that I've decided to give this a try. Thanks for that and thanks for this :) I'll let you know what I think.


Tandon


Oh man, that video is so bad i didnt even announce its existence <grin> You're talking about the lengthy 160M movie I took in the middle of the night, right?

I need to make a new one with the car running and wideband connected.

jreynish Apr 19, 2005 09:17 PM

will this allow the use of data from my Wide band logging through the Haltech? I am in the middle of finals so haven't had a chance to try it but I was playing and I was currious I notice that you have support for the LM1 it seems, but will it work just as well with a wideband being used Via the haltech input?

pengarufoo Apr 19, 2005 10:00 PM


Originally Posted by jreynish
will this allow the use of data from my Wide band logging through the Haltech? I am in the middle of finals so haven't had a chance to try it but I was playing and I was currious I notice that you have support for the LM1 it seems, but will it work just as well with a wideband being used Via the haltech input?


If you have a wideband with a simulated output for connection to the Haltech or any other ECU expecting a common narrow band sensor, it will work fine. The software does have the A/F mv data stream just like the DOS software.

The native wideband support my software has is for the TechEdge 2A0, not the LM1 :) The native support uses a second serial port to talk directly to the wideband controller, this way the extra inputs available on the 2A0 are made available to the tuning software (3 extra analog inputs and 3 EGT inputs, along with a RPM input that has a higher samplerate than the Haltech RPM, better for a Tachometer that isnt laggy).

I may add native support for other wideband controllers that have a serial port for connection up to a computer, but for now only the 2A0 is supported. The problem is I need access to the wideband controllerse to add native support so I can test it, otherwise I need to go on documentation only and you guys testing it for me, which is possible but more time consuming / frustrating most of the time.

jreynish Apr 20, 2005 12:09 AM

I totally understand however with the E6X at least there is a Uego wide band input option in the input selection box, this is how I have mine wired up. will this still work... i am not using the narrow band mimic line on my WBO2, I am using 0-5V output.
Will this still work? I don't know if I am making myself clear or not... hard to explain without showing... know what I mean? ;)
Well thanks again on saturday I will have feedback for you! (positive or negative)

pengarufoo Apr 20, 2005 12:30 AM


Originally Posted by jreynish
I totally understand however with the E6X at least there is a Uego wide band input option in the input selection box, this is how I have mine wired up. will this still work... i am not using the narrow band mimic line on my WBO2, I am using 0-5V output.
Will this still work? I don't know if I am making myself clear or not... hard to explain without showing... know what I mean? ;)
Well thanks again on saturday I will have feedback for you! (positive or negative)

I see, well at the moment the E6X model code is not checking the O2 sensor setting so it is assuming 0-1V range. You will have a A/F mv gauge that says 0-1V from the haltech input in the current release. I will have to add some code that tweaks the ranges after checking to see what the O2 sensor is conifgured as, not a big deal. I think DigitalSynthesys is also doing the same thing on his setup.

However, you can look at the 0-1V as 0-5V, .5V == 2.5V, it's simply scaling the raw byte that comes in as the "af mv" data to whatever range I set, it's a linear function. Future releases will scale it to 0-5V when you have it set to that in your ECU, for now it scales 0-255 raw to 0-1V in the gauges due to the assumption.

jreynish Apr 20, 2005 12:34 AM

Alright I understand now, I will simply have to interpret the input as 0-5 V as it apprears with 0-1V. That is alright it still has to be better than haltech's datalogging software..
:D

Claudio RX-7 Apr 20, 2005 08:57 PM

I just wanted to clear something up, can i install your software on my WinXPSP2 laptop and just connect to the E6X? or do i have to run it from DOS? since i cater to all Haltech ECU's i currently use Microsoft VirtualPC to emulate DOS and run the old software from there, but it is kinda slower.

Let me know,

jreynish Apr 20, 2005 09:03 PM

pengarufoo,
I attempted to connect today with my laptop using a usb - serial adapter, and it would just keep bumping me back to the select e6k or e6x? does your software only support one type of usb serial adapter?
I run a belkin f5u109 adapter.
Thanks again.

pengarufoo Apr 20, 2005 09:17 PM


Originally Posted by jreynish
pengarufoo,
I attempted to connect today with my laptop using a usb - serial adapter, and it would just keep bumping me back to the select e6k or e6x? does your software only support one type of usb serial adapter?
I run a belkin f5u109 adapter.
Thanks again.


I have only personally tested a prolific based adapter, but the "mct_u232" driver is present in the kernel which supports the F5U109 from Belkin.

Did you select the first USB to serial adapter entry? (option #5) and are you disabling the techedge support?

After you try connecting and it fails returning you to the ECU model selection, hit ALT & F2, note any error messages you see and post em up here, there may be something useful.


Claudio, you don't install the software on your computer, you download a "image" which you write to CD or floppy then boot from. So if you have a CDROM you can boot with just get the .iso file and burn it to CD, then boot from it. It leaves your system alone and doesnt depend on the operating system you are running. If you can't go the CD route try the floppy, it loads slower but is otherwise identical. The current release does require a pentium or better PC based computer, I will make a powerbook version later down the road.

Good luck and thanks for trying it out guys :)

pre16 just got uploaded last night after BigAl... had some problems with a loose serial cable constantly losing connection demonstrating the weaknesses in the error recovery code. I fixed up the recovery code, and In the course of debugging his problem he sent me some photos of his vehicle, if you havent seen it already have a look:
http://pengaru.com/user_cars/BigAl.../

makes me want to get a old mini, no emissions tests to deal with.

Claudio RX-7 Apr 21, 2005 02:29 PM

Ok, i made a CDrom ISO using the pre16 version on your site, booted it up on my WinXPSP2 machine and just get a blank screen with the letter "L" and nothing else, dont see the CDrom turning or light blinking, or activity. What am i doing wrong?

There was no error code or other caracters but the L.

jreynish Apr 21, 2005 05:16 PM

you have to boot off of the CD you have to find out how to boot from cd-rom


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