Got the car started and running on the E11
 

Wow this thing is smooth. I recently rode in a 2nd gen rx7 with a E6k and its nice...but man this e11 is smooth!

Everything is fine until we get on boost. The car stumbles and the tach goes crazy when its in boost. We are thinking that thats either something we goofed on the map, bad connection to the secondary injectors or bad secondary injectors.

Anyway one we get that fixed, the o2 sensors hooked up and the windshield wipers going my car is going on a dyno!!

Oh and the software is so nice....to many options to choose from ;)

Did you import maps from the e6k?
If you did check the staging bar.
Barry

Yep Yep damm must be a HALTECH thing
even people Like Brain D. Cain who are real good setting up Haltecha report the same thing

My tach bounces around and my car stumbles too under boost! and I've heard numerous people state the SAME problem

Reports are coming in concerning a Pin-out problem with the E-11, Talk to BDC on the Team forum

Ok this haltech is awesome and all...but man they should seriously do something about the issues people are reporting.

So far I have heard of wiring diagram being wrong, relays being wrong (mine had this), sending out beta software (I also got this) and problems with the serial cable being wired wrong.

My serial number is 0052 if that helps.

Shane, e'mail me at bckennedy@carolina.rr.com

I need to hear about these issues you're having. None of my customers have mentioned having any problems yet, but I don't know how far along they are with their projects either.

Let me take a look at your map, and I'll help you figure out that injector staging issue.

BK

R1Dread:

Fule setup is as follow:
Injectors enable is selected
Staged Injection is enabled
Full Scale factor = 100
Injection Angle is set to "End of Injection"

Injector Trims is as follow:
injector 1 = 0%
injector 2 = 0%
Staged injection Parameters Group is as follow:
Common mode is selected
Staging bar is 12

BTW I am still learning this. And this map was imported from a e6k map. What is the staging bar? Is that the
BTW do you have dreadlocks...or is that just something odd in your name? Just asking cause I got dreadlocks ;)

beta huh? Thats proably the problem weve been having. Were did you get the upgrade? I have #50. There are some very inconsitant probems. Especially the trailing coil. The Aux outputs arent shutting off. Hopefully I can get the upgrade quickly and easily.
Sky

Hey man...PM me and I will setup a ftp with the latest version for you.

R1dread got his car running GOOD! Now it's time to hit the dyno. I'll let him chime in on his experience if he's not busy.

Shane,

Sorry I haven't gotten back to you sooner. . . .

I looked at the map file you sent me, and I can tell you that your problem is definitely in how you've got the secondary injectors staged. You'll need to experiment with where you have the secondarys come in and which mode you need to run them in, but I'll give you a couple hints:

First off, 100kpa is not necessarily where I'd set the staging point. You need to figure out where the engine's fuel requirement transitions from a range that the primaries are capable of covering to where the secondaries need to join in. I'd suggest you get your hands on an AFM and datalog the output to a series of acceleration test runs, starting with full power no boost, gradually working towards full power full boost in 15-20kpa increments. The idea is to monitor the A/F mixture while comparing to your primary injector's duty cycle. You want to figure out exactly WHERE the engine's fuel requirement becomes great enough to need the secondary injectors. This is because staging the secondarys too early makes it difficult to control fueling, and will yield either lean/rich mixture hesitation and possible engine damage.

By how you describe what's going on with the car and looking at the map you sent, I'd say you've got a lot of work to do! That map hardly resembles a map that's been optimised for anything. Rather, it appears to be a rough base/startup map that somebody's made some very minor changes to. Looking at how the secondary injectors were set up/scaled in this map makes me really wonder how well the car ran with this map on an E6K. Like I've said before, this really is an issue you should look to your dealer to help with, as tuning your car long distance is neither practical nor profitable.

But look at it another way. . . . you're one of very few in the US who have an E11 on a running car, regardless of it's state of tune. For that alone, you're a bit of a hero!!! Your install is no-doubt destined to have some issues and growing pains, but you're in a better place to have problems than some folks I hear from. At least there are people in your area you can PAY to bail you out. Other's aren't so fortunate.

Let me know how things work out.

BK

BMEP Fuel & Tuning

Sjordan i would not mess with the fuel and timming maps yet . the first thing i would do is check the timming . I finally got my timing right it was out by 50 degrees and no one could help me. Unless they has one installed in their car Ari,Dale nobody has them installed yet.
I drove my car pinging all over the place for about 60 miles it was starting and running. Now i am happy my shit is working perfect , i have an FD so i can't help you that much FC is different because you can put the crank trigger in many positions.
some people will say go back to where you bought it but the truth is they can't help you at lease thats what happened to me call an i will help you as much as i can FOR FREE .
yes i have Dreads
93 r1
03 r1
Barry

Barry,

The trigger setup for your car with an E11 is no different than with an E6K. I promise you, Ari and Dell have dealt with MANY cars like yours in the past, and I find it highly unlikely that either one of them were unable to help you with your setup. If they were unwilling or disinterested, that's another thing. I seriously doubt you know what you're talking about when you claim that they COULDN'T help you, as your car is a pretty common application for Haltech products.

Furthermore, Shane's description of his problem occurrs when the engine is coming under load, transitioning from non-boosted to boosted operation with the staged injectors. If his question were regarding how to set up his triggers or zero his timing, I think he'd have asked. This does not appear to be the case, however.

BK

BMEP Fuel & Tuning

Bk, I was there when Barry called Ari and Haltech USA for support. They couldn't help him with his timing problem because they haven't installed one yet on an FD. Haltech USA told Barry to call Haltech Australia, which he did and solved his timing issue. Barry is suggesting to Sjordan to check his timing because his E11 was not holding timing which caused it to run awful. Haltech Australia has a NEW FIRMWARE upgrade for the E11 which solved his timing issue, his timing is rock solid and he is a happy camper. Haltech USA should have a copy of that update as of now.

We corrected the timing on the car and it seems a little better. Also the map was way off and we found this out a few days later....apparently the e6k import did not work correctly.

Anyway I am taking my car this coming week to Don Marvel of www.marvelspeed.com for tuning.

Can someone please email me a copy of the firmware upgrade? I am very curious about this...considering Rotary Performance has no information what so ever on the E11's...they told me to either call haltech USA or Haltech is AU.

I guess I stand corrected. Why Ari would tell YOU to call Haltech instead of finding out the answer himself is rather puzzling.

Maybe he's not as great a dealer as I thought, huh?

BK
BMEP Fuel & Tuning

Can you guys post the firmware number?
(I'm not asking for the firmware code.) :)

We also had major problems trying to get the timing to stick, but I got so mad at it.&nbsp The owner eventually sent the unit back to RP.


-Ted

Trust me if your timimg is all over the place it's the Firmware i had the same problem mine was out 50 degrees,i uploaded the rotary firmware and BANG the timing was perfect. My tooth offset and angle was diferrent from the E6k.
He should of kept the e11 that was silly THIS SHIT WORKS GREAT i am very happly now its very easy and it has a ton of features plus it's has windows that actually works i can't say it enough this thing is BADASS.
Barry

Oh here it is Kernal s1v11bo4 if anybody needs the firmware let me know $1000 each hahahahahah just kidding its FREEEEEEEEEEEEE
Barry.
DA shit working B

My experience with ARI and the Haltech USA group is if it is simple and obvious they will have an answer and will be willing to help. if it is very technical and hard to determine they will not be able to help you. I spent hours checking things and checking back with these guys and geting nowhere with a problem I had. After a five minute call with the tech guys in Australia I was up and running. I wouldn't call them at the first sign of problems but I would not waste my time if the local people did not have an immediate answer. Ari and crew are trying but they don't have the intimate knowledge the guys in Australia do.