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jonnydanger 02-13-10 08:48 PM

Super Now Engine Mounts? 46mm or 36mm?
 
So I have been looking around and starting my parts hording for the up-coming build. I noticed that Super Now makes their engine mounts in two different sizes;

-Stock Height (46mm)
-10mm Down (36mm)

What is the purpouse of lowering engine 10mm? Other than lowering the center of gravity, which is nice, but it would also bringing the oil pan that much closer to the ground. Anyone have some insight on this?

juicyjosh 02-13-10 11:38 PM

jonnydanger,

The change in height of the engine depends on how worn are your stock mounts. It's possible that new mounts would actually raise your engine.

The height should be fine as long as the mounts don't raise the engine. I bought some solid poly mounts in a GB on this forum a few years back that tried to shake my car to pieces, and the mounts actually raised the engine enough such that my Cusco strut bar was putting scrape marks on my upper y-pipe.

So an actual valid concern would be the increase in NVH when going more or less "solid." Stiffer mounts will help increase throttle response, decrease rear end wheel hop, and help keep your PPF from cracking. You could also try an engine torque brace to achieve similar results.

Currently I have the Pineapple sump and Banzai mounts, and my car's pretty much slammed, and I still don't have any scrub makes on my pan.

jonnydanger 02-14-10 10:33 AM

So would you recommend a poly mount like the Banzai ones over solid ones? This car will be a track car but also a DD.

fritts 02-14-10 11:14 AM

The lowered ones I believe are for people running oil pan braces.

juicyjosh 02-14-10 05:52 PM

The Banzai ones are poly, but they do flex - barely. If I grab the UIM and shake the car, I can just barely see the engine rocking, so there is a very small amount of flex. There is an increase in noise and vibration, but it's not as much as you'd think. The Banzai are adjustable too, which is a nice bonus. I'm happy with the Banzai ones. I've broken two PPF's while using the stock mounts, although my engine was pushing a lot more torque than a stock FD. There's also the torque brace option. I recommend either option if you plan on increasing the power. The Banzai ones would be perfect for the track. Hope this helps.

Josh

jonnydanger 02-14-10 07:55 PM


Originally Posted by fritts (Post 9803985)
The lowered ones I believe are for people running oil pan braces.

This, makes no sence.


Originally Posted by juicyjosh (Post 9804561)
The Banzai ones are poly, but they do flex - barely. If I grab the UIM and shake the car, I can just barely see the engine rocking, so there is a very small amount of flex. There is an increase in noise and vibration, but it's not as much as you'd think. The Banzai are adjustable too, which is a nice bonus. I'm happy with the Banzai ones. I've broken two PPF's while using the stock mounts, although my engine was pushing a lot more torque than a stock FD. There's also the torque brace option. I recommend either option if you plan on increasing the power. The Banzai ones would be perfect for the track. Hope this helps.

Josh

This helps alot, Thanks

The Shaolin 02-14-10 08:51 PM

Why wouldn't that make sense? The brace would raise the engine 10mm, the shorter mounts would keep everything at the same height.

jonnydanger 02-15-10 08:45 PM


Originally Posted by The Shaolin (Post 9804865)
Why wouldn't that make sense? The brace would raise the engine 10mm, the shorter mounts would keep everything at the same height.

Alright, Im a newb. Please explain to me how, in any way, a oil pan brace would change the height of the engine.

rotary#10 02-15-10 11:48 PM

oil pan brace? huh how would that work? anyone with 411 on this ?

Banzai-Racing 02-16-10 07:23 AM

Our Oil Pan Braces and others are 3/16" thick, this equals just under 5mm.

The FD oil pan brace mounts between the engine and mounting brackets, this raises the engine by 3/16". However in most cases it does not effect anything. http://banzai-racing.com/store/FD_oil_pan_brace.html

We also make them for the FC, FB, and Cosmo 13B-re & 20B engines, where motor mount bracket location does not cause the engine to be raised at all.

http://banzai-racing.com/store/media...3s_opb_kit.jpg

We took this into consideration when designing our motor mounts, which can be used with or without an OP brace http://banzai-racing.com/store/FD_po...or_mounts.html

jonnydanger 02-16-10 07:58 PM

Ahhhhh I should have specified that mine is a FC.


Originally Posted by Banzai-Racing (Post 9807801)
Our Oil Pan Braces and others are 3/16" thick, this equals just under 5mm.

The FD oil pan brace mounts between the engine and mounting brackets, this raises the engine by 3/16". However in most cases it does not effect anything. http://banzai-racing.com/store/FD_oil_pan_brace.html

We also make them for the FC, FB, and Cosmo 13B-re & 20B engines, where motor mount bracket location does not cause the engine to be raised at all.

http://banzai-racing.com/store/media...3s_opb_kit.jpg

We took this into consideration when designing our motor mounts, which can be used with or without an OP brace http://banzai-racing.com/store/FD_po...or_mounts.html

Just ordered a couple of your goodies, cant wait to get them!

discodorito 07-05-15 04:32 PM

Anyone here have experience with the super now motor mounts themselves? Looking to pick up a set

jgtcspec7 07-07-15 11:34 AM

I have a set of the lowered supernow mounts on my fc. I had more vibrations with semi-solid mounts than these. If you go solid be sure to get a set of the solid diff mounts. You don't want one part of the drivetrain moving while one is not. Shift, throttle response is drastically improved. Highly recommended.

jonahau 03-29-19 12:18 PM

reviving these thread to see if any more members have experience particularly with the lowered -10mm super now engine mounts for the fd which I'm looking to get mostly for clearance with the strut bar. No issues installing it in the oem steel brackets? and no other issues when lowering the engine 10mm??


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