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Monsterbox 04-04-14 03:43 PM

Pass Emissions on E85 temporarily?
 
Possibly about to move to an emissions state. Car currently is no where near legal. No airpump, no cats, no egr etc :lol:

Has anyone in an emissions state successfully passed simply by running e85 and/or a mix to bring down hydrocarbons?

Figured I could simply adjust duty cycles 33% for idle and part throttle, fill up with e85 or straight e98 (have access to lab grade) just enough to pass emissions then refill with 93 / retune?

Of course I'd also throw on my stock main cat for visual inspection

RotaryEvolution 04-04-14 06:53 PM

i use E85 to supplement cars that have too many issues for the owners to be able to address and are on time contraints with the DMV.

it should be extremely easy to pass emissions with a cat, maybe even possible without but the CO levels might be difficult to maintain. if it wasn't for the fact they still check for a cat and smog pump i might have tried it without a cat on my own car.

Monsterbox 04-05-14 08:04 AM


Originally Posted by RotaryEvolution (Post 11712507)
i use E85 to supplement cars that have too many issues for the owners to be able to address and are on time contraints with the DMV.

it should be extremely easy to pass emissions with a cat, maybe even possible without but the CO levels might be difficult to maintain. if it wasn't for the fact they still check for a cat and smog pump i might have tried it without a cat on my own car.

Excellent news!

But Can't believe they actually look for an airpump as well. :/

Samito Built 10-21-14 06:24 PM

I'm thinking about to install a electric corvette air pump and stock emission tube with OEM cat. To see if I can trying to pass emissions. Do you you guys really thinks its possible.

Specs of my car
13b Street port
SINGLE turbo
E85 fuel
currently full exhaust
complete emission delete.

FD7KiD 08-23-16 10:30 AM

any updates on this??

ItalynStylion 09-09-16 02:52 PM

I'm actually quite interested in this too. E85 is for the most part alcohol that burns down into CO2 and water vapor. Seems like that would really help with passing emissions.

j9fd3s 09-12-16 10:30 PM

i looked a few years ago, as in california this would be a nice thing. i didn't really find any results at the time though, however we do know SOME things, and can make an educated guess.

1. OEM's sell flexi fuel cars, these pass smog.

2. one of the things a rotary has a hard time with is unburned hydrocarbons. in really broad strokes, an engine burns hydrogen and oxygen. gasoline is a hydro-carbon. it is a bunch of hydrogens on a carbon, CH18 if i'm not mistaken (18 hydrogens on 1 carbon, plus a bunch of other crap)). ethanol, being an alcohol has the hydrogen, but with fewer carbons. it is something like CH12 (12 hydrogens on a carbon).

since there are fewer carbons, unburned hydrocarbons should be fewer too.

this is also, incidentally why it takes more volume of E85 to have the same energy as gasoline, 12 hydrogens is 30% less than 18 hydrogens.


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