FC Power Steering Setup
Alright, so there used to be a thread some where in this place dedicated to Power Steering setups. For some reason it's MIA. There was never anything substantial in it anyways, so here is a dedicated thread to go over everyones power steering setups.
JTP - Post your setup for us newbz. I'm wanting to switch up to a properly set up Power Steering setup. What pumps are you guys using? some say MR2 electric pump, while others say GSL-SE. I'm looking for something reliable. Also something that will work, and not suck balls like every single power steering FC i've driven. post away |
My power steering pump from my 2000 camaro z28 is pretty awesome. Really light and doesn't tire me out after 15 minutes of drifting. Had to add a real ps cooler though. :)
Only needs 2 of the 3 lines, just capped my other one off. I just cut the metal lines, put the nut over it, flared the end, and screwed it on. |
I'm curious about this too. My car is a manual rack I want to remove for a ps rack.
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My car atm is just a de powered rack. I have an Mr2 pump that will be up and running in a month or so though. The Mr2 writeup is still on here but it wasn't too informative
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Can some one post the psi for our racks and the psi the pumps you're using are at?
I'm running a manual rack and am getting tired of it. |
Is a manual rack really impossible to drift with? I'm debating whether or not to go PS in my LS swapped RX-7.
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Originally Posted by Track_FC
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Is a manual rack really impossible to drift with? I'm debating whether or not to go PS in my LS swapped RX-7.
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this is the stock bracket i cut and modified sits extremely low have yet to try it but i dont see why it wont work
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Originally Posted by Track_FC
(Post 11004361)
Is a manual rack really impossible to drift with? I'm debating whether or not to go PS in my LS swapped RX-7.
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Good point stevensimon. That's a time when you want the steering to be predictable. I suppose with a manual rack with an ideal ratio it wouldn't be so bad. Which is the best manual rack to use?
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Electric powersteering FTW! Do want...
Problem is power steering is either RPM or wheel speed adjusted. Not a desireable quality for a drift car IMO. Riz. |
The manual rack is decent but bumpsteer will make you crash. I've had the wheel rip out of my hand from it.
That being said, I've been drifting manual rack for the last 4 years. |
my FC had power steering when i bought it... I just left it in there, added a power steering cooler and run synthetic fluid. I like it :shrug:
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Am I an asshole for thinking that OE FC power steering works fine? I'm not competing or anything, but it's consistent, and I've driven literally 8 hours straight at events before with no breaks except to change tires and it hasn't overheated.
Maybe the problems start when you get huge angle? What's wrong with FC power steering? |
Originally Posted by ilia
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Am I an asshole for thinking that OE FC power steering works fine? I'm not competing or anything, but it's consistent, and I've driven literally 8 hours straight at events before with no breaks except to change tires and it hasn't overheated.
Maybe the problems start when you get huge angle? What's wrong with FC power steering? I also have a Vmount in which i can not utilize the stock pump/mounting location due to interference with my charge piping Every single power steering FC i've ever driven never countered, and randomly did that gay ass S-Chassis random 540spin out into yonderville technique during transitions. so i'm asking because if i do this, i have to spend money, and i do not want to spend money to have my car 4 wheel slide and feel like dick. it's not bad as is, but i do want something easier finally. |
Fuck that it builds muscle son.
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I went the MR2 (spider) pump. highly recommend it.
I have a link of it working on youtube (look up mantrx7) also a link here for more details. I don't drift, but if you running large fronts its very worth while. http://www.ausrotary.com/viewtopic.p...341&hilit=ehps |
I have a factory manual rack and i like the way it feels.
But i want to get modified knuckles and i was told from a reliable source to swap in a power rack but de-power it for better angle and less bump steer |
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bump_steer
^That is the correct definition of bumpsteer. Some of you are confused. |
MR2 Ps units are pretty hard to find these days...not impossible but people want an arm and a leg for them. I've been looking at S2000 ps pumps as well
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yeah im curious about what set up is good. My steering feels like crap. Doesnt like to countersteer and i maaxed out the caster to try and help but nothing..i have a S4 powersteering pump and rack :[ no bueno. Did you ever figure out which ps setup worked good buckey?
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Originally Posted by mannykiller
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MR2 Ps units are pretty hard to find these days...not impossible but people want an arm and a leg for them. I've been looking at S2000 ps pumps as well
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Yup, S2K or NSX would be nice... I belive the older NSX units are non-CANBUS.
Riz. |
interesting
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For like 2-3K you can get adjustable electric power steering racks for custom racing applications.
Riz. |
Mitsubishi eclipse v-belt pulley style pump and a simple bracket to mount it where the AC compressor goes. Simple and over boosted. I can steer the car back from full lock while drifting if I choose to. I need to add a better than the factory cooler though as I just have the stupid "pipe" like a factory FC. It feels sketchy at first because it's so powerful but you get use to it in a couple days of driving around. The pump comes on lots of 80's and 90's mitsubishi cars and trucks. i got one from teh junkyard for $20 and made a steel braided an hose for the pressure side to the rack from the pump. Everything else is completely stock. I would suggest using the power steering switch if you don't want to raise the idle with the throttle while sitting stationary. The engine will shut off sometimes due to the load of the little pump. The ratio of the pulleys is nearly 1 to 1 which means the pump is spinning far faster than it was probably intended to. No problems yet with anything except heatsoak. A proper cooler will fix that. I've drifted at 4 or 5 events with this setup and never had a issue except on 100+ degree weather days and lots of back to back runs.
I thought the rack may explode but no problems yet. I used a S4 rack I had laying around. The rack with 3 fittings instead of two. The one with the tiny hole inside at the bottom of where the fitting goes is not needed. Block it with a bolt and teflon tape or whatever you want to do. So that it just has a feed and return. Makes the plumbing simple. |
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