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Toruki 02-06-19 08:18 AM


Add the ability to "drag and drop" photos into the text editor. This would reduce the amount of time and steps it takes to import a photo into a post. Originator: Toruki
Minor clarification, sorry late to the responses here: I personally am more interested in copy/paste for photo insertion rather than drag/drop (although that too would be welcome as an alternative to the uploader). With copy/paste you can tactically grab a cropped section of a photo (screenshot) as you view your album side by side with the composition window. It's so much easier than finding a file like "\\storage\Pictures\Nexus6P\Camera\IMG_20151108_23 1208\Burst_stack_97899705998401_4.jpg" and dragging it in.

A good example is the GMail composition window. It also compresses inline images into PNG format, related to KansasCityREPU's point earlier regarding storage optimization.

Thanks Gen2n3!

Gen2n3 02-06-19 11:06 AM

Toruki,

Thanks for the clarification. Unless I am "blind", the drag & drop feature in gmail retains the image format. That would be a topic for another discussion. However, I understand your point. As such, the proposal is modified to read:

"Overhaul the method of image insertion to the composition window (text editor). Add the ability to "drag and drop" and/or "copy and paste" photos into the composition window. For example, the gmail composition window functions in this manner. This would reduce the amount of time and steps it takes to import a photo into a post. Originator: Toruki"

Is this acceptable or what would you recommend?

Toruki 02-06-19 12:05 PM

That's perfect, thank you.

Gen2n3 02-06-19 12:40 PM

Forum Members,

We have an updated list of proposals currently open to be nominated for forum improvements. Thank you, Toruki for the update to Proposal 4! Other than the originator who proposed each item, does anyone wish to second the following proposals?

1. Create a sub-forum titled "Turbocharge a NA motor" in the "Tech and Performance" section. This would be useful to FB/SA22, FC, and Old School Rotary members who wish to add turbos to a naturally aspirated rotary. Originator: WondrousBread

2. Add a "First Unread Message" button/link in the header, similar to the "Go to Last Post" button. This would enable members to quickly view the first unread post of a thread without the need to open the thread first. Maybe the button could have an icon that shows "1st" and an envelope? The button design may not be important; it's illustrating an option that would be different than the ">" button. Originator: Toruki

3. Add a PDF Export function and/or improve the "Show Printable Version" capability of a thread to include photos, instead of displaying a link to them. It gives members the ability and options to print a thread (or relevant segments of it) and/or export it as a PDF for reference. This ability does have merit, especially in how-to or build threads. Originator: Toruki

4. Overhaul the method of image insertion to the composition window (text editor). Add the ability to "drag and drop" and/or "copy and paste" photos into the composition window. For example, the gmail composition window functions in this manner. This would reduce the amount of time and steps it takes to import a photo into a post. Originator: Toruki

5. Create an image repository by generation for entire vehicles and its various sub-assemblies. This would enable the forum to become an authority and a place where members (or outsiders) could trust the imagery and associated data. In addition, images would be readily available and members could see the original thread(s) where it was used. Originator would be available as an advisor. Originator: KansasCity REPU

6. Improve the composition window by replacing the current method with Bootstrap. This would condense coding on multiple platforms (phone, tablet, desktop, etc...) into one streamlined module. This also has the potential to streamline image copy/paste functions, as proposed by Toruki (refer to Proposal 4). Originator would be available as an advisor. Originator: KansasCity REPU

As a reminder of parliamentary procedure, these proposals require support from our members. It takes one member to say, "I second proposal x". Afterwards, it is put up for a vote by the membership. For example, I would say, "All in favor of proposal x then vote +1 (for yea) or -1 (for nay). These steps help prioritize the importance of changes to our forum. Otherwise, these proposals would die on the vine without YOUR support.

Thank you again for all the comments and suggestions. Shall we keep them coming? Don't forget to show support on these 6 proposals with a "second" nomination!

Molotovman 02-06-19 02:19 PM


Originally Posted by Gen2n3 (Post 12328528)
Molotovman,

Thanks for the suggestions.

Could you tell me more about the "My Recent Threads" feature? Do you remember when it was removed or perhaps why it was removed? What benefit would members gain by bringing this feature back?

This feature was previously found under the "Quick links" drop down on the ribbon. It was a link that took you to the list of threads you ad most recently replied to and they were arrange by latest activity.

I transitioned to just using the "Today's Posts" feature which is acceptable to me now but the "My recent Threads" was nice because you could see if someone commented on a post after you quickly so you could jump back into the discussion.


Originally Posted by Gen2n3 (Post 12328528)
Regarding both ideas for the classifieds, the new marketplace would eliminate the use of the WTB section. Instead, the use of WTB tags will be used. Second, if there are post count restrictions for the new marketplace then there would be no separate area for members under 10 posts to buy, sell, or trade. One would have to reach the minimum post count in order to participate in the new marketplace.

I'm talking about keeping the new marketplace as is with no WTB section and keeping post restrictions for the section. My suggestion is creating a sub-forum in the "new member" section for new members to post WTB's with no post restrictions, it would be strictly for WTB requests only. Many people stop in looking for parts and don't engage in discussion in other parts of the forum, it would facilitate sales for established members who wanted to scour the section.


Originally Posted by Gen2n3 (Post 12328528)
Do you have any other suggestions?

No other suggestions at this time.

TomU 02-06-19 04:32 PM

Include pictures in the printable version

Add a stupid post filter (wait, is this a stupid post :scratch:)

KYPREO 02-06-19 09:50 PM

Tapatalk is a terrible app and has security vulnerabilities, which is why I've never implemented it on my forum. I don't use GarageTalk either. I prefer navigating to rx7club.com with my browser, which works well, as the theme is mobile responsive.

Does VBulletin support push notifications to mobile device without a secondary app? There is now an extension to do this for phpBB (but only works for Android due to restrictive iOS API). I imagine VBulletin would offer something similar. Push notifications are a great way to make you aware of PMs, someone quoting your post etc.

Gen2n3 02-07-19 10:38 AM


Originally Posted by TomU (Post 12328749)
Include pictures in the printable version

TomU,

Are you nominating Proposal 3 with a "second"?

Gen2n3 02-07-19 11:09 AM


Originally Posted by Molotovman (Post 12328734)
This feature was previously found under the "Quick links" drop down on the ribbon. It was a link that took you to the list of threads you ad most recently replied to and they were arrange by latest activity.

I transitioned to just using the "Today's Posts" feature which is acceptable to me now but the "My recent Threads" was nice because you could see if someone commented on a post after you quickly so you could jump back into the discussion.


I'm talking about keeping the new marketplace as is with no WTB section and keeping post restrictions for the section. My suggestion is creating a sub-forum in the "new member" section for new members to post WTB's with no post restrictions, it would be strictly for WTB requests only. Many people stop in looking for parts and don't engage in discussion in other parts of the forum, it would facilitate sales for established members who wanted to scour the section.


No other suggestions at this time.

Molotovman,

Thank you for the additional information on the "My Recent Threads" function. It seems that the "Subscribed Threads" function in the "Quick Links" ribbon does the same function as you described. That function displays all of the threads a member subscribed to and sorts them by last activity date. Could I be mistaken?

Again, thanks for explaining the WTB section for new members. If our classified section remained as-is then your suggestion would be entertained. However, the new marketplace will be a new module, similar to the Rennlist mode (referenced here: Post ). This new marketplace has no allowance for a separate section to reside in the new user sub-forums.

Gen2n3 02-07-19 11:54 AM


Originally Posted by KYPREO (Post 12328806)
Tapatalk is a terrible app and has security vulnerabilities, which is why I've never implemented it on my forum. I don't use GarageTalk either. I prefer navigating to rx7club.com with my browser, which works well, as the theme is mobile responsive.

Does VBulletin support push notifications to mobile device without a secondary app? There is now an extension to do this for phpBB (but only works for Android due to restrictive iOS API). I imagine VBulletin would offer something similar. Push notifications are a great way to make you aware of PMs, someone quoting your post etc.

Kypreo,

Currently, we are not addressing any issues with external apps such as GarageTalk or Tapatalk. Our focus is centered on improving the browser-based format and content of the RX-7Club. To answer your question about push notifications, I only know of push deliveries via GarageTalk. You should also receive an email when subscribed to a given thread. The email push notifications would depend upon your email preferences set on your mobile device(s).

Does that answer your questions?

Molotovman 02-07-19 01:21 PM


Originally Posted by Gen2n3 (Post 12328911)
Molotovman,

Thank you for the additional information on the "My Recent Threads" function. It seems that the "Subscribed Threads" function in the "Quick Links" ribbon does the same function as you described. That function displays all of the threads a member subscribed to and sorts them by last activity date. Could I be mistaken?
.

It is not the same function, for "My Recent Threads" you did not have to subscribe to any threads. It was just a list of the most recent threads you commented on arranged by newest to oldest activity.

Gen2n3 02-07-19 07:52 PM

Molotovman,

Posting a comment on a thread (or starting one) automatically subscribes you to that thread. As such, the "Subscribed Threads" link should fit the need you describe. For example, when I used this function, it listed 112 threads that I'm subscribed to, and sorted from newest thread to oldest thread. Many of these threads ended with another member's comment as its last post.

Forgive my ignorance here...did the "My Recent Threads" link show all threads you commented on, whether or not you still subscribed to those threads?

EUROX 02-07-19 10:39 PM

Can someone explain removing post restrictions? Are we talking about the restriction of new members from posting threads until they have a certain number of posts?

My only concern would be where random bots would be spamming the hell out of threads with responses to go to a site to earn $xxxx money by working at home or other crap. Pretty soon reading through threads would be combing through nonsense. Is that even something to worry about in this context?

Molotovman 02-08-19 07:37 AM


Originally Posted by Gen2n3 (Post 12329015)
Molotovman,

Posting a comment on a thread (or starting one) automatically subscribes you to that thread. As such, the "Subscribed Threads" link should fit the need you describe..

You must have your forum settings set up to subscribe you to all threads you comment on which I don't think is a default setting. If I hit "Subscribed Threads" it takes me to the page where I have no subscribed threads.


Originally Posted by Gen2n3 (Post 12329015)
Forgive my ignorance here...did the "My Recent Threads" link show all threads you commented on, whether or not you still subscribed to those threads?

Correct! The list was limited to posts that you had commented on in the last week or two though.
It was a very convenient feature.

Gen2n3 02-08-19 01:10 PM


Originally Posted by EUROX (Post 12329048)
Can someone explain removing post restrictions? Are we talking about the restriction of new members from posting threads until they have a certain number of posts?

My only concern would be where random bots would be spamming the hell out of threads with responses to go to a site to earn $xxxx money by working at home or other crap. Pretty soon reading through threads would be combing through nonsense. Is that even something to worry about in this context?

Eurox,

Thanks for asking the question about removing post restrictions. Simply put, the New Member section would mostly be reduced to an archive (read-only area) and all members, regardless of post count, would have full access to the forum. I understand your concern regarding bot attacks. Those incidents appear to be very small. If a member suspects a post to be spam, malicious, etc... then use the "Report Post" button (see photo below).

https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rx7...fac60235a0.jpg
If you see something then say something!

I've seen new members attempt to quickly plus up their post counts with nonsense posts and thread jacking. In fact, I reported on 2 posts within the past 2hrs. Additionally, Internet Brands staff indicate the incidents of scammers and bot attacks against their other club forums are very low. And those forums do not impose the same restrictions as we do on RX-7Club.

Did I answer your question?

Gen2n3 02-08-19 01:28 PM


Originally Posted by Molotovman (Post 12329068)
You must have your forum settings set up to subscribe you to all threads you comment on which I don't think is a default setting. If I hit "Subscribed Threads" it takes me to the page where I have no subscribed threads.

Correct! The list was limited to posts that you had commented on in the last week or two though.
It was a very convenient feature.

Molotovman,

First, I'd like to thank you for keeping me on my toes! Second, I believe the function you describe was moved from Quick Links into a pull-down menu next to your username. It will list all of your posts in threads, whether subscribed or not. See below.

https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rx7...e05d0593f5.jpg
My Recent Posts relocated to the Username pull-down menu.

Does that answer your question?

Gen2n3 02-08-19 01:32 PM

Forum Members,

It's been 1 week since we started this thread. We have great ideas proposed thus far. Perhaps many more will follow? Please review these proposals currently open to be nominated for forum improvements. Other than the originator who proposed each item, does anyone wish to second the following proposals?

1. Create a sub-forum titled "Turbocharge a NA motor" in the "Tech and Performance" section. This would be useful to FB/SA22, FC, and Old School Rotary members who wish to add turbos to a naturally aspirated rotary. Originator: WondrousBread

2. Add a "First Unread Message" button/link in the header, similar to the "Go to Last Post" button. This would enable members to quickly view the first unread post of a thread without the need to open the thread first. Maybe the button could have an icon that shows "1st" and an envelope? The button design may not be important; it's illustrating an option that would be different than the ">" button. Originator: Toruki

3. Add a PDF Export function and/or improve the "Show Printable Version" capability of a thread to include photos, instead of displaying a link to them. It gives members the ability and options to print a thread (or relevant segments of it) and/or export it as a PDF for reference. This ability does have merit, especially in how-to or build threads. Originator: Toruki

4. Overhaul the method of image insertion to the composition window (text editor). Add the ability to "drag and drop" and/or "copy and paste" photos into the composition window. For example, the gmail composition window functions in this manner. This would reduce the amount of time and steps it takes to import a photo into a post. Originator: Toruki

5. Create an image repository by generation for entire vehicles and its various sub-assemblies. This would enable the forum to become an authority and a place where members (or outsiders) could trust the imagery and associated data. In addition, images would be readily available and members could see the original thread(s) where it was used. Originator would be available as an advisor. Originator: KansasCity REPU

6. Improve the composition window by replacing the current method with Bootstrap. This would condense coding on multiple platforms (phone, tablet, desktop, etc...) into one streamlined module. This also has the potential to streamline image copy/paste functions, as proposed by Toruki (refer to Proposal 4). Originator would be available as an advisor. Originator: KansasCity REPU

As a reminder of parliamentary procedure, these proposals require support from RX-7Club members. It takes one member to say, "I second proposal x". Afterwards, it is put up for a vote by the membership. For example, I would say, "All in favor of proposal x then vote +1 (for yea) or -1 (for nay). These steps help prioritize the importance of changes to our forum. Otherwise, these proposals would die on the vine without YOUR support.

Thank you again for all the comments and suggestions. Shall we keep them coming? Don't forget to show support on these 6 proposals with a "second" nomination!

Molotovman 02-08-19 02:09 PM


Originally Posted by Gen2n3 (Post 12329131)
Molotovman,

Does that answer your question?

D'oh! I never knew it moved.
Thanks!

Gen2n3 02-08-19 02:21 PM

Molotovman,

It's all good! I too learned something about the forum today.

toddk042 02-08-19 04:36 PM

Ok, I second number 4 and 5.

Clarification on 6, are we talking about replacing the Post Editor with something that supports Bootstrap? Or, re-skinning the website using bootstrap?

I would have reservations with a full html post editor (which is what bootstrap would need). These should be posts, not content zones.

cloud9 02-08-19 05:52 PM

Augment the thread Rating feature such that along with the thread general or overall rating, threads are Rated across a few key categories (with categories visible in thread list view). This would give new-comers (everyone really) a means of exploring for forum's "best" content (while avoiding the worst) without the need of the user to be looking for something specific.

Category sample suggestion and rating examples:
• Overall [ 2.9 - 5 ]
•• Educational/Instructional [ 3.6 - 5 ]
•• Entertaining [4.8 - 5 ]
•• Media [ 2.3 - 5 ]
•• Civil [ 1 - 5 ]

A user could sort threads in a section (or Forum Search results) by highest (or lowest) score in a specific category in order to browse threads based on a criteria that means something to them, without the need of requiring the user to have a specific topic of interest.
There are obvious pitfalls, but this is the internet.

Gen2n3 02-08-19 08:10 PM

toddk042,

I am not an expert on Bootstrap so I would defer any expertise to the originator. I would argue that a re-skin may not be a bad idea if it affords us the ability to import images and input text with greater ease. Not to mention, if the members vote to see its implementation then it would be hard to argue against updating the composition window.

Thank you for nominating Proposals 4 and 5.

***Break, Break***

All members in favor of Proposals 4 and 5: Please vote +1 or -1 on each. A +1 means that you vote "yea" and a -1 means that you vote "nay". Voting may now include the originator of each proposal.

Since I am overseeing this thread, I abstain from the voting process unless there is a tie or dispute regarding a particular proposal's nomination.

Let the votes begin for:
Proposal 4:

Proposal 5:

Gen2n3 02-08-19 08:31 PM


Originally Posted by cloud9 (Post 12329181)
Augment the thread Rating feature such that along with the thread general or overall rating, threads are Rated across a few key categories (with categories visible in thread list view). This would give new-comers (everyone really) a means of exploring for forum's "best" content (while avoiding the worst) without the need of the user to be looking for something specific.

Category sample suggestion and rating examples:
• Overall [ 2.9 - 5 ]
•• Educational/Instructional [ 3.6 - 5 ]
•• Entertaining [4.8 - 5 ]
•• Media [ 2.3 - 5 ]
•• Civil [ 1 - 5 ]

A user could sort threads in a section (or Forum Search results) by highest (or lowest) score in a specific category in order to browse threads based on a criteria that means something to them, without the need of requiring the user to have a specific topic of interest.
There are obvious pitfalls, but this is the internet.

cloud9,

You have an interesting suggestion. How do you propose a thread earns a rating? My concern is that thread ratings are subjective. Additionally, not all threads are rated. Another concern is rated threads may turn into a popularity contest and may be easily perverted into something that has artificial value or inflated value.

My personal opinion - not just as a mod or thread overseer - thread ratings are under utilized and deliver very little value. If one finds value in a thread then subscribe to it because there are multiple ways to find "Subscribed Threads". Refer to that discussion between Molotovman and me for more. Again, that is just my personal opinion. Could I be wrong? Maybe yes...maybe no.

Again, you have an interesting concept. Do you have other ideas, maybe some way to streamline the forum?

toddk042 02-09-19 10:46 AM

Proposal 4: +

Proposal 5: +

Gen2n3 02-09-19 11:08 AM


Originally Posted by toddk042 (Post 12329253)
Proposal 4: +

Proposal 5: +

Proposal 4: +1

Proposal 5: +1

Thank you, toddk042 for nominating these 2 proposals and casting your vote.


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