I agree with you completely. Unfortunately you dont have to be smart to be a politician....just rich. I find that these government types are very reactive to problems, which is a stupid way of doing anything. I swear this country is run by frigin monkeys...

 

I have to agree with Ace IIB. I think a big problem is the fact that proper places to race are too few and far between. Hell, the closest one to me is an hour away. Sure, its fine to make the trip if its a bunch of guys that wanna test their cars, but if its just yourself, its kinda boring. The government needs to pull their heads out of their asses and realize what needs to be done to help resolve the problem instead of giving out unrealistic tickets.

Also, I don't think they truely realize how badly this could hurt our economy. There is a lot of business that revolves around people wanting to modify their cars. If they take the laws too far, then they could instill enough fear in people to not modify their car and that whole sector of the economy would be badly hurt.

 

Reminds me of this ....

For a better effect, replace the singer with Evilrotor ... "Get ridin' or die trying"

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Thanks Derek. I need a few more caps on my teeth...or maybe, you need a cap in y0 assss!!!

 

Im rollin with Saget!!! Bob that is.

http://www.thatvideosite.com/view/2637.html

 

WOOOOOOOOOT That's a beauty eh! Cool Vid.
I'm Rollin with WankelingBeer who's rollin with Saget!!!

Just don't let our Dumb *** politician's see that one. Who knows what
dead-end law they will want to pass then.

Ace IIB

2 points to eViLRotor for starting a thread that hits a nerve in a RotorHead

 

Glad I could be of service. But, the thread has certainly gone off on a few tangents. My primary beef was the BS street racing crackdown that does nothing to prevent street racing.

 

My sentiments exactly!! Ineffective laws that open the doors for Harrasment !

Ace IIB

 

Although the laws do very little to prevent street racing directly, I know of quite a few people (not naming names here) who have become afraid of breaking laws for fear of being attacked by the law. The charges that have been laid have nothing to do with the act of street racing, but if they label it as such, the public who demanded action to be taken is satisfied and those of us who don't take the time to educate ourselves with the facts, live in fear of having our cars taken away and crushed. This has been and still is an advertising campaign fed to us by the government in order to bring people to fear the reprocutions (sp.?) of street racing. Don't you think it worked?

 

don't beat around the bush, just say my name
I'm so scared of breaking the speed limit laws.... I only drive the speed limit. I have to confess though, today I parked in the baskin robbins parkinglot when I shouldn't have

 

I have to wear adult undergarments when I drive because I pee a little bit every time I see a police car.

 

I hear that, except when I was driving my VW I had no choice - THE THING ONLY DID THE SPEED LIMIT HAHA

The thing abou this whole ordeal that made me literally bust out laughing was that whole car crushing deal...I don't care where they go with this law, but crushing those cars was entirely sensationalism.

Do they expect me to believe if Dr. Gino with his $80,000 BMW M3 is caught street racing that they're going to CRUSH the car as opposed to selling at a police auction? Or scratch the beamer - if they seize ANY car they'll be selling it at auction - aside from the two Honduh's used in their sensationalist campaign that is.

 

LOL!!!

 

yeah
I was driving a vw that would only do 105, got a ticket for going 146... so it all depends on your luck!

 

I was driving my mom to a doctor's appointment and a cop pulled me over and asked if I was street racing. I looked at him, then looked at my mom, and then looked at him again and said: "Are drugs mandatory where you work?"

He literally scratched his head, and shrugged saying: "I guess that means no, Ok, bye." and walked back to his car.

Oh, good old City cops. I'd be ashamed to be the father of a cop like that...

 

It's not that people are affraid to break the laws (speeding/racing etc) it's that they are affraid to drive their cars at all.
Technically every mod you do to your car seems to be illegal. (I don't know what the exact definition of illegal is but...) I have seen tickets given out for intake, exhaust, ride height, tint, emmissions, etc etc etc. You may say we accept the risk by knowingly modding our cars this way, and to a point, yes we do. But the problem is when a cop can arbitrarily pull you over and accuse you of something based on the car you drive or what you've done to it.

Basically profiling. And if you take it to court, who is the judge going to believe? You or the cop.

I don't street race. I don't condone street racing. Hell I don't even drive my car on the track. I just cruise. And now, because of the car I drive, I am gonna be lumped in with all the rest of the ******** who think they are Mario Andretti.

I can't go to Darknights in my car because I know there will be 100 cops there waiting for me to leave to ticket me for anything they can find. (and of course after giving out 100 tickets they will report back on what a success their "campaign" was...That's like RIDE pulling over 100 cars and giving 100 tickets for plate violations/no ownership/illegal mods and saying their campaign to stop drunk driving is working, even though no tickets for DUI/DWI were given out)

Which makes me think that if they ever did cave in and build a track in the GTA, no one would go because the cops would be waiting for them to leave and ticket them...

In actuallity, my car is way safer at speed then most cars "caught" street racing. (Or at least it will be once I get the suspension fixed...) I have way better breaking distances and evasive manuvering abilities. I am way more safe than 90% of the drivers out there today. I have been driving for 14 years, and have never been in an accident (exept when a certain someone driving a red FD violated my rear bumper on the Ottawa cruise...) and all 14 of those years were spent driving in Toronto/Scarborough. Hell I lived next to Pacific Mall for F@&#s sake! All this, wiped away because I drive a car Vin drove in Fast and the Furious...

So to answer your question, do I think it worked?
If by worked you mean rule with an iron fist, shoot now ask questions later, then sure. It worked. And it's only going to get worse.

Maybe what I'll do is sell the FD and buy an Accent, and keep it stock, but race around like a crazy person. I bet I get less tickets than someone parked at Tim Hortens on a Friday night...

I think I will reserve my voting rights until someone comes along who understands laws are made to be broken. No matter how many laws you pass, you will have people living outside of them. So really what has the law accomplished. Those who planned on breaking the law were gonna do it anyways, and will continue to do it. Those who weren't going to, are now crushed under the weight of oppression and affraid to walk out their front door for fear of the police (who with the power they have, can do and say what they want without recourse. I should start carrying around a tape recorder and video camera and always record what I am doing, and how fast I am going just to be sure...) So why pass the laws at all? To satisfy the public outcry?

Ok, so lets see. This week alone, we are up to 12 shootings (10 or 12 i cant recall). Maybe they should make guns illigal or something...I dunno. Or at least make it illigal to shoot someone. That should stop the shootings. Because we all know that the kind of person who would shoot someone is the kind of person who gives a flying f*&@ about the law...

I guess the other option would be to make it illigal to speed! Yes, if we impose some form of speed limits, people wont be going fast enough to hurt someone...Oh they already have speed limits? I guess the general public didn't get the memo. Not that it matters really, because even going the speed limit, you can kill someone. In fact, it's the people who pull out onto a street without looking and get t-boned by someone minding his business going the speed limit (say 60km/h) who are a bigger threat than speeders. (In fact, one could argue that if a "street racer" in a faster car pulled out in front of someone, he/she would have a better chance of avoiding the accident simply by accelerating faster. Or if the accident could not be avoided, at least the closure speed would be lower...)

The gov't doesn't realize that the main perpetrators whom they are targetting are tomorrows voters. Youth voting is already down, and I can't see this helping at all. You think Im voting for Harper now?

Bottom line point - STREET RACING IS NOT THE PROBLEM. Its the drivers who do dumb s@&$ at all speeds and circumstances. It again comes down to profiling and feeling safe. I bet (but cant of course confirm) that when a mom is driving her kids to school and sees a riced out civic a few cars up, she gets that "feeling" in her stomach and tries to distance herself from the car, out of fear that some spontaneous street racing might soon ensue...Same as when that same woman sees a couple young African American youths walking towards her, she gets that scared feeling. It comes from ignorance, and the general public is similarly ignorant about people who drive modded cars. (most of which are slower than a lot of cars you can buy stock these days anyways). Yes there are people who like to race, but there are also people who like to just hang out with like minded people. (Perhaps you would say loitering is illegal as well, but thats an argument for another day)

If it wasn't for the media attention, none of this would be happening. (this is going to sound cold, but don't mistake my point for not caring. It was tragic what happened, and any loss of life is terrible but for the sake of argument...) If the cabbie who was killed wasn't about to bring his family over from (wherever) to start a new life, it wouldn't have made the news. If the parents of the little girl who were killed didn't actually have children, it wouldn't have made the news. (or at least not the front page). It's a similar situation when comparing two hypothetical people shot over the weekend. If one is a homeless man, and the other a powerful well known face in the community, which one is making the news and sparking an outcry? People care about things for the wrong reasons. Usually when it hits close to home and they think, "damn...this could happen to me".

Thats it, I'm done. (Note I didn't really plan this out, so don't mind the rambling. Flame away if you want, but know that tone cannot be conveyed through keystrokes, so you may misunderstand some of the things I said. And I will be forced to correct you!)

 

Good points. Next time don't street-race a crazy Mexican in the Gatineau Hills and you won't lose any paint...

 

You had alot of time this morning, huh?

The only place I know you run a risk getting pulled over is in Dudebridge! Stay away as far as you can from there. Unless of course you want to get pulled over. Then you'll probably get a ticket and have the emissions people show up so they can test your car.

I refused to bring the car out on opening night of F&F3. I knew there would be cops all over the place. Turns out I was wrong. Everybody's car was out that night and not a single cop was around.
The following night was different! Made the huge mistake of driving through Dudebridge around 10:30pm. I saw at least 9 different cars pulled over from Weston all the way out to Martin Grove. Getting lectured, getting tickets, and getting emissions tested.
Some of these cars were the same ones that were out the previous night. It didn't matter if the car came from the factory stock with alot of power. You were going to get pulled over if you looked like a sports car or if your ride height was lower than they expected.

I was sweating bullets, but thankfully everyone had their hands full with all the cars they've pulled over. I got the hell out of there as quite and as fast as I could, legally of course!

I don't dare drive through Dudebridge now. Especially now that kids are out of school. You'll be seeing alot more punk *** kids in Daddy's or Mommy's car trying to street race!

It's unfortunate the few have to ruin it for all of us!

 

Finally someone who agrees that Dudebridge is rediculously stupid...
A mockery of the Canadian Import Scene, dude, eh, dude... *adds more gel to his hair and pops his lambo door'd civic DX*

*music starts - laserbeam effects chime in*

 

That's essentially what it is. I thought those lambo door conversions were suppose to be pricey or somehting.... now you drive by the local Dudebridge spot and you can see a row of lambo door Civic's all over the place!

LOL!! I love the way they pronounce "dude"!! Or it's "Dude, buddy!" ROFL!!

 

I think I'm guilty of giving police more credit than a lot of other people. When I was just out of high school, driving my lowered Civic with 16s and low pros, I got pulled over 12 times in a year without getting a ticket. Wanna know what the secret is? Talk to the officer with respect and only answer the questions asked. My personal opinon (and it seems many people disagree) is that police will give a ticket if they feel it is deserved. The ticket may not be directly for a specific offence that you have in fact comitted, but if the officer wants to give you a ticket because you might be a little cocky, he will find one to give. This isn't 'ruling with an iron fist'.
Opening up an entirely new can of worms... we live in a society and a quite good one at that. I notice that a lot of people aren't willing to uphold this society if it inconveniences them. If you get pulled over, appreciate that the officer is actually doing his job instead of reprimanding him for bothering you. Be friends with the police and appreciate them. I guarantee you won't be stuck with BS tickets if you talk with them in an amicable fashion.

 

Well, I do understand why they do it, and it makes sense to some degree. But sometimes it is rediculous. I personally have never been "harrassed" by a cop for my car, but I've been in other cars when they've been pulled over and sometimes the cops can be quite the jerk.

Sometimes it gets to the point where, if the cop can't find anything to nail you for he'll point out stupid little insignificant things such as no front plate, or winter tires in the summer.

Not everyone can afford to change their tires, or whatnot every single time the season changes. Cops gotta understand that. It's hard enough to pay for Canada's crappy insurance rates for most people. I'm sure they have more important things to worry about than tires.

Anyhoo, Sizzlenut made a good point: there are some people who just give the cops a hard time cause they think they are gangsta-Vin-Diesels with their crazy one arm driving and shizz. fo' sho' dude buddy dude dude bud...

And also, I noticed a lot of cops give out tickets for exhaust and stuff, but realistically they don't care, (hence why some don't show up for court) they just do it to get their quota, cause "ricers" are an easy target for them. But I'm sure at least 60% of cops just don't care, cause they probably got their own "hot rods" or "rice rockets" at home in their garage.

 

Isn't that illegal

Bottom line is this:

There are laws in place that we all know of, or at the least SHOULD know of if you're going to even think about entering a grey area around them. If you break them and get nabbed - th cop isn't "pointing out stuid little insignificant things" he's upholding the law. Thats his/her job. If they didn't nab a few people here and there for having monster fart cans and no cats (or no front license plates) what would be the next thing people would consider to be "insignificant"?

You see where Im gong with this? Sure, in all reality having no front plate or blocking your EGR or whatever ARE very minor things, but if they weren't at least minimally enforced, it woudn't take long before the "insigificant" violations are wrinkle wall tires and wheelie bars. By nipping a few people for a few little things (that are IN FACT AGAINST THE LAW) you keep people from going too far. They know people are breakin the stupid little laws all the time, but catchinga few folks here and there on it is just a method of suppression which in all fairness is a decent plan.

 

I'm referring to the cops pulling you for no reason, when they are just driving normally. I've seen numerous occaisions where the cop has told them that it's just a "routine check." I don't see how a loud exhaust can be so life-threatening that they need to make a law to ban it. I've never heard of someone dying from too much rice. haha.

Anyway, and yeah, the plate thing is indeed illegal in a majority of Ontario, BUT I mean who wants to put a front plate on after a fresh paintjob? :S

 

Do you put your clothes on after taking a clean shower?

Loud exhaust could be life threatening.

What if some azz was driving with a loud exhaust wailing by a car that's been driven by someone with a heart condition. That might cause them to have a heart attack. We don't expect F1 noise levels on the streets.