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jinxed4dub 05-04-10 12:04 AM

throw up some pics, to do the thumb nails you go to the reply button or go advaced on the quick reply and go to manage attachments. I don't know how to post the big pics really

j9fd3s 05-04-10 12:51 AM

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Originally Posted by DemonSpawn67 (Post 9973505)
Its a stock S5 Radiator, the old one for my 12A was mangled in the accident, and the GSL-SE I have is missing that entire shroud used to mount it. So I was just going to mount the S5 radiator in, but I just realized that with the engine in I can't maneuver it to get the lower radiator hose opening between the tube and sway bar... so if I cut it i need to route the heater line somehow and I am not sure I have enough room to angle mount it. :(

hmm, the JDM guys do FC radiators all the time. ive never done it though...

BlackWorksInc 05-04-10 10:33 AM

That looks close to what I was playing around with earlier, but it looked like clearance was going to be an issue, I will double check it when I have some free time on my hands. Will do what I can about getting the pictures as soon as possible, right now I am just checking the forums before headin' to my first job.

j9fd3s 05-04-10 03:12 PM

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lmao, here's the thread i made when i got that car http://www.nopistons.com/forums/topi...6-my-new-ride/

missing pics are an RE amemyia twin td05 turbo manifold. someone ended up offering me a lot of money for the manifold, so it got sold

found em....

BlackWorksInc 05-04-10 04:30 PM

So here's the first problem, the radiator itself is causing me a bit of a headache...

As you can see there is no metal shroud that normally mounts the stock radiator, this was gone when I got the shell.

http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/e...7/DSC00585.jpg

Now Here's the problem I have, the sway bar gets in the way of letting me mount the radiator low enough to clear the hood. To be specific, the passenger side hose fitting is what is getting in the way. If I cut it down I need to make a new nipple for the heater line. :scratch:

http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/e...7/DSC00586.jpg

Here's a rough look at how it would look with it slant mounted, the only problem with this set up is that once again, the lower radiator hose fitting is practically against the cross member and I am worried about it rubbing/breaking the hose.

http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/e...7/DSC00587.jpg

So yeah... need to get this squared away before I an make any progress on the finishing her up. :(

bshusted 05-05-10 06:19 AM

Looks like you need to tip the rad more toward the front of the car. If you compare your pics to the one in #202, your filler neck is much higher than the one in the pic. if you lay it down more, you should have more clearance for your lower hose.

EvilWankel 05-05-10 07:55 AM

Perhaps a s4 radiator would be better for you - there is no filler neck on the radiator, just a cap in the center.

Jimbo II 05-05-10 05:04 PM

Run the lower radiator hose under the crossmember?

BlackWorksInc 05-05-10 05:25 PM


Originally Posted by Jimbo II (Post 9977621)
Run the lower radiator hose under the crossmember?

That's the problem, Originally I was going to mount it like that, but I didn't realize that once the engine was in I couldn't angle it enough to get it past the sway bar.

I'm not worried about the filler neck, that's going to go. I have a block-off plate for it and I will just use the S4 filler from the thermostat housing instead, the biggest issue is that I can't get it enough for that lower rad hose fitting not to get in the way of something. :(

blown7 05-05-10 09:44 PM

I run a S4 rad in my car. had it in my GSL then swapped it over to the GSL-SE

http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f3...20GSL-SE/8.jpg

http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f3...wtrucks015.jpg

http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f3...207/NEW007.jpg

http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f3...207/NEW009.jpg


http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f3...207/NEW089.jpg

http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f3...207/NEW087.jpg

http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f3...207/NEW010.jpg

http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f3...207/NEW008.jpg

BlackWorksInc 05-05-10 11:11 PM

Do you ever have any issues with that lower hose rubbing on the crossmember? Its so close I'm afraid of damaging my hoses...

blown7 05-05-10 11:20 PM

i have solid mounts in my GSL-SE now, all i do is wrap it with a piece of old hose and zap strap it. I check on it once a month. I only drive the car friday nights to the drag strip, make 4-5 passes then drive home. My future fix is a aluminum pipe with rad hose on either end.

j9fd3s 05-06-10 10:57 AM


Originally Posted by DemonSpawn67 (Post 9978393)
Do you ever have any issues with that lower hose rubbing on the crossmember? Its so close I'm afraid of damaging my hoses...


Originally Posted by blown7 (Post 9978416)
My future fix is a aluminum pipe with rad hose on either end.

thats an idea. the rx8 has something like this in the upper hose, its just a steel part with a bracket so it bolts to something.

but the hose can't rub the crossmember if its bolted to it

BlackWorksInc 05-10-10 12:05 AM

Hmm... Maybe I will make an aluminum or steel pipe with a bracket that the hose can route through? I will go ahead and play with the idea tomorrow during welding, while I make some brackets for the radiator.

Jimbo II 05-10-10 12:25 AM

It looks like a bit of messing round. Have you considered tracking down some mounting panels for the radiator and running a 3 core 1st gen radiator? May be more costly though than if you want to try and make this fit. Just out of interest I'm running a hk monaro (old aussie muscle car) four core radiator, and it mounts to the factory panels...

http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/k...r/DSC01021.jpg

BlackWorksInc 11-09-10 01:07 AM

I finally got fed up trying to get that second gen radiator to work and install the oil cooler. Came across a '83 12A in the junk yard and took the radiator, mounts, and oil cooler (and a stock two spoke steering wheel I'm not sure what to do with) Ended up installing it in the car today and came across an issue, my Taurus e-fan is to thick, I can't get it between the water pump pulley and the radiator. I know the GSL-SE radiator mounts are a hair thinner, but I don't have them or a junk car to get them from. So you guys have any ideas? I don't think I could even run the stock clutch fan either.

On my phone right now and its a pain to post pictures, so give me a couple dates to get my laptop fixed, hard drive died on me.

But you guys have any suggestions to how to thin the fan down or get a thinner e-fan that's a good or near as good as the Taurus fan? Thanks in advance, starting to look like I'll hear the engine roar around December.

BlackWorksInc 11-09-10 01:11 AM

By the way, why is this in the non-technical section?

Directfreak 11-09-10 01:28 AM

Good Question. Fixed.

RotoricanNY 11-09-10 08:00 AM

glad to see her being saved.

BlackWorksInc 11-09-10 10:19 AM

Thanks Direct, just seemed odd to me.
Thanks mate, I can't wait to be behind the wheel of my car again.

Ken7102 11-10-10 09:05 PM

cant wait to see those pics

BlackWorksInc 11-15-10 01:19 AM

Sorry, was distracted most of the weekend so I didn't get them pics uploaded till just now.

But here's an idea of the problem I am having, my Taurus E-Fan won't clear the water pump pulley, and I don't think I can cut it down any further. So any ideas here mates?

http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/e...1-14112950.jpg http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/e...1-14113101.jpg http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/e...1-14113043.jpg

JoeNoble 11-15-10 01:23 AM

mount it in front of the rad and push the air through?

j9fd3s 11-15-10 10:03 AM


Originally Posted by BlackWorksInc (Post 10320069)
Sorry, was distracted most of the weekend so I didn't get them pics uploaded till just now.

But here's an idea of the problem I am having, my Taurus E-Fan won't clear the water pump pulley, and I don't think I can cut it down any further. So any ideas here mates?

i have a dumb idea. i'm wondering if the engine is too far forward?

i didn't look to see how you put the engine in the car, but since it was a gsl-se, isn't there a chance that it has BOTH the gsl-se subframe and a engine mount bracket that is bent to fit a 13b?

either that or the 81-82 radiator setup is that much thicker (its 3 row vs 2)

BlackWorksInc 11-15-10 10:33 AM


Originally Posted by j9fd3s (Post 10320365)
i have a dumb idea. i'm wondering if the engine is too far forward?

i didn't look to see how you put the engine in the car, but since it was a gsl-se, isn't there a chance that it has BOTH the gsl-se subframe and a engine mount bracket that is bent to fit a 13b?

either that or the 81-82 radiator setup is that much thicker (its 3 row vs 2)

The crossmember and mount are for a 12a, I slotted the holes and let the engine sit as far back as it would go before tightening the engine and transmission mounts. The radiator came out of a '83, but whether model year or production year I didn't think to check when I was at the junkyard.

I want to save making the fan setup a push through as a last resort.


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