FD - Save it or junk it? Vote now!
 

I got my FD new in '95... I was 7 years old ;) j/k --- I'm old as hell :( So, now I'm thinking... Save it or junk it? Tell me what you think and I'll email you a pizza roll. Here's the skinny:

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I've gone through a few engines and bla bla bla ... SOS ... and for some reason I can't junk it! Back in 2004 or 2005 I got hit in the quarter panel... hit and run, btw ... hope he burns in hell...

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After that I cried like a baby and just drove it around for a few years like that. Mexicans stopped me once or twice a month offering to "fix it". Well, the entire thing, actually, 'cause before I got hit-and-run in the quarter panel I got hit in the door as well... as you can see here:

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Now, this is AFTER I gave a Mexican guy $200 who SWORE he could fix it good-as-new. Well, he took most of the money and did the crappy job you see there. Next thing you know he didn't answer his phone and his "I speak no English" old-lady said he was in Arizona running from ICE or something. Awesome. Lesson learned. Stop being such a cheap SOB ... got it

After that, in 2007 or 2008, I started thinking of getting carbon fiber doors and modify the fender and bring it out and stick 12" wheels on the back. Ya know, stupid dreams that never amount to anything when you're broke. I heard carbon door rattle and don't fit right and are a nightmare and they were expensive anywayzzzz so I just forgot about it.

Time went buy and once the engine finally blew in... sheeze, I guess it was 2008? It was before Obama got elected, so yeah... summer 2008... I just covered it up and let it sit there for years in my condo complex. It was towed twice for expired registration so I got smart and put the front plates of my SUV on the back of my FD and just stuck a new sticker on it and it never got towed again. Cause, ya know, I'm cheap! Truth is, I bought a motorcycle and I've got an Infiniti SUV and another convertible sports car so I just ignored it... for... years!

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Time passed, grey hairs started in, my business started to take-off and I moved into a nice house... I stuck a cheap-ass tow-bar on the FD, bolted it down and towed it to my new place.

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Now it sits in the front on my house. My girlfriend doesn't care what I do with it. To her it's worthless. She says it's "kind of cute" but really she doesn't care if I fix it up or not. She does, however, think it's not worth my time to do so. She's right... it's true... but I actually kind of enjoy doing it! But, seriously ... do I have the time anymore?

So, I found a guy in Vegas! Great guy, too! A shop on the West side off Tropicana ... the only decent rotary guy in this town... his place is called "Rotary Evolution" and I went in there the other day with my girl. She did NOT dig it... no Prada, no Dior, no Cattier - NO INTEREST! Ya see, about 5 years ago I found some guy on this site and bought a short-ish block from him. My original FD engine I took out to get fixed and it got stolen so I had to buy this one. He's from OK and sold me this newly rebuilt (by rx7.com) engine. It's got 3mm apexes and street ported with the rx7.com or "rotary performance" or whatever the hell they call themselves, and the "RP" fuel-rails. I think it's got 850 primaries and 1600 secondaries? I dunno. It's sitting loosely in my car, under the hood, for 5 years now! NOT kidding!

Back in 2004 or 2005 I (stupidly) stuck a front mount on it... Greddy... whatever. I was young and dumb and didn't understand the issues. Wish I'd have gone with the Petit FMIC but whatever. Now, it did make a lot more room in my engine bay but sheeze...

Anyway, I got a new efini turbo and I'm thinking of sticking it on the engine. I know, I know, the FM IC will screw up the lag and all that... but I can't go with that "big turbo" crap 'cause I HATE HATE HATE zero torque! HATE it! That's what I get for driving a Hayabusa around for all these years... Anyway, here's what I'm thinking:

Yeah, I've had a Power FC forever with a datologit ... whatever ... and I'm thinking of sticking in the 3mm, ceramic sealed, RP engine and fitting it with the sync-turbo and setting up the Power FC correctly all with my brand-new wiring harness (expensive... this damn car is such a money pit and I'm struggling to understand the psychology as to why I don't just junk it) and ADD NITRO! A dry shot! Maybe 75 HP shot :D ... the injector rail with the stock turbo and 13 pounds of boost should easy handle it!

And before you tell me I'll never get it DEQ'd ... he's the AWESOME news! The state of Nevada will let me license this thing as a "hot rod" and require NOT DEQ! I can't drive it more than 2500 miles a year ... which I'd never do! Sheeze! I've had it since 1995 and it's got less than 70,000 miles on it! So, yeah, no air-pump, simplified octopus, straight-pipes with no cats and I'm in the 400 HP club! And that's 400HP much more flat across the curve from what I'm reading :) ... wow, I LOVE that! These big-turbo dynos I look at which read "700 HP at 6800 RPM!" but at 4000 rpm are around 120 HP and 100 TQ? Eff that!

Right?

Or am I just and idiot... should I just junk this thing? What's wrong with my brain? Why am I in love with this car? Ya know, I've got a 300zx convertible, '96... it's an auto and I'm in love with it too! And it's gutless! I purchased a 150 nitrous shot (wet) for it... but I think maybe I'm insane. What's my malfunction? Why do I love these Japanese cars from the 90's? Oh, and get this! I'd love to get a 2002 NSX! Wait, David, do you mean the new Corvette? Maybe a Cayman or some exotic, used Ferrari? NO! I mean a Japanese sports car from the glory years!

Seriously, what's wrong with me? And why did I hate the RX-8 when it came out and why do I hate it today? And why am I excited about the return of the RX-7 in 2016 with the 16X engine - especially if it goes turbo! Why don't I fall in love with the M3? Now that I've got money, why don't I get a sweet, new Vanquish?

Why do I feel like all those cars are over-priced crap? Why does the only car that's new which excites me have to be a GTR? Am I in love with Japan? I lived there for a while back in 2001 and really didn't like it at all. I'm pretty sure it's not Nippon I'm diggin' ... but my fantasy car to own is the Datsun 2000GT! Well, that and the '64 Ferrari 250 or a Veyron... but since I can't afford a car worth 2 million dollars or more...

Anyway, so there it is. Save it or junk it? And if I save it, from the looks of it, should that quarter panel get cut off and replaced or would YOU flare it out and not bother buying a quarter panel at all?

All opinions welcomed from "junk it, idiot!" to "nitrous? are you stupid?" to "this car needs to be fixed and worshiped! it's the savior or cars! long live the FD!" Whatever you have to say, for some reason, I'm interested.

Oh... and I do kinda like that Tesla... stick a 3 speed Ti Tranny on one of those puppies and I'd probably buy it.

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Rotary Evolution is on this site and from all the reviews, a no bullshit and excellent builder. I say that now you have the money, either go wide fenders on the rear and chop what you can or just fix it. I wouldn't junk it just because I have a thing for silver rx7. Btw, a Greddy fmic isn't bad at all!

First you must forbid your girlfriend to ever say "it's kind of cute"...cuz thats worthy of brake up material right there...

Second...no one writes such a long post for a car they dont care about. If you junk it you will end up having nightmares and be haunted

Third...just on this forum alone I've seen FDs in much worse shape that were brought back to their full potential

Nitrous? *Face palm*

My suggestion is to keep it and and slowly work on it, dont go all out crazy and shit...a stock FD is a fun car...and they are getting more rare. If you can afford to keep it why junk it? Just my 2c

Agreed on everything! However, stock FD does kind of look like a miata from the front so I can see why it's cute :)

Easy choice for me I live to rebuild RX's . Do what's in your heart , Rebuild the car that you cant part with, Have the body repaired and painted ,give it a new [heart] engine and go and drive the wheels off it :smiley309

Haha very true, though the R1 lip and some agressive wheels on the stock body can lower the cuteness level quite a bit :D

5 min of my life I will never get back.

It's a piece of shit, email Fritz, he'll give you a few grand for it, maybe. Then you can spend more time writing over indulgent shitty literature. Seems to be what you're more interested in.

I'd reshell it personally. That's one of the worst panels on the car to damage.

First id tryto figure out why your motors keep blowing I know they arent exactly the most reliable motors In the world but so many so soon reallly seems like something is off

Also that body panel looks pretty bad but im no bodywork expert

It really depends on why you like the car and what you want it for. These are great cars and can do some crazy things when pushed to the limit or they can be really expensive cruisers yiu gotta weigh the pros and cons and see where you stand is it worth it to fix the car I say yes but thats judt me.

"brake up" ... that made me laugh. what other misspelled words give away a guy as a motor-head in such an obvious way, i wonder?

Oh ... crap-stick! I totally forgot to mention that I got some awesome wheels over eBay a few years back and once it's fixed up I intend to stick 'em on there. They're Fikse (hope I spelled that right) 18"ers that look crazy awesome. Forged and beautiful. Let's see if I can dig up a photo here...



...just more money sunk into unrequited love ;)

Oh, wow, so you can link a site, link a photo WITHOUT the photo showing up or manually upload images so they make sense with the text. How pathetic. Yeah, I've been on this site ten years or so but seriously - this is sad. And when you edit the options are even more limited. Sigh. Okay, here goes the manual upload to picasa download to my pc and upload to rx7club as an attachment then re-select attachments and say "insert all" ... just pathetic!Attachment 529238

Attachment 529239So, here are the photos of these sweet, sweet wheels i got back in 2009 and need to put on some rubber and stick 'em on my FD

Sell me the Fikse and sell the shell to be parted. problem solved...

hey! i paid 3 grand for the short block under the hood and it's never been installed! soooo.... there's that :D

make me an offer ... i was told by fiske at their 800 number they sell this sob's for $839.30 USD a wheel now, if memory serves. i'm kinda surprised they still make this model/style but hey - what's not to love? what amazes me is that when they were 1st introduced they sold for like $450 or so... maybe the price of aluminium went up? who knows... i know batteries have sure gone sky high

man, i sound like my grandpa back when i was a kid.... sheeze...

correction ... $1253.80 per wheel ... but that's new... i'd probably be lucky to get a couple thousand to be honest...

Interesting build thread... I would just pick up another shell if you really wanna get back into the game.

^it's not a build thread, yet. He needs to make up his mind first...which I guess is what this current thread is for; to help him decide.

Is the car a 94 or 95? That is important in the decision making process.

I don't understand the whole 93 vs 94/95 issue. At the end of the day there were no significant changes. Even though fewer were made in the latter years, it won't change the long term value. 10 years from now a 93 will be worth the same as a comparable 94. If you look at muscle cars, the ones with a big difference in value were a special edition / package / engine. The year itself doesn't matter too much. Being an R model is what will change the value a bit. But not much, as they all have the same engine.

Now in Japan, you will see a big difference in value between pre 98 and post 99. As that was a pretty decent change. And the Bathurst and spirit R's will have a higher value as well.

I don't know why people are caught up on 93 vs 94. Makes no sense what so ever.

^i agree.

in the US I can only see a significant valve change for those cars made in 95 with a late build date since they were some of the last FDs imported and 95 alone there weren't many imported at all.

It's a 93... october of 92, i think...

yesterday i was in portland with my g/f ... we rented a brand new corvette convertible ... wow ... brutal machine! the thing chirped its tires at 50m/h with t/c in "performance" or "off" mode and made elevens for years and miles. sheeze... i always hated american cars but now... i dunno... that thing was scary awesome. wonder if i should just sell my 7 and get one of those terror machines.

so, i'm back home in vegas now and i still dunno what to do with this thing. while in portland my g/f saw an old, shitty miata and said, "oh, hey! that's like your car, right?" i was like "oh no you DIDN'T!!!" i swear, my last 5 or 6 g/f's have ALL, at one time or the other, made that unforgivable mistake.

Hmmm. How about track car? Roll some aluminum fenders for the back and cut the stock ones up. Rivet on widebody. Go for that uber race "modified" look (you know, like circle track).

OR do a cut&splice on the rear fender.

just ls swap it with a widebody


good to go

It's occurring to me that as much fun as it can be to fix up and drive an old car like my FD what with the prices of parts and the time of doing it or paying someone to do it when compared with just buying a new or used quality current generation car ... well, basically, it makes no sense. this is all about falling in love and getting f'd in the a. my FD reminds me, at this point, of my old g/f who truthfully gave me a lot of thrills but, in the end, was just not worth the maintenance. my new g/f, however, is a lot newer model/younger and if i'ma spend money, it occurred to me, then it makes a lot more sense to get over my emotional connections and just move on.

my theory is this - if more men like us (i'm assuming there are no FD/FC women ... not sure i'd like to meet a woman who knows that much about any car, to be honest. probably looks like Susan Boyle) refused to fall in love with cars that f'd us in the A then maybe Mazda and other after-market manufacturers would be more reasonable with their prices.

Still have not decided one way or the other - just did a spread-sheet on what I've spent so far and what I yet need vs. just getting a new car and --- wow. Still --- I do love my FD, insurance is way cheaper on a POS like her and I don't have to get it smog checked so ... sigh ... it's a pickle!

That is easy to rebuild compared to my build lol

Keep and Rebuild. FD's are a dying breed

i wonder if that suggests they'll be worth more in the future. ya know, supply & demand w/rarity curve? will we see these FD's at Barret Jackson someday? What's the annual investment potential of this thing? Is there one at all?

Are there many/any Japanese cars which increase in value with time? I had a guy at Autozone tell me to hold on to it because, "That rotary will be worth some good money in the future!" I'm pretty sure he's really, really wrong on that one... but maybe I'm wrong! I really doubt it but hey... Who knows... maybe that dirty wankle will be worth something for some who-the-knows-why reason I can't figure out.

pics of gf?

Its really not even bad. Its pretty easy choice if you like vette's better, sell this to someone who will enjoy it and who really wants one, and get something you think's better for yourself. No reason to "junk it" as in take it to a junk yard or something haha im pretty sure some people on this site would find you and do god knows what haha. Just kidding but seriously, it sounds like you dont really want it, so sell it to someone who really loves these things. These cars need people who can take care of them and who can do proper mods on them without ruining it.

There sure are .Look at the rx2 & rx3 coupes when new in Australia cost around $3500 now an original one in very good condition are selling for $30.000 plus

Sell me the shell and buy a new mustang :)

93's have crappy interior plastics that a lot of people don't care for, or don't care to swap out. Aside from that, the cars are pretty identical.

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THAT made me laugh!

and why?

'cause I'm MGTOW ... but with a twist. I'm not a bitter, angry mgtow, I'm more like a mgtow who accepts women for how they are and accepts their true nature - the things church and family never told you but was as obvious as the matrix we all live in.

so, yeah ... i'm not sure why anyone would wanna see my g/f since there are millions of hotties in the world to whack-it too ... and the more time goes by the hotter they get!!! and the second reason is.. :) ... well, which g/f? i tend to ... uuuuhhh ... date a lot of girls. the other day i got busted. as you can see from my photo i'm not too bad looking and look 11 years younger than i am... which sucked when i was young and now it freakin' rocks. i date, like, really young women. last year (gulp) and 18 year old! super hot ... she was fun but, of course, ignorant as shit. all a guy could want who wants to pay for a girl ... which i'm not. hypergamy makes me sick --- the very thought of it. has since i was ... wow... pre-K!

so, i lent my Infiniti SUV to Tani the prior day and Bebe stayed that night... Tani was not supposed to return the SUV until after 7PM the next day but came by at 7AM and rang the bell and guess who answered! YUP! BEBE! Face to face. Oh man, that sucked! Two hot, Asian girls face-to-face in the Las Vegas suburbs. Dude - it was UGLY!!! sigh ... fortunately both girls ended up forgiving me and became good friends and since I have a nice king-sized bed :) the rest wrote itself. They got angry at me later 'cause I was dating a couple of other girls while dating them together. Whatever! Both of those girls, like all women, wanna marry me and have my babies and turn me into their pussy-whipped slave-nig. Eff that! So, I dumped 'em for Stormi... whom I dated for a few months along with Kristen (they never found out about each other) and bla bla bla ... now I'm with Jenny and only dating her.

So, sure, yeah, okay ... I'll post a few photos for kicks
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Dating women in Las Vegas is like shooting fish in a barrel... but it's that way almost everywhere in the Southwest, really...

i've got about a thousand more i could attach ... but it only lets me do 6 at a time :)

anyway, to anyone who cares, please, listen to someone who is really, really old (me) --- DO NOT GET MARRIED! EVER! ... and only slightly more important advice --- DO NOT GET ANYONE PREGNANT! EVERRRRR!!!!!

end of lecture.

Anyway, these are the girls of 2013... and there are more... I can't even remember the girls of 2012 or 2011 or 2010 and no, I have no std's and never have... and yes, lately I'm really gettin' into Asian girls again! Just like in college... weird. Current girlfriend is Chinese 5'9" 128lbs and holy shit hot. No, I'm not cheating on her and yes, she's very rich... which is weird... 'cause I've never dated a rich girl before. it's actually very cool --- hypergamy is not an issue and i love that!

And yes, I know I'm fat as hell... and yet, girls still dig me! Women can smell money and when they find a guy without kids who's not too bad to look at is sane and fun and has a credit score over 800 you find the hardest thing to do is keep their panties on

What's this have to do with rx-7's anyway? ;) Well, a simple discussion regarding what to do with my old car has turned into a discussion tantamount in importance to understanding the nature of the federal reserve. lucky you!

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Attachment 530934anyway, a few more ... just for fun ... as you can see, i take different girls on identical dates that have proven successful over the years ... i'm not a player --- well, not really --- but once you find out the true nature of women, dating a lot of women until the ride gets old and she starts to wanna get married or pregnant then dumping her and keeping your options open from online to the gym or wherever you go just makes sense.

this is the reason i'm having a hard time keeping my FD. I think gasoline companies should give away cars like printer companies give away printers so they can sell the ink. The thought of buying a woman makes me nauseous and that's why I refuse to marry. The thought of having kids repulses me not 'cause I hate kids -I love 'em!- but because kids further serve to enslave a man. Falling "in love" is the key to self destruction. Notice how women don't do it ... not really ... very often at all. Salesmen want you to fall in love with their product. I'm in love with my FD and it's just like a marriage. After a man throws money at something for year after year "she" can get outdated and outmoded and be seen by the rest of the world as most of us would view a GM Gremlin! Yet, for those of us "in love" even the Gremlin is beautiful.

So, is my FD a Gremlin and I'm I wearing the world's thickest beer goggles?

My FD, when new, got me compliments all the time! FROM MEN! So much for the "pussy magnet". Women rarely complimented me back then, they'd just come up to me and flirt and pretend it had nothing to do with the car. Girls who would never have flirted with me if I was in my truck. A lot of guys like prostitutes but I'm not one of 'em. Quit the opposite. So, my love for my FD is pure ... but the purer the love the more bitter the betrayal. I guess if I'd have used my FD back then, back when I was a good Mormon boy, as a pantie-dropper I'd have more reason to resurrect her. These days I'm pretty sure the '93 FD, when compared to the cars here in Vegas, would be lucky to drop the panties of a post-op tranny.

So --- whatever. My g/f offered to buy me a new GTR today for my birthday. I totally don't want it. The girls you see before you in photo I came by without a fancy car. Yeah, I coulda done a LOT hotter if I'd have put more money into my car --- and honestly I used to date 9's and 10's ... but now I hate 9's and 10's. Hypergamous bitches who pretend to care about you as long as the money keeps rolling in? Yeah, I'm not a mangina and never have been. 9's and 10's I've dated in my 20's claimed to love me but money was always an issue and in '93/'94 when I stated to make good money and the 9's and 10's treated me awesome until their birthday presents weren't good enough or the restaurant wasn't posh enough I knew it was time to date 7's and 8's and never look back.

And, yeah, Kristen is a 9 or 10 but she was only 23 when I dated her and that's just too young! Besides, she wanted kids, didn't have any money and no way in hell am I gonna be someone's pussy-pass.

These are the days, guys --- I'm talking to you guys in your 20's and 30's who have not been married and have no kids. THESE ARE THE ONLY days!

Watching TV, hitting the gym, SLEEPING a LOT, eating great, healthy food, traveling, playing your stereo, playing Xbox, playing sports, playing guitar and playing women ... and notice how you don't marry your stereo, your xbox, your basketball or your guitar? Yeah... keep that in mind... 'cause when you kiss being single goodbye you can kiss your FD goodbye too. But not to worry! I hear the Nissan Quest Minivan drives nice and gets great gas mileage!

Holy shit - I think I can feel myself growing a vagina

Soooooo, is this going to turn into a build thread or a life story?

what's the difference?

Really? This is an RX7 forum....we really only care about the car

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haha Fuck bitches, Get money.

or as i like to say

Disregard females, obtain currency, spend on rx7.

nicely said --- but the real question here is ... which is less maintenance? a high-maintenance, hot g/f or an FD?