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Adam's 02' S8 FD3S Widebody
Hey guys,
I'm Adam and this is my 2002 Type R Bathurst Series 8 FD. Had it for about 2 years and it was bone stock when I got her. I always wanted an FD, and I've slowly been turning this into my dream machine. It was recently featured, so I will share some of the great photos with you here! Feature: Adam's Wide FD RX-7 - OFIM Blog FLICKR: Adam's Wide FD - a set on Flickr http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7351/9...6fa348fb_h.jpg http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2861/9...9441d6e2_h.jpg http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3764/9...44a3757e_c.jpg http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7386/9...a6d468f1_c.jpg http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7343/9...ddee38fd_c.jpg http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2818/9...d04409c8_c.jpg http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3823/9...c55e7bdc_c.jpg http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2891/9...5487da69_c.jpg http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7395/9...9bd58088_c.jpg http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5488/9...3ffed1a2_c.jpg http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2854/9...6eed206a_c.jpg http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2868/9...04c224b2_h.jpg MODIFICTATIONS WHEELS/TIRES/SUSPENSION/HANDLING
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That is a beautiful car dude!
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Not really a build thread ..more like a built thread ...:)
Nice ass car . |
Haha thanks guys, there's work yet to be done! I'm on here hunting info for my soon to be single set up! Thinking EFR 7670 if the info on the EGT's shows its ok for use with the 13B.
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Wow, stunning car. I'm glad your going single, anything to justify ditching the SMIC. Beautiful car.
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Damn it I so wish we had 96-02's out here! Your car looks sick buddy!
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That paint!!!:drool1: I like those intake piping clamps too.
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Thanks guys! Yeh I'm floating around here now trying to figure out what turbo to go with (current contenders are the TDX61r and the EFR 7670) and manifold choice. The aussie guys seem to love the HKS cast for our RHD cars. I can't wrap my head around it all!
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I would pm turblown about a tdx61 complete kit. He won't steer you in the wrong direction.
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A-mazing car
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Looks incredible; nice job!!!
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Very nice, cast manifold won't crack as easy, probably the reason why they like it. +1 on the TDX61 kit from Turblown, his kit are very well made.
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Haven't posted here in ages. a more in depth build thread can be found over on FDRX7.com
Most recent feature can be found here. Since then I've gone single. Still a few things to do but for now, mostly on point. Most recent update: New fuel pump went in (Walbro E85 compatible 460lph), relayed it and it helped enormously. That flat spot was gone and the graph now looks like what you'd expect. Had way more fuel across the board so the whole tune was altered to accommodate the extra juice. The extra fuel made it much happier overall. Consistently made 265rwkw/410nm on about 16psi, nice and safe tune. Has a bit more in it I think, but for now I'm happy with how it's set up. This particular turbo really needs high boost to make it truly sing, so E85 and higher boost pressures would really let it shine. But for now I'm just going to get used to the power and plan for flex/E85. The graph gives you a good idea of the instant response and with heaps of power under the curve it's easy to drive and quick as f$%k. Doesn't matter what gear, RPM or throttle position you are in it just goes. The big ass wheel and tyres help keep it planted but it spins 1st, 2nd and 3rd depending on how hard you launch it. You can temper it pretty easily and I'm finding it pretty easy to keep on track. Like I said initially, my goal was to gain power without losing response. And that's just what the EFR 7670 does. It makes more power faster, builds boost quicker, and makes positive boost pressure instantly. With none of the associated issues with twins like transition dip, can't-decide-which-turbo-to-engage-solenoids, back pressure, heat, complications etc. There are other things that aren't quantifiable like drivability. In general it drives better; that's a combination of the Adaptronic and the unrestricted nature of the set up. Throttle response is much better, the car feels lively and angry, the exhaust note is meatier and on WOT just plain scary (but still tame sounding on idle). The EFR itself sounds incredible, it has a beautiful whistle and the flutter is addictive. The recirculated BOV is audble but subtle and sounds great. Oh and it spits flames now! It's absolutely brutal when you floor it, very very quick! I put together a little video of a couple runs and some flames, and a shout out to the sponsors and shops who helped me put it together, they deserve a mentio. Thanks to everyone who's helped answer my questions or given advice, I've learned an absolute tonne about these cars and everything involved. If you guys have questions I'd love to help answer them. Next stop: more boost/flex fuel and videos of me driving it! Attachment 753590 |
Originally Posted by Enigmatic
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Hey guys,
I'm Adam and this is my 2002 Type R Bathurst Series 8 FD...[/LIST] |
Bit of a pointless post mate? What are you basing that observation on? Because visually you wouldn't be able to tell anyway but: they stopped the production of RB's in 2001, by 2002 it was just the Type R Bathurst and Spirit R's being made. The R Bathurst had the Showa shocks, fog lamps and 280ps twins. Not that any of those things remain!
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Very nice build. Love it
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beautiful car mate, any updates recently?
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Gorgeous machine mate, I miss your old feed front bumper personally.
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This looks great
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Beautiful car. I actually have had your car as a desktop background for a while. What did you use to secure the rear overfenders to the body? Looks really slick without the rivets.
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Is this a build?
It looks like everything is complete already. |
very clean!
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Thanks guys!
Haven't updated this thread in ages - I usually keep the one on FDRX7.com active. Fenders I had stuck on and riveted, and the rivet holes filled, a new guard liner was made too. Looks a lot more homogeneous in my opinion! I've changed a fair bit since that last post. It did 295rwkw on E85 and 21psi and amongst other mods - it's been completely repainted and the new wheels are the biggest change. SSR CV01 Ultra Concave 255/30r19x10.5 and 305/30r19x12 in Michelin Super Sports. https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rx7...9b19056c93.jpg https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rx7...24e70284de.jpg https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rx7...a58af35ef0.jpg https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rx7...02e4516fe2.jpg Have a safe and happy holidays! |
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Alright guys, update! (copied from my other thread on fdrx7)
The car is a whole different animal now. I finally got it where it should be where it absolutely rips through the low and mid end and doesn't have that flat spot up top. It's the snappiest 300kw I've driven. Basically Omar at Raceonly jumped behind the laptop and found that it was super lean (dangerously) and that it wasn't hitting it's target boost pressure or holding it all that well, as well as the boost by gear making the car lazy and not working well, attributing to that boost problem. So he changed the wastegate springs and tightened up the boost control as well as fattening it up and smoothing out the mixtures, improved the cold start and tightened it up overall. Man oh man. On paper it lifted that tail end that I had and it made a fair bit more power ALL over the curve. Something he said that resonated with me was that you need to take advantage of that low down boost if you're going to use a small turbo, otherwise you might as well have used a larger one which naturally eases on due to it's size. So that's exactly what it's like now. The graph can't explain how much more exciting it is now, it was fun before but now... it's terrifying until the tires are nice and warm and then it's just batshit crazy. There is absolutely no hesitation or lag, it absolutely roars. Final observations is that backpressure past 7k RPM is the ceiling for this set up, and with a large exhaust and intake, that means it's just the small turbo hitting it's limits. The car is where it should've been now and this is the limits of this set up. Perfect example of how that final number is the tiniest part of the story, it made an extra 14kw~ but it's everywhere else on the curve that is the biggest difference to how it feels. If anyone lives in Sydney and is considering something like this, hit me up and we'll go for a drive. Green is when he ran it up when I brought it in, Red is after it was adjusted. Attachment 749948 Attachment 749949 Attachment 749950 I also had Omar do an AST delete using their kit, as my AST wasn't holding pressure properly. Will snap a pic later. This is what my plugs looked like after 2 years on E85 - NGK R7420-9 R74209, so replaced them all with fresh ones. Attachment 749951 I also had him do the diff oil, flush the coolant with the AST delete, fuel filter and engine oil. It was a great experience. He was very communicative, sent lots of photos and his invoicing and pricing was excellent and transparent. If you're in Sydney, couldn't recommend him enough. Car is also sporting some new aero with the TCP Magic G-face bumper. https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rx7...13a2e58565.jpg It was featured in the recent WTAC Show'n'Shine video by Hartnett Media! Enjoy (FD part starts at 3m42s) |
Looking good. Anyone more pics? |
Originally Posted by Johnny Kommavongsa
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Looking good. Anyone more pics? https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rx7...2b27228fa1.jpg |
Looks like I’m already following ya. Any regrets on cutting up the fenders for the rear overfenders? |
Nope? Never even thought about it! I don't think anyone would ever go back to stock body after going wide. I've never looked at a stock bodied FD and regretted my decision. The feed fenders give the FD the aggressive lines it needs to modernise it (I think). Plus you'd run into issues running any reasonable wheel and tyre combo if you didn't cut, re-weld and make new wheel wells. Which is the whole point of going wide! |
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For those wanting to check out the AST delete I took some photos today after giving the bay a good wash. Covered up the electricals and gave it a good blast. Could probably use having some parts repainted, will get around to it some point.
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Little update - Tails & Brakes
Finally took my Car Shop GLOW lights off which have been busted for like a year and sent them back to Japan - turns out they had a bad seal and had rusted up inside. I've left them there for the moment to decide if I'll have him re-build them or not. I replaced them with some prototypes that my friend Landon from FD3S Nation put together. Originally they were to be diffused but there was light bleed issues so he did an individual LED version to get the prototype out the door to me. Eventually a second diffused version will hopefully be made. I really like the design and think it's a really nice and simple shape that lends itself to the lines of the car. Eventually I will have to take them off and send them back to be amended - the resistors used in the prototype set left some brightness on the table so will exchange them. Can see videos of them on the FD3S website. http://fd3snation.com/wp-content/upl...2/Katana_5.jpg http://fd3snation.com/wp-content/upl.../DSC09988s.jpg http://fd3snation.com/wp-content/upl...2/Katana_2.jpg I also finally got to do my brakes. I researched extensively, looking for kits that incorporated the handbrake and found 3 companies that I believe all source their calipers from the same place. PB Brakes, Ceika and Rolloface all seem to use a similar set up and all offer a proprietary line lock system that allows you to retain the hand brake. They also all sent me the exact same templates for measuring set ups. Each company has a slightly different package though and Rolloface offer incredible finishes. I was going to pull the trigger on a 6 pot front 4 pot rear from Rolloface when I came across WP Pro. My intention for the brakes was mostly aesthetic, my old Project Mu set up was amazing. I definitely didn't need more braking power, this is just something I'd always wanted to do. But I also didn't really want to slow the car down with massively heavy brakes. Enter WP Pro - these guys make some amazing brakes and rotors, and have been since the 80's. Aripin (the owner of WP Pro) suggested utilising the stock rear caliper seeing as I didn't really need the larger piston and using custom brackets like Sakebomb to use a larger rotor. Their manufacturing process involves a 2000 ton forging process using 6061 T6 aluminium alloy and CNC billet machining. The calipers include 3 piston seals and Japanese made 6.3mm transfer pipes. But the real beauty is the weight. Their ultralite rotors are considerably lighter than stock despite being much bigger. I went with a 6 pot, medium piston front caliper and 360mm rotors + 345mm rear rotors with the stock caliper. Here are the weight comparisons: WEIGHTS OF COMPONENTS FRONT ROTORS; OLD 7kg NEW 7kg FRONT CALIPERS; OLD 3.5kg NEW (with bracket) 5.0 kg REAR ROTOR; OLD 6.7 kg NEW 5.5 kg REAR CALIPERS; OLD 5.8 kg NEW (with bracket) 6.0 KG So I actually reduced the unsprung weight of the rear despite going to a 345mm disc and overall broke even. How does it feel? Totally different but it's still bedding in. There is slightly more pedal travel because of the larger caliper - and am considering doing the upgraded master cylinder to bring back the stock pedal feel but also getting used to the longer travel and smoother braking feel. However, if you really need to pull up and stomp on it, it'll put you through the windshield. Totally didn't need them, but they are incredible and look incredible. If you are interested in the kits that retain the rear caliper, Reu has the PB Brake full kit, and Socal has the Rolloface kit which looks amazing too. Attachment 748245 Attachment 748246 Attachment 748247 As always, can see more on my IG @adlawd |
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Thought I'd post here incase anyone might find it interesting.
I decided to change from the 7670 EWG to the EFR 8474 .92 IWG using the full Turblown kit. I documented most of the change but thought I'd just post about that before we have the final results next week. Attachment 747114 Raceonly did all the work for me and I got to be a part of the process which was cool. Not being particularly mechanically minded I found a lot of it fascinating. The change to the 8474 would mean that I needed more fuel and more spark amongst other things. Going from 300rwkw to possibly 450 meant we needed a lot more of both. Attachment 747115 We installed:
Attachment 747116 Also installed a 929 brake master cylinder by Chips Motorsport - highly recommended if you have big brakes to alleviate that spongeness. The price is also amazing for what you get. He also anodised it black for me. Top bloke, top work. Attachment 747117 It ended up being smooth sailing (mostly) - the Turblown kit fit flawlessly. The B2A surge is the first iteration and was a bit of a bitch to fit but otherwise quality. Attachment 747118 Attachment 747119 Attachment 747120 We managed to reuse the hot side intercooler piping and cut it down. A new intake pipe was made to fit back up to the airbox, although the lower radiator hose had to be moved down out of the way. A new dump was made that steps up to 4" past the steering column, then back to 3.5". I had all the parts powdercoated again except the IC and UIM. I did it in satin forgetting I had it done matte last time, oh well - will do the UIM and LIM in the future. Attachment 747121 Everything was fine until this point. We got it on the dyno only to have it lose traction really quickly. We tried a lot of things, changing wheels, headliner glue on the tyres, strapping it differently etc. I had been having issues with the car @ 300kw for some time, in 4th or 5th putting my foot down would just spin the tyres, or so I thought. I thought my tyres were cooked, which they kind of are (5 years old and hard). However we thought it might've been the diff single pegging? Although it's a torsen so wasn't entirely sure. Regardless the diff would eventually need to be replaced so I went and got a 1.5 Cusco and had Difftechnics rebuild it for me. Changed the bushes and in it went. Nope - still spinning. Omar took it for a drive to check the car out and was then certain it was the clutch - despite not being able to smell it. So I managed to get a second hand ORC twin plate 659 from another FD owner. We pulled the old clutch out and there you have it. Absolutely cooked. Zero meat left on it which is why we couldn't smell it. I'm surprised it hooked up in ANY gear. Attachment 747122 We finally got it back on the dyno and managed to do a base run @17psi. Here's the run overlayed against a set of matey sp twins @ 17psi. It's still a very fat tune. More refining and more fuel and boost to come. Attachment 747123 Here's a very rich run where we ran out of injector at 22psi overlayed against my 7670 run. You can see it pretty much just blows it out of the water everywhere. The reason it's still rich as Omar kept it fat when it was spinning to be safe, he just started to trim it out when he realised after this run he'd have to change the injectors so we stopped. Attachment 747124 We've installed 2400cc primaries now and will be back on the dyno next week to run it up proper. More pics here in this imgur album, and lots more on my IG stories @adlawd. |
Any updates ? last one was great and showed some promise !
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what aircups are you using ?
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Originally Posted by lukes
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what aircups are you using ?
Adam's car final power run below; https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rx7...38d3ad4f82.jpg |
Originally Posted by Turblown
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Luke did you get another FD?
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