dhahlen - Darren Joyce - resolved
02-16-19, 10:38 PM
#1
dhahlen - Darren Joyce - resolved
DO NOT buy anything from dhahlen, aka Darren Joyce. He sold me a car for $35k with a lot of issues he knew about.
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02-17-19, 08:17 AM
#3
Here we go again, this is the drama I’m talking about.
Whar Andrey will fail to note is that I’ve offered to buy the car back from him, in full, and cover all the costs of any parts he has purchased, five times. Yes, five times.
he’s local, so there isn’t any shipping involved.
this was conducted as a local sale and did not involve this forum, nor was it advertised here for sale
he’s attacked businesses for their involvement and tried to blame them, he’s attacked the people involved with tuning and if you do any business with him, he’ll find a way to snake money out of you or make it so you wish you had never done the transaction in the first place.
also note that he claimed I sabotaged the ecu before he bought it. Which makes no sense, but he’ll try to say I was out to get him.
This will be the 6th time for all to see - I WILL REFUND 100% OF YOUR INVESTMENT IF YOU RETURN THE CAR TO ME IN THE STATE IT WAS SOLD
Whar Andrey will fail to note is that I’ve offered to buy the car back from him, in full, and cover all the costs of any parts he has purchased, five times. Yes, five times.
he’s local, so there isn’t any shipping involved.
this was conducted as a local sale and did not involve this forum, nor was it advertised here for sale
he’s attacked businesses for their involvement and tried to blame them, he’s attacked the people involved with tuning and if you do any business with him, he’ll find a way to snake money out of you or make it so you wish you had never done the transaction in the first place.
also note that he claimed I sabotaged the ecu before he bought it. Which makes no sense, but he’ll try to say I was out to get him.
This will be the 6th time for all to see - I WILL REFUND 100% OF YOUR INVESTMENT IF YOU RETURN THE CAR TO ME IN THE STATE IT WAS SOLD
02-17-19, 08:33 AM
#4
Andrey also came and saw the car in person, drove it and was extremely happy. He txts me several weeks later, very disrespectfully, demanding a new engine. He wants to refer to "bad things I knew about", but I disclosed my history with the car, how I purchased it from APU, repainted it, bought a brand new OEM mazda motor, had it built, had a local tuner not check timing, sent it to Sake Bomb, had it tuned (poorly), and finally got the car sorted by Abel Ibarra to the point where I was very happy with it. I drove it for about 4000 miles or so, made a trip to seven stock.
He paid $35,000 for it, most of which he had to get a loan for. I have invested over $70,000 into the car and he expects me to give him another $2000 to rebuild an engine that has over 100psi on all faces. Apparently that wasn't good enough.
The car had a leak from the front passenger wheel which I disclosed, I thought it was from the lip, but it was from the sealing joint between the two barrels.
When I sold the car, it didn't have any issues of concern - especially not mechanically. It made over 500hp on 26psi on Ethanol, and he was concerned on running it on pump, which it was tuned for by Abel Ibarra. I lowered the boost duty cycle based on ethanol content (a setting in the limits section of the ECU), and turned it down to hit a max of approximately 22psi, based on lowering the graph from 70% duty cycle to ~55% duty cycle, only when over 50% ethanol content. Anything lower than E50 will run it at gate pressure, or ~14psi.
He stated I went in and adjusted a bunch of things that I personally never adjusted or had any reason to adjust. I lowered the boost for him and instructed him to work with Abel as he knows the car very well. There wasn't any need to do that, but it was his car now so he could do whatever he liked and he likes to harass.
He paid $35,000 for it, most of which he had to get a loan for. I have invested over $70,000 into the car and he expects me to give him another $2000 to rebuild an engine that has over 100psi on all faces. Apparently that wasn't good enough.
The car had a leak from the front passenger wheel which I disclosed, I thought it was from the lip, but it was from the sealing joint between the two barrels.
When I sold the car, it didn't have any issues of concern - especially not mechanically. It made over 500hp on 26psi on Ethanol, and he was concerned on running it on pump, which it was tuned for by Abel Ibarra. I lowered the boost duty cycle based on ethanol content (a setting in the limits section of the ECU), and turned it down to hit a max of approximately 22psi, based on lowering the graph from 70% duty cycle to ~55% duty cycle, only when over 50% ethanol content. Anything lower than E50 will run it at gate pressure, or ~14psi.
He stated I went in and adjusted a bunch of things that I personally never adjusted or had any reason to adjust. I lowered the boost for him and instructed him to work with Abel as he knows the car very well. There wasn't any need to do that, but it was his car now so he could do whatever he liked and he likes to harass.
02-17-19, 11:25 AM
#6
Why not sell the car back to the guy? 100% refund sounds like an ideal situation. I wish I could have had that option in the past where I wasn’t happy with a 25 year old used car.
What else can the guy guy do to make it right? If you think you got shafted then let Dhalen make it right. Destroying the guys reputation is unnecessary...
What else can the guy guy do to make it right? If you think you got shafted then let Dhalen make it right. Destroying the guys reputation is unnecessary...
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02-17-19, 01:32 PM
#7
Andrey also came and saw the car in person, drove it and was extremely happy. He txts me several weeks later, very disrespectfully, demanding a new engine. He wants to refer to "bad things I knew about", but I disclosed my history with the car, how I purchased it from APU, repainted it, bought a brand new OEM mazda motor, had it built, had a local tuner not check timing, sent it to Sake Bomb, had it tuned (poorly), and finally got the car sorted by Abel Ibarra to the point where I was very happy with it. I drove it for about 4000 miles or so, made a trip to seven stock.
He paid $35,000 for it, most of which he had to get a loan for. I have invested over $70,000 into the car and he expects me to give him another $2000 to rebuild an engine that has over 100psi on all faces. Apparently that wasn't good enough.
The car had a leak from the front passenger wheel which I disclosed, I thought it was from the lip, but it was from the sealing joint between the two barrels.
When I sold the car, it didn't have any issues of concern - especially not mechanically. It made over 500hp on 26psi on Ethanol, and he was concerned on running it on pump, which it was tuned for by Abel Ibarra. I lowered the boost duty cycle based on ethanol content (a setting in the limits section of the ECU), and turned it down to hit a max of approximately 22psi, based on lowering the graph from 70% duty cycle to ~55% duty cycle, only when over 50% ethanol content. Anything lower than E50 will run it at gate pressure, or ~14psi.
He stated I went in and adjusted a bunch of things that I personally never adjusted or had any reason to adjust. I lowered the boost for him and instructed him to work with Abel as he knows the car very well. There wasn't any need to do that, but it was his car now so he could do whatever he liked and he likes to harass.
He paid $35,000 for it, most of which he had to get a loan for. I have invested over $70,000 into the car and he expects me to give him another $2000 to rebuild an engine that has over 100psi on all faces. Apparently that wasn't good enough.
The car had a leak from the front passenger wheel which I disclosed, I thought it was from the lip, but it was from the sealing joint between the two barrels.
When I sold the car, it didn't have any issues of concern - especially not mechanically. It made over 500hp on 26psi on Ethanol, and he was concerned on running it on pump, which it was tuned for by Abel Ibarra. I lowered the boost duty cycle based on ethanol content (a setting in the limits section of the ECU), and turned it down to hit a max of approximately 22psi, based on lowering the graph from 70% duty cycle to ~55% duty cycle, only when over 50% ethanol content. Anything lower than E50 will run it at gate pressure, or ~14psi.
He stated I went in and adjusted a bunch of things that I personally never adjusted or had any reason to adjust. I lowered the boost for him and instructed him to work with Abel as he knows the car very well. There wasn't any need to do that, but it was his car now so he could do whatever he liked and he likes to harass.
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02-17-19, 01:35 PM
#9
Why not sell the car back to the guy? 100% refund sounds like an ideal situation. I wish I could have had that option in the past where I wasn’t happy with a 25 year old used car.
What else can the guy guy do to make it right? If you think you got shafted then let Dhalen make it right. Destroying the guys reputation is unnecessary...
What else can the guy guy do to make it right? If you think you got shafted then let Dhalen make it right. Destroying the guys reputation is unnecessary...
02-17-19, 01:56 PM
#10
Andrey also came and saw the car in person, drove it and was extremely happy. He txts me several weeks later, very disrespectfully, demanding a new engine. He wants to refer to "bad things I knew about", but I disclosed my history with the car, how I purchased it from APU, repainted it, bought a brand new OEM mazda motor, had it built, had a local tuner not check timing, sent it to Sake Bomb, had it tuned (poorly), and finally got the car sorted by Abel Ibarra to the point where I was very happy with it. I drove it for about 4000 miles or so, made a trip to seven stock.
He paid $35,000 for it, most of which he had to get a loan for. I have invested over $70,000 into the car and he expects me to give him another $2000 to rebuild an engine that has over 100psi on all faces. Apparently that wasn't good enough.
The car had a leak from the front passenger wheel which I disclosed, I thought it was from the lip, but it was from the sealing joint between the two barrels.
When I sold the car, it didn't have any issues of concern - especially not mechanically. It made over 500hp on 26psi on Ethanol, and he was concerned on running it on pump, which it was tuned for by Abel Ibarra. I lowered the boost duty cycle based on ethanol content (a setting in the limits section of the ECU), and turned it down to hit a max of approximately 22psi, based on lowering the graph from 70% duty cycle to ~55% duty cycle, only when over 50% ethanol content. Anything lower than E50 will run it at gate pressure, or ~14psi.
He stated I went in and adjusted a bunch of things that I personally never adjusted or had any reason to adjust. I lowered the boost for him and instructed him to work with Abel as he knows the car very well. There wasn't any need to do that, but it was his car now so he could do whatever he liked and he likes to harass.
He paid $35,000 for it, most of which he had to get a loan for. I have invested over $70,000 into the car and he expects me to give him another $2000 to rebuild an engine that has over 100psi on all faces. Apparently that wasn't good enough.
The car had a leak from the front passenger wheel which I disclosed, I thought it was from the lip, but it was from the sealing joint between the two barrels.
When I sold the car, it didn't have any issues of concern - especially not mechanically. It made over 500hp on 26psi on Ethanol, and he was concerned on running it on pump, which it was tuned for by Abel Ibarra. I lowered the boost duty cycle based on ethanol content (a setting in the limits section of the ECU), and turned it down to hit a max of approximately 22psi, based on lowering the graph from 70% duty cycle to ~55% duty cycle, only when over 50% ethanol content. Anything lower than E50 will run it at gate pressure, or ~14psi.
He stated I went in and adjusted a bunch of things that I personally never adjusted or had any reason to adjust. I lowered the boost for him and instructed him to work with Abel as he knows the car very well. There wasn't any need to do that, but it was his car now so he could do whatever he liked and he likes to harass.
Here is that over 100psi on all faces Darren is speaking off.
02-17-19, 02:16 PM
#11
not arguing your findings, always possible that something gave away since time of purchase. Whatever it may be, why not just take him up on his buy back offer? Then u have money in your pocket to search for another one of your liking. That’s a good offer, car dealerships wouldn’t even do that lol
02-17-19, 02:35 PM
#12
not arguing your findings, always possible that something gave away since time of purchase. Whatever it may be, why not just take him up on his buy back offer? Then u have money in your pocket to search for another one of your liking. That’s a good offer, car dealerships wouldn’t even do that lol
02-17-19, 03:00 PM
#13
Anyone else catch that? "in the state it was sold"... which I'm sure i'm sure would be with perfect compression. I drove that car maybe 3 times? From his house (45min drive) and a couple times around the local streets before finding out about the map and the compression.
02-17-19, 03:16 PM
#14
Chances are the compression tester you’re using doesn’t compensate for elevation.
Here are the compression numbers from sake bomb, along with the correction for RPM
you didn’t get the sympathy you wanted from the local Facebook group, so you try the same nonsense here with the same result
I’ve had no less than half a dozen people contact me about your harassment and attitude, all of which say you’re trying to frame the strory to your own benefit.
My stance has been the same, even after your first complaint - you could have returned the car to me then, but you refused.
02-17-19, 03:44 PM
#15
Chances are the compression tester you’re using doesn’t compensate for elevation.
Here are the compression numbers from sake bomb, along with the correction for RPM
you didn’t get the sympathy you wanted from the local Facebook group, so you try the same nonsense here with the same result
I’ve had no less than half a dozen people contact me about your harassment and attitude, all of which say you’re trying to frame the strory to your own benefit.
My stance has been the same, even after your first complaint - you could have returned the car to me then, but you refused.
I think we both know this isn't really going far. I'm not going to return the car and I know I'm not going to get anything compensation from you. Just sharing my experience and saying beware. Nothing for me to benefit from here.
If you want to keep posting misinformation about what happened, I have plenty of screen shots to share.
02-17-19, 03:56 PM
#17
Why not get a compression test from a company you both can agree on just to settle the compression debate once and for all? You both may view it as unnecessary but at least it would solve that argument one way or another. And if you are truly dissatisfied with the car just return it. Get clarification on the car condition requirements for a return before you assume the worst, that’s not fair. What is stopping you from returning the car?
02-17-19, 04:10 PM
#18
Why not get a compression test from a company you both can agree on just to settle the compression debate once and for all? You both may view it as unnecessary but at least it would solve that argument one way or another. And if you are truly dissatisfied with the car just return it. Get clarification on the car condition requirements for a return before you assume the worst, that’s not fair. What is stopping you from returning the car?
Kind of deep into fixing the car already. I've got the turbo and Elite intake manifolds off right now. Waiting on new studs from Ray so I can install the ground zero LIM and stock UIM. Lots of sketchy work being fixed. Windshield washer line used for all the vacuum lines with at least 2 T's. One is split between the ECU map sensor and the AEM AI controller. Already paid Shawn for a new map and help with the tune. Lots of replacement parts on already purchased and still on back order.
02-17-19, 04:13 PM
#19
It doesn’t solve the slander issue. He is accusing me of being malicious and sabotaging a tune, which is outright insane.
He did what he felt was necessary at the time of purchase and was happy with the car. Now expects me to cover any grievance he has out of my pocket, after the transaction was complete.
i offered to assist, he then began to harass me via txt, we had a conversation about respect and I stated I would not communicate with him if he continues to insult and attack. He continued, so I walked away.
He could have taken a compression check or done a ppi before buying it and it would have been welcomed. I did not force him to purchase it, nor did I lie. I was open about the history with the car and he wants money, which coincidentally is the difference of money he offered on the car and what he paid.
I’ve offered to buy it back and he continues to refuse. In my book, the deal is done and refusing the solution and continuing to complain about it is harassment.
He did what he felt was necessary at the time of purchase and was happy with the car. Now expects me to cover any grievance he has out of my pocket, after the transaction was complete.
i offered to assist, he then began to harass me via txt, we had a conversation about respect and I stated I would not communicate with him if he continues to insult and attack. He continued, so I walked away.
He could have taken a compression check or done a ppi before buying it and it would have been welcomed. I did not force him to purchase it, nor did I lie. I was open about the history with the car and he wants money, which coincidentally is the difference of money he offered on the car and what he paid.
I’ve offered to buy it back and he continues to refuse. In my book, the deal is done and refusing the solution and continuing to complain about it is harassment.
02-17-19, 04:19 PM
#20
It doesn’t solve the slander issue. He is accusing me of being malicious and sabotaging a tune, which is outright insane.
He did what he felt was necessary at the time of purchase and was happy with the car. Now expects me to cover any grievance he has out of my pocket, after the transaction was complete.
i offered to assist, he then began to harass me via txt, we had a conversation about respect and I stated I would not communicate with him if he continues to insult and attack. He continued, so I walked away.
He could have taken a compression check or done a ppi before buying it and it would have been welcomed. I did not force him to purchase it, nor did I lie. I was open about the history with the car and he wants money, which coincidentally is the difference of money he offered on the car and what he paid.
I’ve offered to buy it back and he continues to refuse. In my book, the deal is done and refusing the solution and continuing to complain about it is harassment.
He did what he felt was necessary at the time of purchase and was happy with the car. Now expects me to cover any grievance he has out of my pocket, after the transaction was complete.
i offered to assist, he then began to harass me via txt, we had a conversation about respect and I stated I would not communicate with him if he continues to insult and attack. He continued, so I walked away.
He could have taken a compression check or done a ppi before buying it and it would have been welcomed. I did not force him to purchase it, nor did I lie. I was open about the history with the car and he wants money, which coincidentally is the difference of money he offered on the car and what he paid.
I’ve offered to buy it back and he continues to refuse. In my book, the deal is done and refusing the solution and continuing to complain about it is harassment.
02-17-19, 04:43 PM
#21
You’ve had ample about of opportunity to get out of it and obviously check it thouroughly before you bought it. If it’s something u choose to work or and fix and make better, that’s a personal choice. It doesn’t matter what transpired after purchase or What may or may not have been told to you about the car. If Darren was wiling to eat the sale and fully refund you, he seems like a stand up guy in that aspect. I’m just chining in with my 2 cents lol Idk either of you, just a 3rd person party
02-17-19, 06:39 PM
#22
you come with accusations and now you’re not even sure of your own statements
02-17-19, 06:46 PM
#23
sounds more logical to me than sabotaging on my own sale, which went from “intentionally” to “inadvertently”. “Look at these values I changed so I can try to scam Darren out of money and get a third party / tuning shop that had nothing to do with the tune or the build say that the changes I made support my plan.”
you come with accusations and now you’re not even sure of your own statements
02-17-19, 06:58 PM
#24
I would have continued to work with you in some fashion, but you’ve made the decision to be bitter on a transaction where no wrongs were committed. Period.
i wish you the best of luck in resolving your personal and mechanical grievances, but I’ve expensed all the time and effort I can to resolve them, without luck.
Take care
02-17-19, 09:23 PM
#25
I don't get it. Who actually set the map to 13.5 target AFR with open loop on? No one is addressing that, and that is the real issue at hand.
He's keeping the car, no one is exchanging any more money. Car looks like it actually works, possibly with low compression on one rotor.
So who set the map wrong and when did that happen.
He's keeping the car, no one is exchanging any more money. Car looks like it actually works, possibly with low compression on one rotor.
So who set the map wrong and when did that happen.