Sammy Built

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Forum member BlewByYou sold me a low mileage cluster. I recieved the cluster, installed it in my car and found out the mileage was not as described and the oil pressure gauge was faulty. Tried talking with him to come to an agreement he demanded i sent it back so he can inspect it and try to repair it. I said no, then he offered me a refund which I declined since I'm currently using my car as a daily and cant afford the downtime. I asked him for a partial refund he declined so now I have to fix and deal with the cluster on my own time and expense. He lied to me several times during the transaction and I would suggest staying away from him. Lesson learned....

For Sale Thread-

https://www.rx7club.com/3rd-generati...erior-1134763/

Sammy

BlewByYou

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You purchased a 100% working cluster from me. Was working perfect before I shipped it over seas to you. I suggested UPS as USPS always damages my packages. You asked me to use USPS I said if that's what u want, I'll do it no problem. You received it in good Condition. Few days later you plug it up and the oil pressure would bounce on deceleration. I suggested oil sending unit but could have gotten shook bad in shipping as they just throw packages around. Miles were 56k and I told you 52k that was my fault 100%. As i recalled 52k for some reason since we messaged here and on Facebook. Everyone else I messaged I told 56k. Could have been a typo on my end.

I offered a Full refund and shipping back to me, you declined saying you wanted money back and to keep the cluster. I dont do credits nor partial payments. You still declined. You call PayPal and make a claim, they side with me bc you didnt want to ship the cluster back to me. I still offer I'll refund you if you will send it back, you still declined.

I've tried to help but nothing came about.

BlewByYou

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cr-rex

iTrader: (114)

If he's military then usps is the only shipping option. You're not in the wrong here. As a seller, you're doing the right thing. He needs to troubleshoot that oil pressure situation with his own car. It's VERY well known that those gauges are crap. They really only work with a brand new pressure sensor.

Your approach as a seller is just and reasonable. Your resolutions are very reasonable as well.

GoodfellaFD3S

iTrader: (213)

Change your oil pressure sending unit before throwing stones, you just might find that the gauge works A-Ok.

Sammy Built

iTrader: (18)

I”m upset because of the lies, he never tested anything, bulbs were missing from the cluster, the mileage was wrong, oil pressure gauge was bad, after the problems starting coming up he quickly told me it was spare cluster on a shelf that hasn’t been used for years. The refund isn’t good enough for me, I paid a lot of freaking money for false claims and already sold my old cluster which leaves me clusterless.

Sammy Built

iTrader: (18)

Rich, I’ve been doing this for 15+ years, I made a video before selling my old cluster to show that everything was working perfect, including my brand new sending unit. I know for a fact it’s an oil pressure gauge. Because my old cluster that I sold never did any of this.

none of this fixes the lies that he claimed afterwards, he told me that it was a spare sitting on a shelf for years which leads me to believe the bad oil pressure gauge but can’t confirmed that, he lied about the mileage, the cluster was missing several bulbs, he lied about testing it and there’s probably more if I start pulling up messages.

if I wasn’t dailying the Rx-7 you best believe I would of thrown the cluster in a box and had it shipped back to him. But unfortunately I cant afford to do that now because of my current situation. I need my car not for him to play mechanic and fix it or a full refund.

My claim was a partial refund for the lies and to fix or replace the oil pressure gauge. Then I would of accepted it.

ecurbd02

iTrader: (7)

not saying I don’t feel your situation, bc a cluster in a daily is an understandable need. But I don’t feel it’s right to base his service off of a decision you made as far selling your old cluster before making sure your newly purchased one worked correctly. You said yourself if you weren’t stuck like you are then you would just send it back. And you’re stuck because of your decision to sell your original cluster. That being said I have no idea what was actually known about the “new” cluster prior to shipping, so I can’t weigh an opinion on that, hence there is no proof of prior working condition before shipping. Either way I hope you guys figure out something that works in both of your best interests

chuyler1

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Send it back and get your refund or STFU. No one is going to compensate you for the pain and suffering of finding out there's an extra 4K miles on a used cluster and a gauge that is known to be faulty is acting up. We don't need your life story about how you NEED this cluster. In the time it takes PayPal to respond to disputes you likely could have ordered a different one and had it arrive before it was time to ship back this one.

BlewByYou

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There is a usdm on Ebay for $700 Free shipping, Another for $850 with 52k miles.

Definitely a few available to purchase besides mine.

I offered many times to refund you but you dont want to send it back to me.

Idk why you wanna keep a "broken cluster" I "lied" about with "more miles" than the one you sold???

Sounded fishy but I still offered to refund you but you declined. PayPal even thought it was fishy when you declined to send it back to me.

Now you make a negative post after I tried to make it right but you want your money back and keep the cluster?? Not going to happen. I wasnt born yesterday bud!!

cr-rex

iTrader: (114)

Regardless of anything else, the facts of the situation speaks for itself. I think the most fishy thing here is the fact you think he scammed you but is somehow willing to refund you in full....

I've been scammed a few times in my life and having the option to get my money back was never one of the potential outcomes. Realistically, send the cluster back and deal with your situation or find someone parting out a cluster and replace what you believe to be a faulty oil pressure gauge or let the situation go....

I have a bunch of cluster parts laying around, I'm sure I can find an oil pressure section if you'd like.

RotaryResurrection

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I think you're being super unreasonable.

The seller hasn't cut off contact with you. That counts for a lot. He's also tried to offer solutions for both repair and refund, which you apparently reject. But you don't get to have your cake and eat it too. You don't get to buy a microwave at walmart and then call them up and tell them that it doesn't suit you and insist that they mail you a refund while you keep the microwave. You have to put it back in the box and drive it back to the store and walk in there to return it if you want your money back.

Also a few additional miles on an odo is of no consequence. IF you were going to be that picky about it then you should have simply sent your original cluster to a repair shop and paid the high price for their work so that you could keep your exact correct mileage accurate on the car.

Sammy Built

iTrader: (18)

I should of not sold my old cluster and he should of been honest from the beginning. Especially when your asking for top dollars on a high value item. But anyways I'll take the lost, fix the bad oil pressure gauge and deal with the mileage.

Sammy Built

iTrader: (18)

He deiceved me from the beginning and told me what I wanted to hear just like a scammer does. (Scammer-a person who commits fraud or participates in a dishonest scheme.) You can trust him. But just because he's offering me a refund doesnt fix anything for me. I need a cluster and shipping it back is not a realistic option for me. Now a partial refund would of changed everything. Even though he lied to me I could of use that partial refund to fix the faulty oil pressure gauage and that would of been the end of it. But whatever I'll take my loss and move on....

Sammy Built

iTrader: (18)

Unreasonable..... I didnt ask to be in this situtation he led me to believe that the cluster was in perfect working order and it had 52k. I paid him full asking price and alot for shipping, so yes I may feel that a partial refund is fair due to the circumstances. I'm overseas military in England with only one car as my primary means of transportation. I cant just afford to take my car off the road and send it back. Its not a pratical option for me. I mean its an oil pressure gauge which in reality can be fixed so why not asked for some of money back do you really think its fair to pay for something not as described. Out of the $566 the only thing I asked was for $150 to fix whats already broken. Thats pretty darn reasonable to me........

Also, theres nothing wrong with my RHD 76,XXX KM cluster, but I did removed it off my car to upgrade to a US Spec cluster which reads MPH instead of KPH. My car truely only has 47,000 miles so I was okay with the 52k odometer but when I saw 56k that obviously pissed me off. Knowing that I definelty would of never considered it.

Even if I'm wrong by not taking the full refund, do to the situation I'm currently in with only having one car.


I still wouldnt trust him or his lies!

cr-rex

iTrader: (114)

The car is fully operstional with a cluster. You obviously wont know the things that are displayed on the cluster but none of them are that pertinent anyway.....

The argument can be made that fuel is important but if you daily the car then you know how much driving can be done before needing to fill up

ecurbd02

iTrader: (7)

Why is having 4K more miles on the odometer a huge deal? You have a right to be irritated but it was also an honest mistake, we are all human here, if anyone on here has never made a mistake in their lives let me know I’ll send you my car as a reward, but it’s just 4K miles, you know the original mileage, sooo simple math with tell you what the true mileage is whether it’s 100k miles or...56k miles. Mine had 60k miles and they had to replace the cluster and now has 14k miles, I win 🤷🏻*♂️ Lol

runyun

iTrader: (23)

I'm gonna have to agree with seller on this.. he's doing exactly what I would do.
A few times I've sold a part and the buyer will complain about "something" not being right and wanting to negotiate a lower price. Screw that, send me the part back, I'll refund you in full, we go separate ways.
At that point, it's not about the money, it's the principle

Hope you two can resolve it.. but I'm with BlewByYou..

FührerTüner

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This.

RotaryResurrection

iTrader: (8)

You obviously strongly cling to your opinion, yet you can see that virtually everyone else disagrees with your stance. You know what they say, if one guy disagrees with you, you met a tool. IF everyone disagrees with you, you're the tool.

Skeese

iTrader: (11)

That's rich coming from you.

I agree with you man and I'd be pissed. The seller is local to me and I've bought from him a couple of times and every part ended up having something wrong with it that hadnt been advertised and in both my cases impeded function. To me seems like a nice enough guy, so can't say whether its an intentional deception on his end or if he just doesn't get it.

Regardless, what people don't get is that a full refund doesn't cover the fact that it wasted your time. I've been issued a full refund for my b2a alternator bracket after the 3rd one he sent didn't fit and apparently there's another on the way but I'm still pissed because its wasted a huge chunk my time and a year later after buying what was supposed to be a finished product Ive still only got a hacked up bracket I spent my time refabbing to fit with a grinder, a dremel and a tig welder. I even told Nader I was going to send him a bill if he wasted any more of my time, so he now communicates through a proxy friend and swears a replacement is coming. Dont care, still pissed.

Fuckem man, those giving you hell here didnt get their time wasted by the guy, it was yours and now you're the one who has to deal with it all over again if you refund.

Skeese

FührerTüner

iTrader: (5)

If you buy a cluster from a vendor, and it gets damaged during shipping, and you dont find out that it's damaged until you install it, the vendor isnt going to reimburse you for your time. How is this any different? Who's to say the seller was lying when he says it was a 100% working cluster? And the mileage being 4k off is hardly a big deal.

Being pissed is understandable, but IMO asking for a time reimbursement (in this case) is over the top.

BlewByYou

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What have you bought from me???

Michael.

BlewByYou

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Skeese, Hard to keep up with you since you have so many fake Facebook accounts..

You bought a brand new R1 roof skin from me, perfect Condition as even listed in your for sale post you had as well.

You bought used rear calipers from me for 60? You seemed happy.

I think you bought some used Axles I had on my shelf.

You never seemed to have an issue with anything till I blocked you on Facebook and removed you from our local classified group for talking ****.

Now you have an issue with something you picked up from me?

Lmao....

BlewByYou

iTrader: (2)

OP was never looking to return my cluster, he just wanted money and keep it. I offered to refund and I'd deal with the issue or if there was any at all.

I've personally never seen a bad gauge on 5 of the FDs I've owned. I've had a bad oil pressure sending unit on 4 of them and did the exact same thing. Held solid one idle, would bounce on deceleration then smoothed out. Replaced sending unit and worked perfectly.

A new sending unit is $150? I'm guessing that's why you wanted 150? Smh....

Either way, I'd gladly still refund you even though PayPal closed your claim. $556 purchase/shipped plus return shipping to me.

Ebay still have 2 usdm clusters for $750-$850

Or you can keep making posts that I wont credit you bc you sold your cluster.

Seems to me mine was the cheapest anywhere listed but I wanted "top dollar"?