read please
:icon_tup:check this out http://www.orbeng.com.au/orbital/tp/...07-01-3625.pdf
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Everything sounded great except the following quote on page 9:
"For evaluation at target torque it was observed that ethanol exhibited a higher tendency for pre-ignition than gasoline. To address this for evaluation at higher load some detailing of the combustion chamber was undertaken. Whilst ethanol exhibits a nominally higher auto-ignition temperature than gasoline, it is suggested that differences in fuel preparation and flammability in conjunction with chamber surface temperatures contribute to this phenomenon." Barry |
"ethanol exhibits a nominally higher
auto-ignition temperature than gasoline" i hear this comment from time to time and do not currently understand how it squares w commonly published autoignition temps commonly published. for instance: auto ignition temp: gasoline... 495 F ethanol... 793 methanol... 867 source... American Petroleum Institute "Alcohols: A technical Assessmant of their Application as Motor Fuels." API Publication No 4261, July 1976 hc |
Howard, reread the quote, they agreed with your, ""ethanol exhibits a nominally higher
auto-ignition temperature than gasoline". The problem statement is ""For evaluation at target torque it was observed that ethanol exhibited a higher tendency for pre-ignition than gasoline. Barry |
nominally can mean two things.... literally "in name" o k it is different. so that works.
to me generally nominally means slightly different... which is not 60%. that said, my interest here is understanding how one substance can have a 60% higher autoignition temperature and a higher tendency to pre-ignite. not saying it does or doesn't.... i just want to understand. hc |
Originally Posted by howard coleman
(Post 9416262)
that said, my interest here is understanding how one substance can have a 60% higher autoignition temperature and a higher tendency to pre-ignite.
not saying it does or doesn't.... i just want to understand. hc |
The second part of the quote is disturbing also:
"For evaluation at target torque it was observed that ethanol exhibited a higher tendency for pre-ignition than gasoline. To address this for evaluation at higher load some detailing of the combustion chamber was undertaken. Whilst ethanol exhibits a nominally higher auto-ignition temperature than gasoline, it is suggested that differences in fuel preparation and flammability in conjunction with chamber surface temperatures contribute to this phenomenon." Barry |
I think the main point that stuck out for me is they have far greater atomization than we ever will with the air assisted direct injection method they used in the study. the fuel pressure was almost 120 psi, and was being assisted by air at around 100 psi. The compression ratio of this engine was fairly high for a turbo setup in rotary terms also at 10.4:1
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