AEM Series 2 EMS
Hi everyone,
I figured I'd post here about the current project I'm trying to do. I'm currently working with FSR motorsports out in Montclair to get the series 2 EMS working on my FD. I'm doing this along with going single and a bunch of other stuff so the project is still in the works. I'll post more progress as the project gets under way. Anyone else tried using a series 2 EMS on their FDs? |
Are you running the universal unit, or a modified (re-pinned) plug & play unit for another car?
I plan on using the Unit 2. |
I don't think they make a series 2ems for the Rx 7.
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Originally Posted by Prometheus
(Post 10687414)
Are you running the universal unit, or a modified (re-pinned) plug & play unit for another car?
I plan on using the Unit 2.
Originally Posted by JazzyFD
(Post 10687458)
I don't think they make a series 2ems for the Rx 7.
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Let us know how it goes.
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personally i like the series 1 ems and software
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Originally Posted by arghx
(Post 10687707)
Let us know how it goes.
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The conversion is pretty straight forward. Any good AEM tuner should be able to do the conversion. I'm hoping someone will come to Tri-Point to have a conversion done.
EB Turbo |
Originally Posted by EB Turbo
(Post 10697404)
The conversion is pretty straight forward. Any good AEM tuner should be able to do the conversion. I'm hoping someone will come to Tri-Point to have a conversion done.
EB Turbo |
Originally Posted by renkenkyo
(Post 10699261)
Is Tri-Point looking for a test car? I'm currently getting a quote from FSR motorsports out in Montclair but they aren't rotary experts.
We do a fair amount of series I ecus. No one has asked for a series II conversion but if anyone wants one we will be more then happy to do it. The series II has its benefits but its really nothing significant. So spending the extra money probably isn't really worth it. I would want one if I had the option. The series II editor has some cool options that makes it a lot easier to tune. Not that the series I is difficult by any means. EB Turbo |
did you ever come up with a base map/settings for the series 2? I'm in a pickle right now because i can't seem to find an AEM EMS 1 for the rx7 and they have been discontinued. I was thinking of doing the series 2 universal version for the FD.
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Originally Posted by Hi Im Simon
(Post 10887491)
did you ever come up with a base map/settings for the series 2? I'm in a pickle right now because i can't seem to find an AEM EMS 1 for the rx7 and they have been discontinued. I was thinking of doing the series 2 universal version for the FD.
- EB Turbo Tri-Point Engineering |
EB have you heard anything about their new Infinity series of ECU's?
http://forum.aempower.com/forum/index.php?topic=28808.0 Would be nice if this drove down the prices of the series 2 units. |
Originally Posted by Brekyrself
(Post 10889613)
EB have you heard anything about their new Infinity series of ECU's?
http://forum.aempower.com/forum/index.php?topic=28808.0 Would be nice if this drove down the prices of the series 2 units. The infinity-10 is going to be a lot more expensive then the SeriesI/II ECU's. Without a lot of PnP applications I doubt it will be a big seller right out of the gate to those other then full standalone and custom applications. Don't expect the price of Series II ECUs coming down anytime soon. The ECUs that we will be using are cheaper then the 30-1800. So once you factor in the conversion harness and engineering costs, you may be $100-$200 more then the cost of the 30-1800. - EB Turbo |
I just ordered an AEM Series 2 Universal ECU. 30-6300. When i get a decent map, I will share it with everyone. If i have time I will try and make a wiring diagram of it too.
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Originally Posted by Hi Im Simon
(Post 10890139)
I just ordered an AEM Series 2 Universal ECU. 30-6300. When i get a decent map, I will share it with everyone. If i have time I will try and make a wiring diagram of it too.
We will be releasing a Series II PnP kit hopefully by the beginning of next year. - EB Turbo |
ack sorry. i was reading the wrong info. i ment i was going to order the 30-6905. I spoke to the AEM tech and he said it would work just fine for rotary.
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Originally Posted by EB Turbo
(Post 10890878)
We will be releasing a Series II PnP kit hopefully by the beginning of next year.
- EB Turbo |
Originally Posted by Hi Im Simon
(Post 10892823)
ack sorry. i was reading the wrong info. i ment i was going to order the 30-6905. I spoke to the AEM tech and he said it would work just fine for rotary.
Originally Posted by Brekyrself
(Post 10893215)
Would it be worth trying to get your pnp version working on a car with twins? I know, I know......just spent too much on suspension this season :lol:
EB Turbo |
yup, single turbo, no emissions, or OMP for me. I'm buying their mini harness and incorporate the stock harness into it.
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Originally Posted by ilovestuffforreal
(Post 10921916)
Anyone know anymore details on what the ems-4 lacks compared to the series 2?
Also how does it comply with our stock CAS? Will it work with bosch coils, or 4 trailing coil method? Series II ecus have the general CAM, Crank, TPS, IAC, ECT, MAP, MAF and a few more spare inputs for EGT and 0-5v signals. up to 16 general purpose outputs(12Low Side, 4 High Side), 8 definable switch inputs, it only has 2 PWM outputs. Things can be done to turn one of the injector outputs into a PWM output. Both will work with the FC CAS and the FD trigger wheel. Both will work with whatever coil you want to use. If the coils you want to use do not have an internal igniter you will need to add one. You can run wasted leading or sequential ignition. You cannot run the OMP with the EMS-4. I don't believe it has the DC motor control. or it just doesn't have the available features to run it. the editors work very similar, they both are able to run staged injection and trailing timing. EB Turbo |
Originally Posted by ilovestuffforreal
(Post 10924023)
well arent around 750cc some of the biggest saturated injectors you can get your hands on?
That really bites.. Then to me this is its largest and only drawback. 8 GPIO will work perfectly for the setup Id like to do. I'm going to this ecu mostly for multi-gear boost control and closed loop operation (coming from a microtech)
Originally Posted by ilovestuffforreal
(Post 10924144)
Alright I've priced the thing out.
AEM EMS-4 $640 96" harness W fuseblock $197 Then as far as ignition... 1. 4 coils crane LX92's or AEM COP $268 ($67x4) 2. Either the AEM 4 channel ignitor for $139 or a very expensive 4 channel CDI box. I have heard bad bad things about every 4 channel CDI box made except for the Autronic 500r or the motec equivalent. or the 2 single channel CDI box method with something running the trailings would seem to be cost effective. Maybe using two of the AEM 4 channel ignitor box to fire the trailings. AEM does make a smart coil that works really well. I would recommend those or the LS2 truck coils. that way you will not have to use an ignitor. When you buy from eBay for really cheap and you run into problems you are not able to get the support you need from the seller. Then when you try and call AEM and they may not have all of the information needed to help you fix your issues. We sell our products for the lowest allowable advertised price from the manufacture. I will contact you through PM to pass along my information. EB Turbo |
I can updated a little since it's been awhile. As luck would have it, FSR knows someone who owns an FD and has experience designing PCB's. They custom built a circuit board to work with a Series 2 EMS so we won't have to repin and it should just plug right up. The EMS and custom PCB will be here in a week or two. I'll update with more information when I get everything in.
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Im going with an F22 (S2000) Plug n play
I'm going to reconfigure it for my FD. I'll update with a tutorial, if my buddy will let me document the process. |
Originally Posted by renkenkyo
(Post 10983329)
I can updated a little since it's been awhile. As luck would have it, FSR knows someone who owns an FD and has experience designing PCB's. They custom built a circuit board to work with a Series 2 EMS so we won't have to repin and it should just plug right up. The EMS and custom PCB will be here in a week or two. I'll update with more information when I get everything in.
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