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$lacker 06-15-19 06:32 AM

So what is new since the Haltech deal?
 
Months later, what has changed?

Is there an Adaptronic forum or manual somewhere?
Are the published features all working yet?

RGHTBrainDesign 06-15-19 08:26 PM

Nope.

Shawn is doing a great job with support and backing up things on his end. He's now running a tuning shop away from Turblown.

I'm doing my part to help people transition to a reliable setup with custom PnP harnesses and an ECU based on your specific needs. I also do engine calibration full time these days.

Turblown 06-17-19 11:46 AM

The search function is being used as the manual. There is also a hints section too.

The wide-band modules have been release, and a new PNP( grand national) since the acquisition.

I personally no longer own a share in the business either.

A new tester is also being made, as the old one was miss passing some tests( which led to to some faulty units).

Things are being updated even faster as instead of just one R&D engineering there are now 10.

Skeese 06-17-19 04:30 PM


Originally Posted by Turblown (Post 12353488)
Things are being updated even faster as instead of just one R&D engineering there are now 10.

So...at some point in the future, those who paid 2+ years ago may get the functional product they were sold to begin with?

Brekyrself 02-02-20 01:12 AM

Any news? Been 5 months since the last software updates.

Skeese 02-04-20 07:15 PM

Nothing that I'm aware of other than a few more people who had to send in dead ECUs for repair...

Turblown 02-05-20 09:51 AM


Originally Posted by Brekyrself (Post 12392734)
Any news? Been 5 months since the last software updates.

A very massive update is close to being done software/support wise. I am not at liberty to speak about it unfortunately.

$lacker 02-05-20 02:49 PM


Originally Posted by Turblown (Post 12393271)
A very massive update is close to being done software/support wise. I am not at liberty to speak about it unfortunately.

That is awesome

Skeese 03-09-20 03:51 PM


Originally Posted by Turblown (Post 12393271)
A very massive update is close to being done software/support wise. I am not at liberty to speak about it unfortunately.

Has this been completed yet?

Sash91 03-10-20 06:10 PM

People seem to sht on Adaptronic with the same mentality as piston guys talk about rotaries. I've been having nothing but stellar experience with my Modular. Shawn has been nothing but helpful and patient with me. Yes the old Select units were a different story back in the day but that was years ago and now irrelevant tech. I'm not a tuner so my perspective is from the consumer side of things. I'll also say that Andy Wyatt's clarity in explaining things is also really helpful. It goes to show why a mighty company like Haltech would show interest in Adaptronic.

mrselfdestruct1994 03-10-20 09:55 PM

I've been backing them since the start but the lack of updates and communication in the last six months are starting to piss me off.

I recently tried to bring to their attention that there is no CLT trim table available when Manifold Heatsoak % is enabled, and the Post Crank Enrichment table has a limit of 300 seconds, so on a cold day my enrichment runs out before the car is up to full temp... They didn't show any interest in addressing it.

I sure hope they consider fixing this in the "latest update", if it ever happens. Wireless communication and arbitrary logic (which we've been promised for years) would be nice too. Sorry for being cynical but it's getting a bit fucked.

Skeese 03-11-20 09:46 AM


Originally Posted by Sash91 (Post 12399236)
People seem to sht on Adaptronic with the same mentality as piston guys talk about rotaries. I've been having nothing but stellar experience with my Modular. Shawn has been nothing but helpful and patient with me. Yes the old Select units were a different story back in the day but that was years ago and now irrelevant tech. I'm not a tuner so my perspective is from the consumer side of things. I'll also say that Andy Wyatt's clarity in explaining things is also really helpful. It goes to show why a mighty company like Haltech would show interest in Adaptronic.

That is good for you, but on the other hand nearly everyone I come across with one has had to send it back to Australia on their own money to have it repaired from internal hardware failure.

All I was asking was if this big pending update had been completed. There has to be some accountability here...or else there will always be a big pending update...


Originally Posted by mrselfdestruct1994 (Post 12399270)
I've been backing them since the start but the lack of updates and communication in the last six months are starting to piss me off.

I recently tried to bring to their attention that there is no CLT trim table available when Manifold Heatsoak % is enabled, and the Post Crank Enrichment table has a limit of 300 seconds, so on a cold day my enrichment runs out before the car is up to full temp... They didn't show any interest in addressing it.

I sure hope they consider fixing this in the "latest update", if it ever happens. Wireless communication and arbitrary logic (which we've been promised for years) would be nice too. Sorry for being cynical but it's getting a bit fucked.

That is hilarious, I mean not for you...but let me get this right, when you enable a manifold heatsoak setting the coolant trim table disappears?

I'm sure that's all captured in the big super secret mega update that is being hung out there for 2044.

Skeese

mrselfdestruct1994 03-11-20 01:36 PM


Originally Posted by Skeese (Post 12399320)
That is good for you, but on the other hand nearly everyone I come across with one has had to send it back to Australia on their own money to have it repaired from internal hardware failure.

All I was asking was if this big pending update had been completed. There has to be some accountability here...or else there will always be a big pending update...



That is hilarious, I mean not for you...but let me get this right, when you enable a manifold heatsoak setting the coolant trim table disappears?

I'm sure that's all captured in the big super secret mega update that is being hung out there for 2044.

Skeese

Yes, there are two methods of dealing with temperature, classic and estimated charge temperature. If you enable ECT you lose the IAT and CLT trim tables and are left with an ECT trim table and a Manifold Heatsoak % map. With this enabled it's assumed you'll use Post Crank Enrichment for any additional enrichment when cold, but it expires after 5 minutes.

Skeese 03-12-20 07:11 AM

That makes no sense...they aren't tied together in function so it makes no sense to me to delete the coolant fuel trim table based on your choice method of handling air temp trims.

$lacker 03-14-20 07:49 AM


Originally Posted by mrselfdestruct1994 (Post 12399270)
Wireless communication and arbitrary logic (which we've been promised for years) would be nice too. Sorry for being cynical but it's getting a bit fucked.

Also waiting for the G-sensors to be useful for something

$lacker 04-11-20 08:14 AM


Originally Posted by Turblown (Post 12393271)
A very massive update is close to being done software/support wise. I am not at liberty to speak about it unfortunately.

2 months later - everyone has been locked down and presumably working hard from isolation
Any idea where we are on this?

Turblown 04-12-20 08:40 PM

I was told the big update is behind because field testing has been slowed down from the virus unfortunately.

Skeese 04-15-20 05:54 AM


Originally Posted by Turblown (Post 12404611)
I was told the big update is behind because field testing has been slowed down from the virus unfortunately.

I wonder if haltech won't let it release with it half ass finished? I say this because in the past the adaptronic field testing has consisted of releasing unrefined software and having their customers guinea pig their for them while they wait for feedback which clearly hasn't happened given there is no update.

Skeese

Rub20B 04-22-20 03:56 PM

also curious if something will drop out our not. There are unfinished topics and lack of functionalities, no proper documentation, sloppy measurement label naming/units, no working knock control, no correct wall film when using more then one stage etc etc.

$lacker 05-24-20 05:42 PM

As expected, Haltech gets the attention while everything Adaptronic gets put out to pasture

I asked the Adaptronic Facebook admin what was going on with the upcoming "big update" and was told:

"HI,

As of now we are finishing up haltech projects and R&D, since the new ecu was released so it is the priority."

Apparently the modular ECU that I bought when IT was "the new Ecu" won't be receiving new features any time soon. Features that were advertised when I bought it, years ago.

cr-rex 05-24-20 11:42 PM

so basically dont buy an adaptronic anymore?

$lacker 05-25-20 11:01 AM

I wouldn't
Things were supposed to improve when they joined Haltech, but they only got worse

Tuned By Shawn 05-26-20 01:24 PM


Originally Posted by $lacker (Post 12414039)
I wouldn't
Things were supposed to improve when they joined Haltech, but they only got worse

Not sure were you are seeing this? It has only gotten better? We just got another software/firmware update - Quality control is on par with Haltech products (they go through the same testing). Other than stock due to covid which is now coming back around its been great!

Cheers,

Shawn Chrstenson

$lacker 05-26-20 05:50 PM


Originally Posted by Tuned By Shawn (Post 12414249)
Not sure were you are seeing this? It has only gotten better? We just got another software/firmware update - Quality control is on par with Haltech products (they go through the same testing). Other than stock due to covid which is now coming back around its been great!

Cheers,

Shawn Chrstenson

I feel like updates were more frequent and tech support was better before the take-over.
I haven't seen anything from Mark or Andy in ages, and they seemed like the core of the project

mrselfdestruct1994 05-26-20 10:51 PM

Hopefully they get back to working on it once the Nexus is released. Wifi and Arbitrary Logic still haven't been released and the Engine Simulator is broken. There are other functions which do work which I feel could be improved upon, but I don't bother asking now as I know what the answer will be. I have my fingers crossed that they will release a big update this year and shut us all up but the situation is a bit frustrating at the moment. If Arbitrary Logic is never released I would call that false advertising.


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