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is this worth it? 1993 rx7
i'm real noob in this world..sorry and yes i really dont know anything about car.
i had 2 accord and its gonna be my 3rd car. i was looking for a new car for few months and my boss told me that he wants to sell his car which is 1993 RX7 twinturbo + ETC...i really dont know anything about car yes, i'm looking for car. i was gonna get an accord 08 v6-L or Nissan Altima but i found some good car =) YES its RX7. anyways she(RX7) got around 80.000 miles on it but someone told me that i have to put the new engine when it gets around 100000miles...is this true?? idw and my boss put the new paint job 4months ago and it looks like a new CAR.. he said he spent almost $2300, yes he meant it... best part of this car is he got 4 cars include rx7 and he never drive this car that why he want to sell it. he drive once in a month or maybe once in a year. he was saying that he want to sell it for $12000( it was almost same amount as KBB price, KBB says $12500 and he told he can sell it to me for $10k in cash.. =( thats alot..because i was gonna put $5g's downpay and getting an accord or altima....anyways do you guys think this is worth it to buying spend $10000?? i forgot to take pictures tho =( but his car looks like this.. silver paint and 18inch wheels and interior are pretty clean too i dont know how to check engine and stuff...only thing that i know about this car is never got into a car accident... anyways here is link https://www.rx7club.com/showthread.php?t=687274 he got 18inch wheels and yes, he got stock wheels too, and he got stage 3 clutch, and shocks but he didnt install it yet, and blah blah.. i dont know if its good or not but he said it cost around $2g's.. if its true then DAMN =) im gonna sell it =) anyways should i go for an accord 08 or? Altima? or 1993 RX7? thanks alot guys. p.s. sorry about my English, its my 3rd language =( Happy new years guys. |
man, alot of people have been inquiring about buying fd's lately...
i checked the link, and it doesnt seem to be the car you described? i responded based on what you wrote above... v v to be honest, this car is surely not for you. the engine usually goes at around 80k miles and the turbos at around 70k miles. the price to me seems like its fair, but you will prob be sinking some major cash into it soon. your lack of knowlege of the rx7 and its inner workings will be your downfall. knowing where to get parts for a rebuild and knowing where to take your car for the rebuild is everything. in the end you will prob end up getting screwd over, and we will have to here another "wat do i do, i just spent 6k for a rebuild and my car runs like shit" sob story. but if are, in fact, able to get the touring fd in the link above for 10k. i would jump on that shit, thats a hell of a deal. if possible buy it for 10k then resell for 19k and buy another car of your liking(thats not an rx7) -adam |
Originally Posted by yogipower
(Post 7694597)
he was saying that he want to sell it for $12000( it was almost same amount as KBB price, KBB says $12500 and he told he can sell it to me for $10k in cash.. kbb is out of date and is not longer used. banks and dealerships use NADA now. its accurate and up to date. but it cant be used for pricing most fd's anyways because when you add mods and rebuilds the price changes a good bit. only if its completly stock and has never been rebuilt can you get an accurate price evaluation |
the FAQs at the top of the 3rd gen section will help you with all your questions.
Secondly, you cant put a nissan altima and an rx7 in the same class. Its like apples and oranges. Look at automatic FDrx7s if you want a daily driver. the autos usually have lower kms, and are less likely to have been thrashed. They are also fun to drive. |
Yogi,
First, welcome to the forum. If you are serious about purchasing an FD, start here... https://www.rx7club.com/3rd-generation-specific-1993-2002-16/faq-3rd-gen-other-useful-links-68640/ You will find tons of info about RX-7s with that link. Although it can be done, I would not recommend the FD as a daily driver. It sounds like you would be using the car as a daily driver and a broken down car would put you in a bind. The car you linked to looks to be in pretty nice shape, but I still would not recommend it as a daily driver. Daily driving an FD can be done (I used to do it), but I just wouldn't recommend it (at least not one with sequential twin turbo system still in the car). As for replacing the engine at 100,000 miles...it all depends on the car and how it was maintained/used. I have seen some engines go before 50,000 miles while mine lasted 92,000. Make no mistake about it...the FD is a money pit! But it is an awesome car to own!! Just my $.02 Good luck |
Originally Posted by yogipower
(Post 7694597)
i'm real noob in this world..sorry and yes i really dont know anything about car.
i had 2 accord and its gonna be my 3rd car. 1) The cars apparently can and do break. The car is almost 15 years old and time alone can be hard on a vehicle. Your boss may not drive it, but someone has put 80k on the car and eventually something will give. If the car won't start, or quits, or even has some small electrical problem that makes it not street legal until fixed, you still need to be able to get to work. That means a second car. You probably can't count on just taking the car into your local Mazda dealer and have them turn the car around for you in a couple of days. Even with a mechanic that knows these cars, it can take time to just get the parts you may need. 2) Money. I'm already finding out that these can be expensive cars to own even if you aren't out to modify them and even if they don't need restoration. An Accord or Altima will be a lot cheaper to operate. 3) Since you are in Georgia, this last may not apply, but I don't ever want to drive the FD again in snow. I did it last week for about 45 minutes East of Albuquerque and it was scary. If you get snow or ice, you will need to leave the car in the garage and drive something, almost anything, else. Good luck. |
Some good points there by dhays, but many people do daily drive these cars and you will pull more chicks in the FD too!
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I will make it very easy for you, since your question made it easy to answer....
NO you should not buy the Rx7. I would recommend you buy one of the other cars you mentioned, such as the Altima. |
Originally Posted by wolfman
(Post 7695045)
I will make it very easy for you, since your question made it easy to answer....
NO you should not buy the Rx7. I would recommend you buy one of the other cars you mentioned, such as the Altima. |
Originally Posted by caredden
(Post 7694669)
Yogi,
First, welcome to the forum. If you are serious about purchasing an FD, start here... https://www.rx7club.com/showthread.php?t=68640 You will find tons of info about RX-7s with that link. Although it can be done, I would not recommend the FD as a daily driver. It sounds like you would be using the car as a daily driver and a broken down car would put you in a bind. The car you linked to looks to be in pretty nice shape, but I still would not recommend it as a daily driver. Daily driving an FD can be done (I used to do it), but I just wouldn't recommend it (at least not one with sequential twin turbo system still in the car). As for replacing the engine at 100,000 miles...it all depends on the car and how it was maintained/used. I have seen some engines go before 50,000 miles while mine lasted 92,000. Make no mistake about it...the FD is a money pit! But it is an awesome car to own!! Just my $.02 Good luck |
Aren't 08' v6 Accords like 30 large?
Buy the FD and have 20k to put into it. Problem solved. :) |
anyone else notice that in the link, it says the car was sold...lol
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Originally Posted by yogipower
(Post 7694597)
i forgot to take pictures tho =( but his car looks like this.. silver paint and 18inch wheels and interior are pretty clean too He just posted that link saying the car looked similar. |
Originally Posted by fdeeznutz
(Post 7696106)
Aren't 08' v6 Accords like 30 large?
Buy the FD and have 20k to put into it. Problem solved. :) i would buy used s2k with 2g's if i have that much cash in my pocket. |
Originally Posted by yogipower
(Post 7696481)
you meant $20000 into it? '-' if its 20g's then i would say NO! haha
i would buy used s2k with 2g's if i have that much cash in my pocket. 13,500 93 RX7, box stock, 43,000 miles 4,600 "built" motor, installed, 5th gear syncro repair (90,000 miles) 1,200 Koni coilovers, installed and ride height set with a good alignment 1,300 tri point sway bar, all bushings installed 1,200 Power FC and commander, boost guage, Knightsports boost controler 4,000 needed for cold air intake, intercooler, other sundry items to get it where I want it total 25,800 (13,500 for car, 12,300 for mods) Oh, I forgot the new radiator, down pipe, RB cat-back, high-flow cat, and a bunch of other "small"stuff. $$$$ Damn.....I can't afford an RX7 :) |
Originally Posted by dinosaur
(Post 7696696)
take the purchase price and multiply by (at least) 2. That will give you a ballpark figure.
13,500 93 RX7, box stock, 43,000 miles 4,600 "built" motor, installed, 5th gear syncro repair (90,000 miles) 1,200 Koni coilovers, installed and ride height set with a good alignment 1,300 tri point sway bar, all bushings installed 1,200 Power FC and commander, boost guage, Knightsports boost controler 4,000 needed for cold air intake, intercooler, other sundry items to get it where I want it total 25,800 (13,500 for car, 12,300 for mods) Oh, I forgot the new radiator, down pipe, RB cat-back, high-flow cat, and a bunch of other "small"stuff. $$$$ Damn.....I can't afford an RX7 :) do i need this parts on my rx7? idw about cars but i dont think i have to replace all the parts tho.. |
No, you don't need these parts because you are not buying the Rx-7.
At a minimum only the reliability modifications are required. |
Just browse this section, and you'll get an idea what owners are experiencing with engine problems. And ask your self if you are able to and willing to deal with working on this car. Figure out where you are gonna take it, if you do have engine problems, see how much they charge. It's a great car to own, but it doesn't come cheap.
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wow, i cant beleve you haven't got noob bashed about wanting to buy a FD but i guess your situation is somewhat different than most other people who show up here wanting an FD, you seem like you just happened upon the opportunity.
Anyway i think that if you are going to buy a 3rd gen it has to be a life goal of some sorts if you want to do it right. first off you need to have money saved, and money to spend. I personally would love to have an FD and I do plan on owning one within the next few years. However, I will have lots of planning and searching for the perfect FD for me. Also i have a FC and i bought it a year ago after about a year of research and forum reading before i decided to purchase it. anyway do not buy a RX-7 unless you WANT a RX-7 If you are choosing between other cars then the RX-7 should be removed from your mind IMO. unless you have researched and learned about the rotary engine and have decided that it is something that you really want to pursue, then move on. TRUST ME! it is for both your own good and the good of the FD. |
Well, obviously there's something that you like about the RX-7...
If you buy it, keep your current car as a backup and daily driver and just consider the 7 as a fun expense for the weekends. It would be interesting to do a survey of the number of RX drivers that actually use their cars as daily transportation. To answer your question, yes, it's worth it if you love the car and don't mind that it's not a very practical daily driver. |
these posts are def one of my favs. a guy asks if he shoudl buy a fd and countless noobs chime in with the same answer....NO.
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i was one of those noobs that didnt take no for an answer!
Quite frankly, the FD is a beautiful, powerful and great handling car, i cant recommend a better car. All cars are going to cost money. I would rather put my money into maintaining an FD than an Altima. |
yes and no on the purchase. Having an fd as a daily driver might not be the best thing in the world great beautiful cars, but at that age and with those miles things are bound to start popping up as far as tunning and maitnance. I don't know it's your call. For a daily driver to and from work and anything else you do might not be in your best intrest unless you have a beater. I would say put th 5g's on the down payment for the new car that comes with a warranty. And then later down the road think about an FD.
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I had an FD for ten years. 8 of those 10 it was my sole mode of transportation. Let me tell you from experience that the FD is an awesome car to have. When it works, it will put a huge grin on your face every time you drive it. Hell, I just liked looking at it...It just those shitty times when you have some unplanned maintenance, like a rebuild or two:scared:.
I'd like to have another one someday. However, I think I'd have to move to another state where I can own a home with a big-ass monster garage. IMO, I'd recommend that you stay away from an FD at this time. You need a backup car and extra funds set-aside for mods and repairs. A rebuild can easily cost $4500-10000 depending on what you upgrade). |
Originally Posted by matty
(Post 7697830)
these posts are def one of my favs. a guy asks if he shoudl buy a fd and countless noobs chime in with the same answer....NO.
You need to make judgement calls about people you don't know to make yourself feel better or something? The message you're sending with a post like you wrote here is that the RX-7club community is not open to new people, whether they know what they're talking-about or not. Is that true? |
I daily drove the FD for 2 years problem free... then one day it croaked. I was fortunate enough to have money to buy another car.
I'm not saying not to buy one - I'm just saying you should wait. It's much less a headache if you're prepared. |
Originally Posted by Trionic
(Post 7699465)
So hey there 32 y/o Stock Trader, you want to tell this 31 y/o Engineer all about your RX-7? And while you're at it, you want to explain to me why having a low post count means that I don't have something worthwhile to contribute? Much like your worthless comment here?
You need to make judgement calls about people you don't know to make yourself feel better or something? The message you're sending with a post like you wrote here is that the RX-7club community is not open to new people, whether they know what they're talking-about or not. Is that true? i wasnt sending any messages to anyone...what i was pointing out was that EVERYTIME someone asks if they should get a fd a bunch of little brats chime in and say not to get one for whatever reasons...usually dumb ones. i have some theories as to why they do this but thats nether here nor there. 1) i say if someone wants a fucking 7, buy one. i think u are misunderstanding something??? 2) i said nothing about post count 3) i am all for the op or anyone for that matter to buy a FD. what i am against is little brats. 4) do a search and read threads similar to this topic. they pop up daily. you will see what i am talking about. 5)i am a bitter member of this forum.....cause i am sick of the F&F crowd. |
Originally Posted by matty
(Post 7700357)
jack ass....what does my job and your job have anythign to do with this thread?
i wasnt sending any messages to anyone...what i was pointing out was that EVERYTIME someone asks if they should get an fd a bunch of little brats chime in and say not to get one for whatever reasons...usually dumb ones. i say if someone wants a fucking 7 buy one. Seriously, the way some of you guys act on here I don't know why you even have a button for new members to sign up. Then you call me a jack ass for calling you out for being a jackass yourself? The problem with you calling me a newb is that you're a guy that sits someplace trading stocks...meanwhile I'm a person who has literally dedicated his adult life to studying machines, controls, how things work, taking things apart and putting them back together better than how they started. And you call me a newb and a jackass? For sure there's tons that I don't know, and I joined here to learn and also to provide some help in areas where I know something worthwhile. I don't need some dude who buys and sells stock blasting me for making a worthwile comment like I'm some kind of jackass. I've been around for a while on other automotive forums and I've NEVER once blasted someone for making a worthwhile comment like you did to me. So who's the jackass? |
Originally Posted by Trionic
(Post 7700393)
So that's why you posted directly after I posted right?
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Originally Posted by Trionic
(Post 7700393)
So that's why you posted directly after I posted right?
Seriously, the way some of you guys act on here I don't know why you even have a button for new members to sign up. Then you call me a jack ass for calling you out for being a jackass yourself? The problem with you calling me a newb is that you're a guy that sits someplace trading stocks...meanwhile I'm a person who has literally dedicated his adult life to studying machines, controls, how things work, taking things apart and putting them back together better than how they started. And you call me a newb and a jackass? For sure there's tons that I don't know, and I joined here to learn and also to provide some help in areas where I know something worthwhile. I don't need some dude who buys and sells stock blasting me for making a worthwile comment like I'm some kind of jackass. I've been around for a while on other automotive forums and I've NEVER once blasted someone for making a worthwhile comment like you did to me. So who's the jackass? i called u a jackass for two reason....1) u think i am talking to you when i am not and 2) your analysis of what i wrote is wrong. you cant be a good engineer!!!!! |
Originally Posted by matty
(Post 7700417)
whoa whoa...thats why u posted about our jobs.....you think u are better then me. i am not going to get into an e-fight about this. thats dumb. but your assumptions are completely ignorant. do u have any clue how hard it is to get a job doing what i am doing?i will enlighten you about just how insignificant of a job it is in pm if you;de like
i called u a jackass for two reason....1) u think i am talking to you when i am not and 2) your analysis of what i wrote is wrong. you cant be a good engineer!!!!! 1. you call me a newb 2. you call me a jackass for calling you out 3. you tell me I'm not a good engineer Want to tell me more about me? ;) |
Originally Posted by Trionic
(Post 7700434)
1. you call me a newb
2. you call me a jackass for calling you out 3. you tell me I'm not a good engineer Want to tell me more about me? ;) u thought i was talking to you...i was not u thought i was attacking newbs but reality is that i try to help people on this forum when i can....atleast in this section. i hate the F&F crew. they usually rear there heads in these threads. if u arent one of them then great. I PM'ED U.....i will not discuss this further here/ |
PM responded. I hope you feel better soon.
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Originally Posted by gmonsen
(Post 7698110)
Let me see if I can help here, yogi, and welcome.
The 7 has a rotary motor, which everyone will point out has many pluses and a few minuses and it is SOLELY these few issues with the motor that cause people on the forum to suggest you shouldn't have the 7 as a daily driver. The body, suspension, transmission, drivetrain, etc, are all just as robust as most other better Japanese built cars. The primary, though not only issue with the motor is detonation. The rotary doesn't take "knocking" very well. They just blow seals and get rebuilt and that can cost several thousand dollars. The rotary motor in the seven runs very very hot both due to its basic nature and the fact that Mazda put too much stuff into the engine bay. The basic nature thing is in part due to the fact that you have 2 turbos spinning at up to 100,000 rpm in a very cramped space with not enough colling air and not really enough intercooling to give you a very wide margin for error. These heat issues can be dealt with very readily through known and not terribly expensive mods that are well documented on this site. However, many people, whether original owners or subsequent owners, modified their cars to make more power by increasing the boost. Many of these people didn't do the mods to match the increase in boost (>boost=>heat) and their motors blew. Most people do it once and learn their lesson. (Some have gone back to class for a bit more schooling, but they eventually get it or sell the car.) If you want a very fast, exceptional handling, comfortable, and beautiful car to daily drive, buy a fairly stock, well-maintained 7, do the reliability mods costing a few thousand dollars when you can, and just enjoy it. I don't think anyone has ever done a survey that compared failures on unmodded cars versus stock cars, but am completely convinced that most of the engine failures have occured with cars whose engines have been modified to produce more power, or, where the owners of fairly stock cars did not perform the regular scheduled maintenance. Finally, while it is possible to spend as much money as you have or want to spend on an Rx7, there is a key difference with the 7 and that is that the value of "good" well-maintained cars is going up. You buy an Altima and its value is of course going down. So, even if you screw up -- and I hope I have made it clear that you don't have to screw up (blow motor), you will not necessarily lose money or too much money relative to purchasing a car whose value will depreciate so much more than the 7. However, I would have to agree with several people here in that, if you just see the 7 as a nice car that you are considering against other cars like the Altima, it may still not be the car for you. Like so many others here, I fell in love with the car and while I bought my first new 7 late in the game (a 95 bought new in early 96), I have owned a 7 ever since except for a period of a little more than a year. And, while I did daily drive my first one with no problems, it was new and I only hit just under 30,000 miles when I sold it and I only have about 40,000 miles on my current car, which recently underwent a conversion to a 3 rotor motor, so, I still won't have experience with a high mileage (80,000+ miles) where others have seen them blow. If you fall in love, buy it. Otherwise, leave it for someone else who does or will love it. In fact, if you decide not to buy it, I think it would be nice for you to let the forum know how to get in touch with your boss. I assure you there is someone on the forum right now who would buy this car in a heartbeat. Good Luck! Gordon now i'm thinking getting a G35 coupe 2005~06, 25k miles, premium pkg ($24g's) or 1993 RX7 with twinturbo ($10g's)=( its really hard tho.. |
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Originally Posted by dinosaur
(Post 7696696)
take the purchase price and multiply by (at least) 2. That will give you a ballpark figure.
13,500 93 RX7, box stock, 43,000 miles 4,600 "built" motor, installed, 5th gear syncro repair (90,000 miles) 1,200 Koni coilovers, installed and ride height set with a good alignment 1,300 tri point sway bar, all bushings installed 1,200 Power FC and commander, boost guage, Knightsports boost controler 4,000 needed for cold air intake, intercooler, other sundry items to get it where I want it total 25,800 (13,500 for car, 12,300 for mods) Oh, I forgot the new radiator, down pipe, RB cat-back, high-flow cat, and a bunch of other "small"stuff. $$$$ Damn.....I can't afford an RX7 :) i heard you can't take rx7 to any dealership like goodyears, pepboys, etc and i have to find the right place for the rx7.. am i right? does anybody that own RX7 from GA? is there any place that i can check rx7? because i want to take this to dealership or car center, check the conditions on this rx7 and i want to know what i need to change(upgrade) and stuff like new engine, clutch, bla bla cause i dont want to put the new engine right after i buy this rx7 and I heard there is one on gainesville, GA but i dont know where is it.. how far do you guys think this car can run without new engine and how far does your rx7 last? thanks alot guys!! p.s sorry about newbie questions. |
all I have to say is, if you think $10,000 is a lot of money for an RX-7, you're in for a world of hurt if you do buy the car.
also, $10k is what you could expect to pay for a really good condition automatic, or a fairly beat up 93 that will need paint, some interior work, and is probably about to crap an apex seal. |
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looks pretty good for 10K, that like half the price a nice manual goes for. have you driven the car yet?
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I haven't been here in so long and i bought a 350z and im still working on this rx7 :) wish me luck !
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^^ you made the better choice for you :). You have to LOVE the FD in order to justify keeping it.
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Originally Posted by montego
(Post 9485927)
^^ you made the better choice for you :). You have to LOVE the FD in order to justify keeping it.
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