warped rotor housings and bad water seal after 7k on rebuilt motor
 

some where in the midst of my radiator fans not working and the shop making 4 attempts to fix them, the engine overheated and warped the rotor housings. Now the coolant in my water pump bubbles and I need a new motor (not covered under 1 year/12,000mile warranty because it overheated) . With tears in my eyes, I'm deciding whether to rebuilt it again, import one from Japan, or get one from mazda. If I was to rebuild I would probably have Jeff do it from Rotary Power in Gardena or XS Engineering since I'm close to these shops and heard nothing but praises about they're work. I heard of people importing them but don't know how reliable they are. Second time around I think I will take the advice of getting an aftermarket radiator and new AST, just haven't decided whether to get Fluidine, Koyo, or Mazdaspeed. The money is coming from my student loan at UCI and credit cards so it's Del Taco for the next two years. :( This isn't another thread to laught and point your finger on, it's a plea for help. I here by summon the Forum GODS. AMEN.

why did you tell them it overheated ??? first rule about something under warranty. "i don't know it just broke" is always the answer. sorry to hear about the bad luck. it hopefully can only get better. my fd has been broken for a year. should be out of the shop in a few weeks. good luck

Your a student with limited funds. GARAGE THE CAR! Graduate, get a good job, then properly
maintane it.

You can't half way take care of these cars.

Well I never told them it overheated, they assumed it did since my radiator fans stoped working a few times. Everytime I saw the temps go up (never got past 3/4 of the way) I would turn the crap off...........the shop also said something to the extent of this -- "although you never saw the temps go up on the gauge it still did". Either way they're not willing to pay for it and I can't do crap about it.
In terms of garaging the car I thought about it, but I like the car too much. Plus my dad's willing to pay for the motor.......what am I gonna do? Say no? Everything else is my sacrifice so no playerhattin on me.......I know my rights. So what if I spend a G or 2 to get the radiator and intercooler? I'll pay the government back when/if I get a job.
What should I do rebuild/reman/import? What radiator should I get? What else do I need to do when I get a new motor? Help a brother out, I want to do things right this time.

Well for one you mentioned it went up a few times then you shut it off. How many times does it take for you to know you need repairs? Now I have scorned you I will help you. Call Malloy Mazda in Woodbridge Va and get a remanufactured Motor and have it put in and repair all your fans etc. If you can buy a beater and drive it till you graduate. The RX-7 isnt for a college student. I bought mine from a student and it needed big bucks to get back to new condition. When I was a student I drove a Honda CRX, I beat it to hell and it ran without hardly any maintinace for 5 years. Driving an RX7 like that will just run it into the ground. Like you have discovered. The Guy I bought my car from did the same thing as you. Drove it as he watched the Temp gauge go up and warped the rotor housings. It sat in the Mazda dealer pouring out coolant. Makes me laugh on how smart some of our college students are these days. You cant blame us for flaming your ass!! Anyways Ray at Malloy Mazda sells Reman Motors for alot less than anyone else I know. Get something you can afford.

What? You talking smack? That's it buddy, your dead. I'm getting a Grand National and coming after you--ZOOM ZOOM. HAHAHAHA
BIATCH!!!!!!!

By the way, what's the number to that place? Is it under 2k? Can you trust these chumps? ..........What's reman anyway? And who said you gotta be smart to go to college? Some of the dumbest people I met was in college. Where did you go? College is all about memorizing stuff you'll never use in real life, getting wasted after tests, and hooking up with school girls that you would never come close to if you were sober. It's a dirty job but someone's gotta do it. Playarhaters. Thanks for responding though, I don't care if you harrass me as long as you're helping out the cause. Keep it coming:D

by the way how's the roads in NH?

I got a Malloy reman engine. Dave at KDR gets them at a group buy rate. Through Dave they are $1950 - they just raised from $1750 :mad: Dave said that upon tearing the engines down to streetport them - out of 100 some engines he's done from Malloy, only one had a 1 used rotor in it - very good for remanufactured engines. Dave does very nice work and it is smart when you do a rebuild to have all new seals silicone seals, gaskets, oil porting, and coolant porting - it basically bulletproofs your rotary. It costs around $3500 for this to be done to a reman engine (including the $1950 for engine) Well worth it to me.

this was the most informative reply so far. thanks a lot man.

hey stallion, ill be going to UCI this fall what year is your 7?
maybe we can meet up sometime.
email me at mazdaspeed00@aol.com

A simple after market water temp gauge could have helped you prevent this entire mess. No super radiator or AST will save you if something happens like a leak or.... bad fans. The dealer was right about the stock gauge. Bottom line is that if it moves off center it's probably already to late.

i see your point but the shop had like 5 tries to fix the stupid fan problem (which was due to a messed up relay switch) and I guess the last time they failed to do so was enough to kill my motor. Plus the stock temp gauge went up so fast that i had hardly enough time to react. Maybe the temp gauge would have helped but it's too much money....plus theyre on back order and take like 5 days to install.

Go to Rotary Power in Gardena to get it rebuilt. KDR would be great but since you're alot closer to Gardena...

If you can get the money, I would highly suggest on getting new components for the engine. You can also save some money if you pull the engine yourself.

I've had a few friends have their engines rebuilt at Rotary Power and they did an excellent job. I am thinking of using them for if/when I need my rebuild.

Good luck.

Since your engine is practically fkd, use some

If you had the car in the shop 5 times to fix the fans and that is the cause of your motor being damaged than it is Their fault. You need to get nasty with them and tell them if they would have fixed the fans the first or second or third time that the engine would have been fine. Tell them that you are NOT a mechanic when they gave the car back to you and said it was fixed you took their word for it. It IS their fault. Get nasty with them and tell them if they don't want to do anything about it than you will talk to a lawyer. The last thing they want is a law suit.
I am a Jaguar tech. If a car came to me for an over heating problem and I sent it out as fixed and it came back with a blown motor. Not only would the dealership be paying for the motor but I would be doing the job for free.

Don't let them screw you. They will try anything not to pay for it, but is their fault. They had plenty of opertunity to fix the problem. If they had fixed it you would still be driving, right?

Good luck,
Mike

Man I hate to hear about your motor.

But i dont like repeating things over and over but just to throw my 2 cents in i would agree with stinkfist. I think the shop needs to pay for it. Just get nasty with them one time and if they dont see things your way all you have to end the discussion with is "the next time you hear about this problem will be from my lawyer, have a good day" Or some crap like that. Then get a lawyer to write a letter and go from there.
well good luck
later

Yeah, I already talked to Jeff at Rotary Power and he said he would build me a good motor. I'm either gonna go to him or XS engineering. In terms of the motor being the shops fault--it's a no brainer (can't believe how many times I was stuck on the road because of that stupid coolant light coming on) but they don't want to pay and I heard you can't do much about that. Jeff said that even though it's their fault that the engine overheated so many times, it's a hassel if you take it to court and even if you win it's hard to collect your money. I guess the California law is very lenient on bad shops. What I want to know is how the radiator fans make that big of a difference, because the temps would go up way too fast. At some point I even remeber that the fans were working and the coolant light was still on (just like now). WTF? Too bad I'm not a damn mechanic I would go over there and set some people strait.

Too much money? Back ordered? 5 days to install? I don't normally get nasty on this forum but this is nothing but BS. It sounds to me like you wanted to blow your motor. Lets take a pool, what takes more money and time to install, a motor or temp gauge. I bought my temp gauge for $40 and you can put one in in less than a day. As for back ordered well maybe you should try a different place if your first try doesn't fly. And as for taking it to Mazda 5 times and not getting it fixed that just blowes me away. They are stupid for sending the car back out not fixed and perhaps responsable for the motor but how many times does it take you to learn that they are stupid and aren't solving your problem? It would be a hard legal battle to win because you drove the car without working fans and that was the cause of the blown motor. You knew you had a big problem and yet you still went ahead and drove the car. I just don't get it and I don't think the judge would either.
cvs

Listen here Orgasmo, don't trip out:

1)I was joking about the damn temp gauge..........you were right I should have done it.

2)I didn't take it to no damn Mazda dealer. It was a shop called Fast Freddy's, aka Rotary Reliability (ironic if you ask me).

3)I though they knew what they were doing and everytime they gave me the car back they said the problem was solved. Everytime the light went on I drove it back. What was I supposed to do?

Fuck, you're stressing me out Dumbasscus. At least you still have your motor so don't worry about me. Life goes on. Give it up for DNA.

Joking... Hmmm didn't catch on, sorry. Well take a look at http://www.hurleyrotary.com/ That might help in your motor building:) Most people consider their seals to be the best. Good luck!
cvs

thanks for the info. I've decided to park the car for a few months and then do the rebuild and go single. This way i dont have to stress about anything until i have the money. once I get the money i'll go psycho. CASH MONEY!!!!!!!