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Sukai94 06-18-08 02:39 PM
Is it true (Mazda remans)?
 
I heard from Ray that Mazda stopped the production of remans. I mean, if it comes from Ray I believe it but WTF?

The thing that sucks is that Mazda owes me a reman. That is where it is getting exciting. Apparently this was not just a random decision though. I guess Malloy had 5 remans they were supposed to get about a month and a half ago. I heard Mazda put them on an engine dyno/had them inspected and all failed. Can anyone verify this?

7_rocket 06-18-08 02:41 PM
Have you spoken to ray? I believe that would asnwer your question

Hitokiri_Gensai 06-18-08 06:19 PM
i was at my local mazda dealership, about... 2 weeks ago asking about remans and they said they could still get them.

as i understand it tho, OEM parts are only required to be kept stocked for 10 years after the production date, in this case, 1995, so technically they dont have to keep any OEM parts for the FD's stocked anymore.

neit_jnf 06-18-08 06:38 PM
FD's were produced until 2002

zayrx7 06-18-08 10:36 PM
Originally Posted by Sukai94 (Post 8295892)
I heard from Ray that Mazda stopped the production of remans. I mean, if it comes from Ray I believe it but WTF?

The thing that sucks is that Mazda owes me a reman. That is where it is getting exciting. Apparently this was not just a random decision though. I guess Malloy had 5 remans they were supposed to get about a month and a half ago. I heard Mazda put them on an engine dyno/had them inspected and all failed. Can anyone verify

this?

no more reman, out of parts. New engines will be coming from japan

dhays 06-18-08 10:38 PM
Originally Posted by zayrx7 (Post 8297574)
no more reman, out of parts. New engines will be coming from japan
Yeah, that is what Ray told me yesterday. He said the problem was that Mazda ran out of cores. They will be selling new J-spec engines with core exchange. The idea is to replace their stock of cores that can be remanufactured.

viperkiller7 06-18-08 10:40 PM
most of there remans are junk anyway...as we all know already

pomanferrari 06-18-08 11:27 PM
Originally Posted by viperkiller7 (Post 8297585)
most of there remans are junk anyway...as we all know already
Not true. I bought a Malloy Reman almost 5 years ago, 20K miles, still has 19 in. Hg of vacuum, Steve Kan tuned 6/13/08 with 311 whp, 264 w-ftlbs of torque at 12 psi on California 91 pisswater.

I would definitely buy another.

moconnor 06-18-08 11:54 PM
Originally Posted by pomanferrari (Post 8297735)
Not true. I bought a Malloy Reman almost 5 years ago, 20K miles, still has 19 in. Hg of vacuum, Steve Kan tuned 6/13/08 with 311 whp, 264 w-ftlbs of torque at 12 psi on California 91 pisswater.
He said most - not all. There have been may post by rebuilders on this site who tear down remans and find all sorts of half-assed assembly issues. Many rebuilders will tear down and test remans before putting them in a car.

There has also been a switch in the reassembly company since you bought yours.

Turbo II FC 06-19-08 02:15 PM
I would way rather have a new engine built from Mazda Japan than a reman from USA.

djseven 06-19-08 02:48 PM
There are always other options other than remans :)

turb0x2 06-19-08 03:02 PM
Originally Posted by pomanferrari (Post 8297735)
Not true. I bought a Malloy Reman almost 5 years ago, 20K miles, still has 19 in. Hg of vacuum, Steve Kan tuned 6/13/08 with 311 whp, 264 w-ftlbs of torque at 12 psi on California 91 pisswater.

I would definitely buy another.

I would have to agree...my last reman was installed in 2001 has about 30k miles still pulls 19in. vac and I have been singled with approx 420rwhp fro a few years now! *knock on wood ;-)*

Tom93R1 06-19-08 03:03 PM
From what I have seen of remans I would never buy one, so IMO there is no big loss if Mazda stops selling them.

We just pulled one apart tuesday that was in a stock car for about a year. It had a stock exhaust port on the rear and a huge port on the front. I am talking at least double the flow of stock... How can somebody not notice that when building a reman engine? I need to find out but I bet the reason they pulled it was uneven compression front to rear.

Mahjik 06-19-08 03:17 PM
Originally Posted by Tom93R1 (Post 8299602)
From what I have seen of remans I would never buy one, so IMO there is no big loss if Mazda stops selling them.
Actually there is a loss as they are an inexpensive source for good/new engine parts. Prices of new housings and rotors have increased over the last few years yet reman prices have only slightly increased. Even if the build quality isn't perfect, it's still a good start for someone who has damaged a majority of their own internals.

skir2222 06-19-08 06:59 PM
My reman lasted 30k then choked itself because of the poor oil pan gasket seal and chewed itself up, I guess it was just to depressed and sad to go on in life... :(

tzbfwt 06-20-08 12:05 PM
New Mazda Reman Plant?
 
:devil:
You all know that mazda is switching to a newly built, internally operated reman facility in virginia now, right? That is likely the reason for delay, while that new plant gets operational and the operation is moved from the old plant, they are likely not producing any more remans.

This is good news because in the past remans were subcontracted outside of mazda, but now mazda is apparently taking a more active role. There is a fellow on rx8club who is employed by the new plant and is/was trained by a rotary engineer from Japan.
Ha ! I guess this means enough RX-8s are blowing up now to warrant a real Mazda-owned Reman Plant. Good News for FD owners - I'm sure the FD volumes alone could not justify a new plant... If the remans come with NEW rotor housings and rotors (not sure they do) - I'd buy one in a heartbeat...

On the other hand... Can the LSx conversion kit for the RX-8 be far behind?

Tom93R1 06-20-08 02:04 PM
Originally Posted by tzbfwt (Post 8302372)
:devil:
If the remans come with NEW rotor housings and rotors (not sure they do) - I'd buy one in a heartbeat...
Obviously they dont, as the one I mentioned a few posts back had a ported exhaust. The remanufacturer is supposed to spec out a part, if its still in spec it gets used. Sucks because it can be barely within spec and 5000 miles down the road its now worn out of spec. I think of a reman like buying a core that Mazda says will run.


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