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kensin 05-03-17 02:02 PM

TOWING POINT without tow hook*semi urgent
 
so its that time where my transmission is failed and things are breaking apart and I need to tow the car to a shop where I'm getting things replaced ( wont engage in gear and possible pilot bearing is shattered)

however, I have no tow points front or back do I need to install a rear tow hook for now just so I can pull the car onto the flatbed with out anything getting damaged ?

the front seems like a hassle to install on the spot ( the car is in a storage unit )

the rear seems like I just need to buy a rear tie down ( 3 bolts?) and a Feed tow hook or something similar to have a working tow point to pull the FD ass backwards onto the flat bed

any advice ?

much appreciated

Brody8877 05-03-17 02:05 PM


Originally Posted by kensin (Post 12180297)
so its that time where my transmission is failed and things are breaking apart and I need to tow the car to a shop where I'm getting things replaced ( wont engage in gear and possible pilot bearing is shattered)

however, I have no tow points front or back do I need to install a rear tow hook for now just so I can pull the car onto the flatbed with out anything getting damaged ?

the front seems like a hassle to install on the spot ( the car is in a storage unit )

the rear seems like I just need to buy a rear tie down ( 3 bolts?) and a Feed tow hook or something similar to have a working tow point to pull the FD ass backwards onto the flat bed

any advice ?

much appreciated

Front has two tow hooks, is under the bumper. Rear has no tow hooks for US model (Supposedly removed after port delivery). I have supernow rear tow hook that goes in place where the rear tow hook is supposed to be.

fendamonky 05-03-17 02:08 PM

You can also hook to the underside of the subframe to winch your car onto a flatbed if it becomes necessary.

kensin 05-03-17 02:16 PM


Originally Posted by fendamonky (Post 12180304)
You can also hook to the underside of the subframe to winch your car onto a flatbed if it becomes necessary.

i know the 2 points where you can hook it right behind the front wheels but wont that damage the front bumper once force is applied and start to pull ?

kensin 05-03-17 02:16 PM


Originally Posted by Brody8877 (Post 12180301)
Front has two tow hooks, is under the bumper. Rear has no tow hooks for US model (Supposedly removed after port delivery). I have supernow rear tow hook that goes in place where the rear tow hook is supposed to be.

ive look into my front and i don't see anything resemble a tow hook or any potential hook point :(

jetlude 05-03-17 02:36 PM


Originally Posted by kensin (Post 12180297)
so its that time where my transmission is failed and things are breaking apart and I need to tow the car to a shop where I'm getting things replaced ( wont engage in gear and possible pilot bearing is shattered)

however, I have no tow points front or back do I need to install a rear tow hook for now just so I can pull the car onto the flatbed with out anything getting damaged ?

the front seems like a hassle to install on the spot ( the car is in a storage unit )

the rear seems like I just need to buy a rear tie down ( 3 bolts?) and a Feed tow hook or something similar to have a working tow point to pull the FD ass backwards onto the flat bed

any advice ?

much appreciated

You can open the hood attach the tow line to the strut bar.

jetlude 05-03-17 02:38 PM


Originally Posted by jetlude (Post 12180315)
You can open the hood attach the tow line to the strut bar.

^^ I have personally done this for a five mile journey.

kensin 05-03-17 02:42 PM


Originally Posted by jetlude (Post 12180315)
You can open the hood attach the tow line to the strut bar.

hmm is it safe lol ? i just need it to get onto the flat bed and unload when I'm at my destination

over 100 mile trip but it would only use about 15seconds each on loading and unloading

armans 05-04-17 12:59 AM


Originally Posted by kensin (Post 12180307)
i know the 2 points where you can hook it right behind the front wheels but wont that damage the front bumper once force is applied and start to pull ?

no if they pivot the chain at the end of the flat bed so that the chain doesn't raise above the ground too much. I've done this with my car several times, with a very low front bumper.

kensin 05-04-17 01:06 AM


Originally Posted by armans (Post 12180455)
no if they pivot the chain at the end of the flat bed so that the chain doesn't raise above the ground too much. I've done this with my car several times, with a very low front bumper.

didn't think about that ! I have AAA member with tow service
I hope those AAA flat beds can pivot the chains. thanks for telling me that :icon_tup:

Moe Greene 05-04-17 01:37 AM


Originally Posted by kensin (Post 12180318)
hmm is it safe lol ? i just need it to get onto the flat bed and unload when I'm at my destination

over 100 mile trip but it would only use about 15seconds each on loading and unloading

If something has to get ruined why not the two front axels? At worst they would bend just a bit. For the strut tower you run the risk of frame damage nothing near the ease of dropping in two new axels.

Sgtblue 05-04-17 06:43 PM


Originally Posted by fendamonky (Post 12180304)
You can also hook to the underside of the subframe to winch your car onto a flatbed if it becomes necessary.

^ This.
I partially worked my way through college driving a tow truck. I would NOT hook it to the shock tower brace. While the mounting points are certainly strong enough, the brace is only strong in tension/compression. Winching the car, and especially as the car starts up the ramp/bed there will be lateral forces which could cause it to bend.
The driver should have a soft strap that will go around the front crossmember without risking any damage to the oil pan. Loops at either end that the cable hook can attach to. And a snatch-block on the cable at the end of the truck bed should keep the cable angle low.

ZE Power MX6 05-05-17 12:19 PM


Originally Posted by Moe Greene (Post 12180462)
If something has to get ruined why not the two front axels? At worst they would bend just a bit. For the strut tower you run the risk of frame damage nothing near the ease of dropping in two new axels.

What axles?

OP: Why not just remove the bumper? Doesn't take long, then you can strap it anywhere you want.

kensin 05-05-17 09:47 PM

well I thought about removing the bumper for it. but it's such a hassle in a very tight spot (storage unit) but I sort of have an idea now. I have a rear tie down and a feed towhook on the way. if that doesn't work then removing the bumper and hooking onto the rail hole behind the front wheels will be my next option

Brody8877 05-09-17 10:14 AM


Originally Posted by kensin (Post 12180982)
well I thought about removing the bumper for it. but it's such a hassle in a very tight spot (storage unit) but I sort of have an idea now. I have a rear tie down and a feed towhook on the way. if that doesn't work then removing the bumper and hooking onto the rail hole behind the front wheels will be my next option

This is how the front tow hooks look like, you can access it from under the car.

https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rx7...f0e64e99a1.jpg
https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rx7...b2460dcdc6.jpg

kensin 05-10-17 10:04 AM

thanks buddy ok I got an idea. but I think it's blocked by the undertray?

Brody8877 05-10-17 11:14 AM


Originally Posted by kensin (Post 12182200)
thanks buddy ok I got an idea. but I think it's blocked by the undertray?

The undertray doesn't cover up the tow hooks, it should stick out pass a bit or the same height as the under tray.

Sgtblue 05-10-17 11:37 AM

That is not a Tow Hook. That's a tie-down bracket for shipping purposes.

Brody8877 05-10-17 11:42 AM


Originally Posted by Sgtblue (Post 12182239)
That is not a Tow Hook. That's a tie-down bracket for shipping purposes.

Shouldn't it work if it need to be winched onto a flat bed or tied to a flat bed for transportation? :scratch:

Sgtblue 05-10-17 11:52 AM

You're using it for something it wasn't designed for. It's strongest in tension (pulling force, straight down). If the car rolls easily, on a smooth surface and is pulled dead straight it might work fine. But pull too hard or laterally and it will bend/fail. Personally if a tow truck driver tried to use that to winch my car I'd drop him like a fat kid falling down stairs.

Brody8877 05-10-17 12:06 PM


Originally Posted by Sgtblue (Post 12182245)
You're using it for something it wasn't designed for. It's strongest in tension (pulling force, straight down). If the car rolls easily, on a smooth surface and is pulled dead straight it might work fine. But pull too hard or laterally and it will bend/fail. Personally if a tow truck driver tried to use that to winch my car I'd drop him like a fat kid falling down stairs.

:lol: you sir have made my morning lol

kensin 05-10-17 12:24 PM


Originally Posted by Sgtblue (Post 12182245)
You're using it for something it wasn't designed for. It's strongest in tension (pulling force, straight down). If the car rolls easily, on a smooth surface and is pulled dead straight it might work fine. But pull too hard or laterally and it will bend/fail. Personally if a tow truck driver tried to use that to winch my car I'd drop him like a fat kid falling down stairs.

lol the fat kid comment:icon_tup:

so how would i pull the car onto a flatbed ? like others suggested by hooking onto the spot behind the front wheels ?

Sgtblue 05-10-17 12:34 PM

See post #12 for my opinion.

kensin 05-10-17 12:47 PM


Originally Posted by Sgtblue (Post 12182270)
See post #12 for my opinion.

just so i am totally clear its this spot to wrap the soft strap to?
and thanks for all the advice and extra knowledge for all the specific parts
dont want to sound like an idiot if the driver starts arguing with me on what the parts can do because hes been doing it for a long time and i have no clue if he is right or wrong
https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rx7...3c680d3b3c.jpg

Sgtblue 05-10-17 03:04 PM

Yes, anywhere on that front crossmember as long as it doesn't include the tie rods or aluminum suspension parts. And I would ask that he use a looped end tow strap. His truck SHOULD have one, probably a 10 footer. Simply run that around the crossmember and bring both looped ends out to the hook on his cable. The car is low and if the cable angle starts to contact the bumper cover or lip he should be able to put a snatch-block on the cable to keep it lower...at least until the car starts up the bed. He'll probably then use the front cable and a second chain from the rear subframe to the truck bed to secure the car during transport. It might cost you, the car's a PITA compared to most. But IMO it'll be worth it to have him take the time.


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