Should I just give up?
 

Should i just give up? My fingers are frost bitten and numb. My mind is slowly being driven over the edge. I seriously don't know what the fuck to do anymore. Today I had repaired my TPS its screw holes were cracked and it wasn't stayin in place. It was starting just fine rlast thursday which was the last time I had attempted to start it. After putting it all back together and my 99 spec bumper and fogs on today it attempted to start it, only problem was i heard a large pop sound as it was starting and then it died instantly....HAVE I LOST COMPRESSION? It started to smoke instantly from the exhaust side of the engine and the exhaust was billowing huge gobs of white smoek into the garage.....I'm losing my mind you guys. I seriously don't know what to do anymore? Maybe it's just karma maybe I wasn't supposed have one of these? Maybe I'm not supposed to be on the road at all. Maybe its just fate that I shouldn't have a working dream car.

I'm taking a 2 month break from all this bullshit. I give for now.

Xeros - obviously not worthy to be in the presence of great drivers and tuners such as yourselves.

check the map sensor?

where the hell is the MAP sensor? I looked in the manual and couldn't find its location.

Map Sensor, on the drivers firewall at the back of the UIM ( upper intake manifold) near the throttle, its a small black box with 'sensor' on it , it has a plug going into it but also has a small vacume tube running from it to the back of the manifold, make sure this is plugged in .

Ya, what he said /\

When I changed my clutch hose with the help of a friend, I must have loosened mine. The next day while driving around, I heard a pop, and my car ran like ass, w/all the smoke & wanting to stall, etc. I thought I blew my motor as well, and thought of fixing it with a sledgehammer :mad:
Big relief!

yeah definitely plugged in! I actually though it was the probat first too, when it wouldn't start and stay but it is fine.....

that bit in the circle

yes yes plugged in. connected and everything

That wouldn't cause a loudpop sound would it?

you checked the other end of the tube too? It should go to a nipple on the back of the uim. It would make sense that this was the problem since you were messing around back there with the tps. I'm not sure if many people have popped an engine just after start up...w/o actually running thecar. Maybe I'm wrong.

Yeah it definitely could. Mine fell off when I did a greddy elbow and the car ran exactly like it had a blown motor.

nm

reaalllyy.....could it get clogged with from the inside of UIM, with say off some silicone gasket maker?

what about a lot of billowing smoke? Woudl it casue that too? Especially form the exhaust end of the engine?

maybe

deffinitly

any other ideas? What woudl cause that much smoking though?

Just double checked the MAP sensor. Wont start. Starts with gas pedal all the way down on the floor and revs up very slowly but will not pick up speed and dies the minute the foot comes off the gas. Coudl the sensor it self be fried? I did blow into the vacuum hoses ot try and clean them out and they seemed to be passing air perfectly but still no go. What else would cause this?

Do you guys think I should ummmm.......replace it? How much would that COST ME?

More questions keep opping up in my mind to more I think about it. Would there be any damage to the engine....If i tried to start it in that state a couple of times?

make sure that map sensor hose is on the right nipple, i put mine on something that didnt actually have a hole on it, it looked like the right place for it, but that is exactly what happened, i floored it and it died, but when i gave it a lil gas it was okay, double check that sensor man

See the problem is you can't actually check the sensor it self to see if it is clogged you know? SO I have no clue but I am more then 1000% positive it is all hooke dup to thr right nipple and what not seeing as how it has not been disconnected lately at all. Could a diffrent loose vacuum hose cause this dilema?

i had a similar problem last week only it wasnt as major as yours..

i had my car sit for over 2 days, when i started it up the next morning, it ran and idled like shit..i couldnt really tell if it was smoking (other than the normal smoke cause it was cold outside) and my a/f would show dead lean (yes i know the gauge is useless)..all i did was reset the ecu and everything went back to normal..

idk, maybe try that?

how did you reset the ECU?

Okay I've been searching the entire forum for proper procedures for ecu resetting. And you knwo what Forum searches suck and we all know it. I've gone through 20 and not one says hwo to but that they simply did.

take one spark plug out the front rotor and listen for a even rythm as you turn it over (remove egi/fuel pump fuese before doing). repeat again for the rear rotor.

If they all sound even then your compression is more than likely fine.

I would say oil control ring but smoke is too general to determine. Especially weither it's before or after the turbos.

disconnect battery

hold brake for 30 sec

the deed should be done.

but realistically unplug it and let sit for 30 min.

My FD will range anywhere from 20 sec to 4 min of brake pressing to reset that F@!#k thing (i could tell due to the trip not resetting and check engine light)

No luck weith the ECU reset
I'm just gunna have to take off the entire UIM and inspect. I dunno anyone else out there have any bright insight or ideas?

You flooded your car, and that is why your having a tough time starting it, could also explain the smoke you are seeing and backfiring. Take your plugs out and check if they are fouled if so replace them. While the plugs are out deflood your car by cranking it and also listen to the compression to see if it is solid. You could also get a compression tester and test it that way. After that put a couple squirts of atf fluid, and install your plugs. Also as others have mentioned there are two nipples in the back of the intake manifold, look at the vacuum diagram to insure it is plugged in the right one, I too have placed that vacuum hose on a wrong nipple once.

its on the right nipple for sure. I think my MAP sensor is fouled up. Okay well from what I can tell the MAP sensor is jussssst fine. I took the UIM off checked the nipples and everything. They are juuuuuuust fine tooo. My compression sounds juuuuust fine as well. Anyone in the milwaukee region live by Mequon wanna stop by and swap MAP sensors for a second? HAHA. No but seriously....I'm running out of Ideas from what I can tell everything is connected perfectly. and everything is sitting juuuuuuuuuuuuuuuust fine. I am sooooo confused!

No its not flooded either.

Your wallet will be a bit thinner.
 

Ok, after reading many posts like this... there seems to be a fine balance between saving money and saving your sanity. It's times like this where paying somebody else to trouble shoot doesn't seems like such a bad idea after all. I mean, learn what you can by trying to do it yourself. Almost anything you break, they can fix... so go ahead and try to fix it... but when you've reached the limits of your sanity, and you are pulling out your hair, then just fork over the mean green and tell them (best tuner you can find in your area) to fix it and remeber what they say when they tell you what exactly went wrong. Alot more Simple eh? Never said it would be cheap but I'ts definitely the easy way out.

I don't know if there are any good rotary shops near him. Its not like they are everywhere. I know I'd basically never bring my car to a mechanic unless I had been searching on this forum for months with no success or if I had a good rotary shop nearby.

Damn, you're right. I forget how living in Los Angeles can spoil a person into thinking that people all over the country would have as many resources available to them. Doh!

no i will find a way out OF THIS DAMN IT! iF I'VE LOST MY SANITY ALREADY WHATS WRONG WITH JUST BEING INSANE ABOUT IT THEN HUH? i WEILL TEAR IT APART AND FIND THE PROBLEM DAMN IT!!AND i WILL MASTER THIS DAMN CAR. i F i CAN RIP IT APRT ON MY OWN AND THEN PUT IT BACK TOGETHE RON MY OWN AND GET TI TO START WITH HELP FROM THE FORUM. Is it possible that anothe rvacuum hose woudl cause a problem like this?

Yeah you spoiled sack of rotary crap :)

Lets say the two front grren solenoids were to oh say break...but just one of the nipples....Woudl this cause this type of problem????

I can't believe all this bullshit.After three pages of posts nobody has told you that your TPS is not set dorrectly, it's the only thing you've messed with and it's out of frame.
The loud pop was fuel igniting whilst the cars been trying to start with an incorrectly set TPS.
Sort it out lad and stop going mad.

even with the tps out of whack, unless it was broken, I don't see it as a reason the car is not starting.

Sorry bro, I hope everything works out for you.

Oh I guess I never did post it. Yeah it was the dual solenoid in front of the UIM. one of the nipple swas broken off I patched it up and its doing fine now. And my TPS was adjusted each time I took the throttle body off. I always make sure its adjusted properly when I take it off and put it back on.

cool man, sound like it was an easy fix, congratulations!

Good to hear your cars fine now.So it was the wastegate and precontrol solenoid that was screwed up? Wow I wouldnt have thought to look there.