Plz Help Install My Springs..
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Hey guys,
I am attempting to install my new springs on my 94 as we speak....The pic below is the Spring Compressor that I just rented from my local NAPA...This is basically all I need right? I am looking for a good write up hopefully with some pics...I did some searching and found a little of nothing...So I was hoping someone would point me in the right direction... Thanks guys, Shawn |
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Suspension work is very straight forward. Follow Dale's right up and the FSM, and you'll be fine. If you haven't purchased new upper spring mounts, you should strongly consider doing so, as they tend to be pretty much trashed after 60k miles.
Be sure to be patient and have liquid wrench or PB Blaster on hand to get some of those bolts loose. Also, you will need a full alignment after the new springs are installed. |
Originally Posted by Taikutsu
Thanks, Shawn |
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Here is my new problem...( pics below )
Maybe these are the wrong springs? There is no way I can get the bolt to even start unless I compress these new springs... And in the write up it says nothing about compressing the new springs.. Thanks, Shawn |
Originally Posted by rynberg
Suspension work is very straight forward. Follow Dale's right up and the FSM, and you'll be fine. If you haven't purchased new upper spring mounts, you should strongly consider doing so, as they tend to be pretty much trashed after 60k miles.
Be sure to be patient and have liquid wrench or PB Blaster on hand to get some of those bolts loose. Also, you will need a full alignment after the new springs are installed. Thanks for your input... Shawn |
What kind of springs are they? Are you sure you have them in the right spot (i.e. front on the fronts, rears on the rear)?
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Originally Posted by Chunky04
Here is my new problem...( pics below )
Maybe these are the wrong springs? There is no way I can get the bolt to even start unless I compress these new springs... And in the write up it says nothing about compressing the new springs.. Thanks, Shawn I once got a set of lowering springs that were longer than the stock ones, while promising higher spring rates. Just can't happen, unless they're progressive ones, which these were not. Can't believe that the manufacturer actually tried to convince me that those taller springs would both lower the car and stiffen it. They turned out to be dead wrong about their own product. So, it happens... Albert |
Originally Posted by Mahjik
What kind of springs are they? Are you sure you have them in the right spot (i.e. front on the fronts, rears on the rear)?
I think I have them the right way...Small ones in the front...Wider ones in the back...But they are taller than the stock ones...Thats why I was thinking they have got to be the wrong springs...They are supposed to drop the car 2 inches... Thanks, Shawn |
Looks like they (the springs) will be raising your car 2 inches!
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The only possibility for them being OK if they are progressive springs where they compress a lot initially and stiffen up beyond a certain amount of compression.
I can not tell from the pictures but, I see the usual stampings on the blue springs but, can not read them. Those stampings should have the spring rates. Look for a set of numbers in the stampings, indicating ranges, like 350, 450 or anything like that. Anything near and over 300 lbs/inch should be stiffer than stock. In order to lower and FD 2 inches, you'd probably need springs in excess of 500 lbs on the front to prevent the car from bottoming out. I would not recommend such high rates for an FD. Also, 2" is a lot to lower the FD. You'll be running out of shock travel and beat the shocks and yourself to death on bumpy roads. Albert |
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The only think on the sprins what so ever is this....
PFS-SUS-009-SF 09/98 Pics below Thanks, Shawn |
Originally Posted by Chunky04
The only think on the sprins what so ever is this....
PFS-SUS-009-SF 09/98 Pics below Thanks, Shawn Shawn, you can do two things. Wait until Monday and call the manufacturer and ask the questions about rates and progressiveness or, if you have the time and will, take a chance and install the front ones. After that drop the car to see how much it lowers. Looking at the pictures they seem to be progressive as it appears that the top spring coils are closer together than the bottom ones. The proper way to install those would be with the larger distance coils towards to ground and the tighter wound coils towards the tower. I suspect that you have progressives and it may very well work. I also hope that it won't lower you full two inches, as it would be just too much for any quailty road ride. You'll probably need to cut some of the shock bump stop rubber in half to give the shock more travel before bottoming. Good Luck Albert |
those are not Eibach's. Eibach's are part number 5525.140, and would say that on the spring.
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Originally Posted by axr6
Shawn, you can do two things. Wait until Monday and call the manufacturer and ask the questions about rates and progressiveness or, if you have the time and will, take a chance and install the front ones. After that drop the car to see how much it lowers.
Looking at the pictures they seem to be progressive as it appears that the top spring coils are closer together than the bottom ones. The proper way to install those would be with the larger distance coils towards to ground and the tighter wound coils towards the tower. I suspect that you have progressives and it may very well work. I also hope that it won't lower you full two inches, as it would be just too much for any quailty road ride. You'll probably need to cut some of the shock bump stop rubber in half to give the shock more travel before bottoming. Good Luck Albert I really appreciate your input... Shawn |
So I went ahead and compressed the new springs and got them on...But I cant get the top 3 studs to line up... Is there any special trick to doing this?
Thanks, Shawn |
just a lot of patience, u'll need to rotate to get them lined up that means compressing the springs again and rotating the plate with the bolts
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Originally Posted by sevensix
just a lot of patience, u'll need to rotate to get them lined up that means compressing the springs again and rotating the plate with the bolts
Thats what I was affaid of :balls: Oh well...I am gonna slap these fronts on and see what it does...I will keep you guys updated... Thanks, Shawn |
Cant you just turn the top by hand? I've installed the suspension various times and never had a problem.
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Originally Posted by wan
Cant you just turn the top by hand? I've installed the suspension various times and never had a problem.
UPDATE: I never got them installed...I will be taking it to my mechanic and see if he can get the job done... Thanks, Shawn |
I'm taking the other path from everyone else, and saying, these aren't the right springs for our car!
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Originally Posted by Taikutsu
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Linkie no workie. l |
Yah, link don't work
and I wouldn't use those springs on my car, don't force it you know ... |
thread is 2 yrs old im sure he got them to fit by now..
im just a hijacker./. |
does anyone know if all stock FD springs are interchangeable??
Still looking for a write up |
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