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racerrex90 04-12-13 12:00 AM

Passed CA smog today - first try!
 
I just wanted to share this story and reaffirm what others have been saying... you can pass CA smog with mods.

My FD has 127k mi and I was worried about passing CA smog after the car sat for 4 years. It had a full tank of 91 gas and half of that was old. The only work I did was replace 4 vacuum lines that the mice chewed through. It passed the exhaust sniff, visual inspection and tank pressure test on the first try.

Engine has an Apexi PFC, Bonez DP/High-Flo cat, street port, JDM twins and the usual fuel/air/water upgrades. All smog equipment is installed and in working order. The engine was rebuilt at 110k mi so it still had the same plugs after 17K mi. The oil was still clean since it had been changed prior to a smog test about 3 months before the car was stored. The engine was tuned to 14psi by Rotary Evolution about the same time as the oil change. FYI - the CEL is wired to "flash" with other warning lights in case the engine start is observed by a technician.

I drove the car twice for about 15 min within an 1 hour span due to delays with testing. It sat for about 40 min after the last run but it was fairly warm out... high of 81F. I made sure to leave it running when I pulled up for the test.

RPM-----%C02-----%O2----------HC (PPM)--------------------CO (%)--------------
MEAS-----MEAS -----MEAS-----MAX----AVE----MEAS----------MAX----AVE----MEAS
871-------13.7-------1.9--------100----17-------12--------------1.00----0.00---0.00
2439-----10.8-------5.6--------130----12---------1--------------1.00----0.10---0.00

FYI - Today's test results were very close to 2008 results when the car was purposely leaned out.

spiritrmazda 04-12-13 06:30 AM

Congratulations. I just passed too. :)

Evil_Sephiroth 04-12-13 08:31 AM

Congrats.....here my FD have less emission that a 250 Scooter......nobody take emission seriously

racerrex90 04-12-13 02:12 PM

Thx guys.

Evil... how is the rotary scene there? Are there many tuners or do owners do most of their own work?

You live in a nice area. Last Oct, I tried to visit Riomaggiore while staying in Livorno but ran out of time.

shinrars2 04-12-13 02:19 PM

Where in CA are you? Those Max allowable HC's limits are much higher than when I last got my car smogged. I think my max allowable HC's were: 15mph -> 88ppm, 25mph -> 53ppm.

Tem120 04-12-13 02:40 PM

he musta been a roto head. LoL

Congrats man . Im so thankful I dont have any smog tests in FL .

SpooledFD3S 04-12-13 04:24 PM

passing with a PFC? wow

Montego 04-13-13 12:19 AM


Originally Posted by SpooledFD3S (Post 11437414)
passing with a PFC? wow

yep wait a minute... The pfc keeps the engine light off upon turning the ignition key. Given that part of california smog is to make sure that engine light is on, how did you get it to pass?

AzEKnightz 04-13-13 01:35 AM


Originally Posted by Montego (Post 11437713)
yep wait a minute... The pfc keeps the engine light off upon turning the ignition key. Given that part of california smog is to make sure that engine light is on, how did you get it to pass?

his first post


FYI - the CEL is wired to "flash" with other warning lights in case the engine start is observed by a technician.
-AzeKnightz

Evil_Sephiroth 04-13-13 11:19 AM


Originally Posted by racerrex90 (Post 11437303)
Thx guys.

Evil... how is the rotary scene there? Are there many tuners or do owners do most of their own work?

You live in a nice area. Last Oct, I tried to visit Riomaggiore while staying in Livorno but ran out of time.

We are under 60 RX-7 in all italy XD

Lot more RX-8 but there aren't common car.


Tuning? In Italy? Tuning is never born here....you can't change nothing on car.....

Here you need to find a good mechanic (not Mazda) or do all the work by yourself ^^

Montego 04-13-13 12:02 PM

aaahh thanks AzEKnightz... no more forum drunk reading for me... :)

HadaVette 04-13-13 01:12 PM

These results look like an "easy" area of California, one that does not require the dyno test. I live in an area of Calif. that does require the dyno test, and numbers here are tighter than the OP's requirements. I recently passed with a better than average margin, using the stock computer.

p00shy 04-14-13 03:29 AM

100 / 130?!?!?!

dude i had 83 / 55 as my MAX... youre so lucky with those numbers

arghx 04-14-13 08:29 AM

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Guys,

Consider this when you find yourself surprised that this guy passed.

The keys to passing emissions tests is proper Air-fuel-ratio, stable combustion, and good catalytic converter efficiency

It doesn't matter what the limit is. Any of these limits are a joke compared to what modern cars have to meet. You can pass any smog test that any station will provide if you keep this in mind.

https://www.rx7club.com/attachment.p...1&d=1365945310

The big problems a rotary engine has are with CO and HC. What causes high CO? Rich mixture. That's it. How do I decrease CO? For purposes of this discussion, you need to increase the oxygen. What increases the oxygen and effectively reduces CO% ? The airpump, and various oxygenates in the fuel (ethanol, methanol).

I would say "oh just lean it out." You can't lean out the mixture in the rotary combustion chamber enough to pass, unless you have an extremely lax standard to meet. Why can't you lean out the rotary engine? Leaning out causes unstable combustion, which results in misfire and higher HC emissions. The airpump and ACV are there for a reason. If you have to pass a sniffer test, think long and hard about whether you want to get rid of it. The airpump causes a negligble loss of horsepower. You know it has a clutch right? It's a pain in the ass to have under the hood though, I'll give you that.

Finally, about converter efficiency. A catalytic converter needs to be warm to work right, and it needs to be loaded with precious metals. As OP has demonstrated, keeping the engine warm will help do the trick. You're fighting an uphill battle with an aftermarket cat because they have hardly any platinum in them to convert HC. That's partly why a stock cat on any car costs a gazillion dollars compared to an aftermarket one.It's even worse when the cat has some mileage on them, because as mileage and heat accumulates, the efficiency of the converter steadily breaks down.

So just remember... a warmed-up lower mileage cat, a stable idle, and airpump are all you need for the vast majority of engines to pass any standard, even with porting.

racerrex90 04-22-13 06:04 PM


Originally Posted by p00shy (Post 11438621)
100 / 130?!?!?!

dude i had 83 / 55 as my MAX... youre so lucky with those numbers

I think my info is being misread. Just look at the vertical "MEAS" column.

I posted my 2009 (lean) vs. 2013 (normal) tests for comparison....

2008:
RPM-----%C02-----%O2----------HC (PPM)--------------------CO (%)--------------
MEAS-----MEAS -----MEAS-----MAX----AVE----MEAS----------MAX----AVE----MEAS
840-------11.1-------5.3--------100----17---------9--------------1.00----0.00---0.00
2619-------8.7-------8.4--------130----12---------0--------------1.00----0.10---0.00

2013:
RPM-----%C02-----%O2----------HC (PPM)--------------------CO (%)--------------
MEAS-----MEAS -----MEAS-----MAX----AVE----MEAS----------MAX----AVE----MEAS
871-------13.7-------1.9--------100----17-------12--------------1.00----0.00---0.00
2439------10.8-------5.6--------130----12---------1-------------1.00----0.10---0.00

racerrex90 04-22-13 06:05 PM


Originally Posted by shinrars2 (Post 11437310)
Where in CA are you? Those Max allowable HC's limits are much higher than when I last got my car smogged. I think my max allowable HC's were: 15mph -> 88ppm, 25mph -> 53ppm.

NORCAL just above Sac.

racerrex90 04-22-13 06:37 PM


Originally Posted by HadaVette (Post 11438041)
These results look like an "easy" area of California, one that does not require the dyno test. I live in an area of Calif. that does require the dyno test, and numbers here are tighter than the OP's requirements. I recently passed with a better than average margin, using the stock computer.

I don't know if pass/fail values differ but the enhanced (dyno) and basic (sniff) are dependent on county.

Some CA counties don't require smog tests and some do only in certain zip codes. I knew a guy who got by like this with a single turbo, 500hp FD.

Here's a link which allows you to search by ZIP to see program requirements...
Program Area Lookup

basedd_z32tt 04-24-13 12:02 AM

Were you required to go to the new "star test" locations? I had trouble passing my Z on these new locations


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