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dgeesaman 01-14-07 09:51 PM

I've seen it on eBay for a few weeks now.

Dave

JHew84 01-14-07 09:52 PM


Originally Posted by jacobcartmill
anybody know anything else about this? ^^

Yes, and if you read the description on trusts very own website you would know too. They are for an external cooler :bigthumb:. You can even go check the ebay link, it has the same description.

frivolous or not it would still be something to look into for a heavily tracked car, if not for anything other than preventing any trouble. It's not like it costs an enormous amount or anything, more than i'd spend if I never went to the track though.

jacobcartmill 01-14-07 09:58 PM

so where do the fill and drain plugs go?

JHew84 01-14-07 10:13 PM

Well you need to ask yourself this question, what is a fill or drain plug anyway? Well simply put, they are two threaded devices that inhibit the flow of diff. fluid from the diff. to the exterior of the vehicle. Now in all reality two lines to a cooler will in essence do the same exact thing, thread in and keep the fluid inside the differential. Pop the lower line off to drain the fluid, put it back on, pop the upper line off to add the fluid, put it back on.

Most differentials don't even have drain plugs, you pop the cover itself off to drain the fluid. Then you replace the cover and put the new fluid in through a fill hole in the top of the differential case, not the rear cover.

poss 01-14-07 10:21 PM

I would hope they wouldn't make you disconnect the lines to change the oil.

M104-AMG 01-14-07 10:49 PM


Originally Posted by JHew84
<SNIP>
Most differentials don't even have drain plugs, you pop the cover itself off to drain the fluid. Then you replace the cover and put the new fluid in through a fill hole in the top of the differential case, not the rear cover.

Isn't this mostly true only on "live"/not independent axles, where the differential cover is NOT a stressed/mounted part ?

I believe most import (Japanese & European) cars with independent rear-axles have drain plugs.

:-) neil

Jay7 Nyc 01-15-07 12:02 AM

Anyone found out if it helps strengthen the integrity of the rear diff case? Guess i'm calling Greddy today...

Jay7...

JHew84 01-15-07 07:53 AM


Originally Posted by M104-AMG
Isn't this mostly true only on "live"/not independent axles, where the differential cover is NOT a stressed/mounted part ?

I believe most import (Japanese & European) cars with independent rear-axles have drain plugs.

:-) neil

yea, I should have been more specific, you are correct though. I also shouldn't have said most, rather a lot.

JHew84 01-15-07 07:57 AM


Originally Posted by poss
I would hope they wouldn't make you disconnect the lines to change the oil.

what's the difference? lines, plug, your still "disconnecting" something to drain/fill the diff fluid, how else would you propose setting it up so you retain a drain and fill plug and also an external cooler? Not to mention diff fluid isn't something that gets changed every 3K miles, it's not like you'd be taking the lines off all the time.

mirabile 01-15-07 09:38 AM

Still hoping someone has pictures of it on a 7...

DCrosby 01-15-07 11:08 AM

You would "Think" drift and "Race" teams would benefit the most with the differential locking and unlocking in the turnsm, yet from what I've read they either go Kaaz, or some sort of custum rear cradle / diff setup... so it seems like it might do something but not enough over stock for the street people to care, and not enough for the race people to not consider an aftermarket setup due to the weakness of the stock torsen...

FDNewbie 01-15-07 11:57 AM


Originally Posted by DCrosby
You would "Think" drift and "Race" teams would benefit the most with the differential locking and unlocking in the turnsm, yet from what I've read they either go Kaaz, or some sort of custum rear cradle / diff setup... so it seems like it might do something but not enough over stock for the street people to care, and not enough for the race people to not consider an aftermarket setup due to the weakness of the stock torsen...

Hey DCrosby, you happen to know of any examples of these custom rear cradle/diff setups on FDs?

illusionzx 01-15-07 12:09 PM

so, anyone have a picture of it on a rx-7?

DCrosby 01-15-07 09:58 PM

http://www.swapcartech.com/forum/showthread.php?t=884

And Jimlab's Cobra Diff setup are the only ones I'm aware of... I would think they'd work with a stock (Non Ls1) FD as well... I've never had the Privelage to Look at racecar diff setup except for Rotary Power's Drifter... and I remeber them just reinforcing the welds, and adding some solid mounts instead of rubber....

-DC

FDNewbie 01-15-07 10:02 PM

Oh ok...I know those two. I thought you had some info on a custom rear setup from some JDM tuners... Thanks for the info though!

hsitko 01-15-07 10:06 PM

Bah! First off, solid diff mounts make the diff weaker. Allow me to explain. If you have rubber or urethane insulating there is something to allow for a certain amount of deflection for the torsional forces applied to the differential. Henceforth the only benefit of a solid mounted diff is more power application to the ground due to these "absorbers" of torsional force being eliminated. Also, differentials with these lacks of drain plugs are domestic only and a terrible design due to the fact that every time you want to change fluids you have to re seal your diff. The greddy unit is only for added fluid capacity due to most "serious" drift and track cars utilizing clutch type diff's. More fluid means that it takes longer to heat soak and with all of the added cooling fins makes the higher fluid capacity cool off faster. It is an unnecessary upgrade for a street car or a car with the stock differential. Thank you, come again.

--Hank

MADDSLOW 09-24-12 02:34 AM

Bumpin this up.

I had the Greddy diff cover installed on my diff, and I'm going to be ordering oil tomorrow. IIRC the stock diff setup takes 1.2 liters; anybody have any idea what the Greddy diff cover turns that number into?

Ruler_Mark 09-24-12 03:27 AM

5 year bump... dam.

MADDSLOW 09-24-12 03:45 AM


Originally Posted by Ruler_Mark (Post 11232678)
5 year bump... dam.

Need an answer, no point in making a new thread. Up until a few weeks ago, I didn't even know this part existed; maybe it can reveal to other FD owners that its out there.

Thanks for your informative contribution!

mono4lamar 09-24-12 06:15 AM

I would just buy 5 quarts (yes more than overkill) and just return what you don't use. Better safe than sorry.

MADDSLOW 09-24-12 06:56 AM


Originally Posted by mono4lamar (Post 11232715)
I would just buy 5 quarts (yes more than overkill) and just return what you don't use. Better safe than sorry.

I'm going to be using a GL-4 in the tranny and a GL-5 in the diff, so I'm only looking at the diff's capacity as of right now. I'm guessing two quarts of GL-5 plus 4 ounces of Slip Lock *should* be enough, but I was curious to see if anybody had a solid number. I'm ordering Amsoil(which has to be shipped) and would like to keep the purchase as accurate as possible.

Btw, I meant 1.2 quarts, not liters. I have to stop reading all of the overseas threads...

RENESISFD 09-24-12 07:08 AM

^What rear diff do you have?

GoodfellaFD3S 09-24-12 08:04 AM

IIRC my diff w/the Greddy cover took MUCH more fluid then I expected...... I think Fancy Pants Lance had a good idea (5 quarts) :lol:

RENESISFD 09-24-12 08:17 AM

^ That's because in addition to the larger pan on the bottom, the fill plug is much higher.


BTW, MADDSLOW, are you going to be tracking your car at the Carlisi meet?

MADDSLOW 09-24-12 10:27 AM


Originally Posted by RENESISFD (Post 11232731)
^What rear diff do you have?

KAAZ 1.5 way with a 4.44 final drive and the Greddy diff cover.



Originally Posted by RENESISFD (Post 11232768)
^ That's because in addition to the larger pan on the bottom, the fill plug is much higher.


BTW, MADDSLOW, are you going to be tracking your car at the Carlisi meet?

No sir, the diff is literally being put together right now down at JPR Imports in southern NJ(side note: James at JPR is a SUPER cool dude so far). I blew my stock diff at Rotaryfest and had to leave the car there. The new setup(minus the r+p) will have 0 miles on it and needs to be broken in. I'm using the KAAZ fluid for break-in for 500 miles, then swapping to Amsoil. I'll be there with both my Cayenne and FD(guess I have to pay entrance for 2 cars :-( ).

So how many quarts should I ideally put in?

Also, Rich doesn't believe the car will be ready for the track until its been to IRP(jk jk ;-) ).


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